Who was Cain/Sargon

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An absoulutly revealing little book about Sargon aka Cain Who was Cain in history of the Worldhere is a excerpt and link: http://www.biblestudysite.com/sargon%20ebook.htmIt has been said that nothing worth proving can be proved, and certainly this applies to the theory put forward in this little book; but I hope to interest the reader in my attempt to show that the stories told in the first chapters of Genesis harmonize with the researches of modern archaeologists, and provide a key to some otherwise unsolved problems.It has not been easy to marshal the mass of evidence collected here, and a certain amount of reiteration of arguments and facts has been unavoidable; but I dare to think that after a careful and open-minded consideration of these pages some at least of my readers will be convinced that that mysterious personage, the great Babylonian monarch Sargon of Akkad, was none other than the first murderer in history - Cain. By showing that Cain and Sargon were one and the same and thus linking up the sacred and profane histories of the ancient world, I hope to refute the modern teaching that the Bible story of the Garden of Eden is mythical.Up to the present the Babylonian inscriptions and drawings have interested comparatively few people, but those who accept my theory that Sargon of Akkad - who plays so large a part in them - was Cain, will agree that they should be of universal interest; for, granting this, there emerges from the tangled mass of evidence provided by those inscriptions and drawings a vast and sinister figure whose influence upon mankind far eclipses that of any other character in secular history. I shall endeavor to show that to his superhuman knowledge must be attributed the pre-historic civilizations now known to have existed in different parts of the globe, as well as the savage barbarism which accompanied them; and that to him must also be attributed the institution of idolatry - that poisoned chalice "the Golden Cup" of Babylon, which "made all the earth drunken" in olden times and whose dregs have still power to work mischief among men.Although modern scholars seem to ignore the possibility that Cain may have influenced the history of the ancient world, three notable writers at the beginning of the Christian era (St. Jude, Josephus and Philo) suggested that Cain's influence was evil and enduring; while a modern poet reminds us that somewhere in the world, Cain's descendants must have worked out their tragic destiny.whole Book on line http://www.biblestudysite.com/sargon%20ebook.htmhttp://books.google.com/books?id=n4oCfHXv7...result#PPA25,M1
 

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Tom mentioned this book the other day so thought I would bring the link to the front for those interested
 

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Haven't read it yet, but according to the link (I started at the very first page) it appears to me that it has every page in it. (So far)
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Happy Camper for you guys.
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Edit... Yes you have to buy this book... It only stops at page 33.
 

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I bought the book - you can get it on Amazon and sometimes Ebay for a fair price. I like having the margins to write in and all. I read it about a summer ago and learned a lot. I'm planning to go back through it at some point because it's one of those books that you can read a few times and still miss so much.
 

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I see this is an older thread but,.......If you read this book you will find some interesting details about the "Daughters of Aries". There was a segment about three years ago on either the history channel or discover, I forget, that was dealing with the Amazons,....couple that with this book and it puts together some pieces of the puzzle for you. Ironically you can get this book at Amazon,,,:) (or the Chapel)

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I see this is an older thread but,.......If you read this book you will find some interesting details about the "Daughters of Aries". There was a segment about three years ago on either the history channel or discover, I forget, that was dealing with the Amazons,....couple that with this book and it puts together some pieces of the puzzle for you. Ironically you can get this book at Amazon,,,:) (or the Chapel)

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So, they are saying that Cain made it throught the flood? That the Bible is incorrect.View attachment 14
 

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So, they are saying that Cain made it throught the flood? That the Bible is incorrect.[attachment=...]


Yes, Cain and his children made it through the flood because the flood was not in their area of the world. The Scriptures aer not incorrect but a little bit of Hebrew would help you understand it better.

I do not care to read your attachment.
 

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Samuel, you can document it for yourself: 1st Chronicles 2:55..........guess they made it through the flood.


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Samuel, you can document it for yourself: 1st Chronicles 2:55..........guess they made it through the flood.


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I will believe the Bible. No, they didn't make it through the flood; these are the decendants of Noah. God did not lie and the Bible is correct. And, the secular documents of myth are not scripture. Reading some of this stuff and you'd think it came from Disney land.

In today's modern world with people reading false text and bibles like the NIV, LBST to name some they are attempting to corrupt minds through corrupt text. When Satan corrupts minds to the extend that God's Word is removed the days will have to be shortened. I see many are twisting the Gen account. People are attempting to change the 70 AD account of destruction. Seems people are spiritalizing and changing doctrine. Some are trying to place some of the creation prior to the 'beginning'. So many catholic text although old and most not dating past the inception of the catholics in 320 AD where a number were birth from the catholics past that time plus the 50 published in 350 AD. They used corrupt text and unaccepted text that were rejected both by the first century appostles and church but also the Hebrews. Today's new bibles have had a huge influence from Westcott and Hort who also used these corrupt text.

All that junk is: an attempt to discredit the Bible. Think how foolish it is that God would have had Noah build an ark if only to flood that area. How long did it take to build the ark? Stop and think; it is dangerous to get on shaky gound with the Holy Ghost.
The 10 lost tribes of Isreal have been found, documented and accounted for. Some are still using the same rituals and text that disappeared thousands of years ago and they had no outher source to invent such and they have been authenicated by the Jewish community. There is so much myth and lore and junk that people will gobble up in an instant.
 

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1st Chronicles 2:55 is not secular. Look up the word kenite.
As for the flood; Mount Everest is 29,029 feet high, Noahs flood was 15 cubits or 23 feet. I suppose then I should reason that Noah built the Ark at about 29,000 feet? not so!

BTW, the tares in the parable of the sower are the children of the wicked one (devil), they are somehow here in the end to bet harvested by the Angels, or do you not believe what Jesus said here?

I know tons of Israelites that don't know who they are.

In 70 AD, was there not left one stone on another?.......they are still there today.

Before you dig your heels in and make a stand you might want to do a little homework.

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Samuel Pickens

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1st Chronicles 2:55 is not secular. Look up the word kenite.
As for the flood; Mount Everest is 29,029 feet high, Noahs flood was 15 cubits or 23 feet. I suppose then I should reason that Noah built the Ark at about 29,000 feet? not so!

So, You read Greek and Hebrew and are a scholar of those languages? 15 cubits above the mountains. 23 ft would not lift the ark off the ground. I've been in floods over 23' and know of a large number above that. That would be silly to build an ark for 23' of water. Then it settled on top of a mountain that was 23' high. Put animals in the ark when there was no flood.

BTW, the tares in the parable of the sower are the children of the wicked one (devil), they are somehow here in the end to bet harvested by the Angels, or do you not believe what Jesus said here?

They sure are as also they were in the first century and second and so on.

I know tons of Israelites that don't know who they are.

If they don't know who they are, how do you know who they are? Now, that's a feat that I certainly can't understand. Care to explain? 1 ton = 2000#'s, so you are saying you know thousands of Jacob's children that don't know who they are?

In 70 AD, was there not left one stone on another?.......they are still there today.

Today you can view the dome of the rock. It's there in plain sight on a level flat ground with nothing around.

Before you dig your heels in and make a stand you might want to do a little homework.

In my 63 yrs, I've never heard such against the Bible. Before attributing Noah as an idiot and God giving poor instruction, I'd stop and think of what I was saying; that's scary. Please take care of what you say and be careful not to blaspheme.

This is the first time I've ever had to say that to anyone claiming to be a Christian. Please be careful.

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In my 63 yrs, I've never heard such against the Bible. Before attributing Noah as an idiot and God giving poor instruction, I'd stop and think of what I was saying; that's scary. Please take care of what you say and be careful not to blaspheme.

This is the first time I've ever had to say that to anyone claiming to be a Christian. Please be careful.




Watch it buddy, these are your words, not mine! Looks like your winesack is already filled to the brim, I'll let it go at that!

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In my 63 yrs, I've never heard such against the Bible. Before attributing Noah as an idiot and God giving poor instruction, I'd stop and think of what I was saying; that's scary. Please take care of what you say and be careful not to blaspheme.

This is the first time I've ever had to say that to anyone claiming to be a Christian. Please be careful.




Watch it buddy, these are your words, not mine! Looks like your winesack is already filled to the brim, I'll let it go at that!

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I do not know the language you speak nor am I your buddy. I am a Christian. I do not drink beer, wine or liqiour.
Your words appear to say the Bible is wrong and foolish.

You say there was no flood for Noah to build an ark or call in the animals. You say the Bible is wrong! Woe.
 

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I do not know the language you speak nor am I your buddy. I am a Christian. I do not drink beer, wine or liqiour.
Your words appear to say the Bible is wrong and foolish.

You say there was no flood for Noah to build an ark or call in the animals. You say the Bible is wrong! Woe.


Please consider that Noah was instructed.....

Genesis 6:19 And of EVERY LIVING THING OF ALL FLESH, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

7:15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two OF ALL FLESH, wherein is the breath of life.​

Male and female of All Flesh, all races, were on the ark and that would include Cain's descendants. They are an integral part of God's great plan for they are the tares, sown by Satan himself......

Matthew 13:28-30 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.​
 

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Does it not list them as to who they were and how many? Would you also subscribe to the water only being 15 cubit deep? And please do not make personal attacks like Irish and call me a wine bibber or such.

At 23' deep there would have been no reason to build an ark. Beside, he was saying Cain was not on the ark but living where there was no flood.

At my age, I've craddled oats/wheat and know what it is to crawl through fields and remove tares by hand.

There is a Holy Bible just as God said that He would perserve His Word and has down to this day. God does't need me or you to tell someone what it says. It says what it means and means what it says and yes; God got it right and knew what He was saying and didn't or doesn't need help.
 

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Wine sack or bottle filled up is an old christian figure of speech which means you already know all there is to know on a subject, doesn't have anything to do with liquor.

Samuel,
You seem to not be focused on whats being said, I never said there was no Noah's flood, I said at 15 cubits it didn't begin to cover Everest. The word in Genesis earth can equally mean land, country or territory and must be understood within the proper context. Many animals where brought in of the land or territory. The most likely area of land that would have all the qualifications would be the Tarim Basin near the Pamirs plateau. This is an area where the waters did burst from underneath a long time ago.


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Wine is a mock and strong drink raging. You cannot be a deacon or bishop or preacher doing those things.

But, one must need a Bible and be saved. The Holy Ghost will not deny Christ or attribute the Bible to evil.

What you said was that the flood was 23' deep at that area and God was foolish to have Noah build an ark when all you would have to do is walk over to the next hill. You do not believe that Noah sent out birds or any of the Bible. It doesn't work that you can selectively believe what you want and say the rest is wrong. You then say only Noah was punished as the others such as Cain was in an area of no flood waters and just survived as did so many of his relatives. You don't believe such drool nor can you expect anyone else to say the Bible was wrong.

You have the testimony of a drunkard and one that is the enemy of God. You are one of the tares trying to discredit the Work of God and lead people astray through your foolish ramblings.

BTW a wine sack is of old a goat bladder filled with wine and not an old Christian figure of speech. Today it is a synethic sack used to carry wine and people still use it to carry wine in.

Again, I warn you; you are in jeopardy of blasphemey - take this seriously - you are in danger.



Wine sack or bottle filled up is an old christian figure of speech which means you already know all there is to know on a subject, doesn't have anything to do with liquor.

Samuel,
You seem to not be focused on whats being said, I never said there was no Noah's flood, I said at 15 cubits it didn't begin to cover Everest. The word in Genesis earth can equally mean land, country or territory and must be understood within the proper context. Many animals where brought in of the land or territory. The most likely area of land that would have all the qualifications would be the Tarim Basin near the Pamirs plateau. This is an area where the waters did burst from underneath a long time ago.


Irish

PS I drink Scotch!
 
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