A handicapped Jesus

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tim_from_pa

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Here is a question I have based on a dream I had. Would it bother anyone out there if Jesus was born handicapped, say just a mild limp and walked with a simple cane?He could still heal people of their physical illnesses, but when asked as to his own limp would simply reply, "I am still whole in spirit regardless of this deformity. I will still go to the cross for you, and you will be healed."I'll state my answer later.
 

tim_from_pa

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Maybe I should add one more thing. A simple YES or NO answer would suffice without the theological discourse until later after a few had a chance to answer.
 

Jordan

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Yes it would...actually it does bother me if Yahshua was born handicapped...because it does not sound right at all, since He is called the Son of the Highest for a reason.But it doesn't bother me if anybody else was born handicapped since we are human and flawed in this corruptible body.Much love, Jag
 

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Would it bother anyone out there if Jesus was born handicapped, say just a mild limp and walked with a simple cane?
Nope..
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Jesus said:-"The spirit within gives life,the flesh alone is worthless" (John 6:63 )Same with Dr. Stephen Hawking, he's in a wheelchair and has to talk through a box, yet the whole astronomical establishment hangs on his every word.And the legless fighter pilot ace Douglas Bader managed quite well, his squadron colleague Johnnie Johnson said -"We never thought of him as disabled, such was the enormous strength of his character"There's even a guy in England who runs marathons on two artificial legs..And Julius Caesar had epilepsy but never let it hamper him..And John Nash (played by Russell Crowe in 'A Beautiful Mind') had schizophrenia but was a mathematical genius..
 

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Yes, I ditto Jag. Leviticus does allow blemished freewill sacrifices. But not for atonement.
 

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Just to be crystal clear, I'm refering to the qualifications in Leviticus about sacrifical animals.Handicapped people aren't lesser in my eyes.Complying with Tim's wishes, I gave a very limited answer.
 

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I will say it would not bother me. I say this because us humans get stuck on physical appearances too much. When Jesus came, they expected him to be this great warrior or leader who would politically save them. That was definably not his goal. John 20:29
 

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It wouldn't bother me at all. It wouldn't surprise me either. I don't think Jesus cared too much about outward appearances.
 

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Well what tiny description we have of Jesus paints him as sickly. The blemish idea sounds fair to a degree, but the emphasis there wasn't on the physical.No, it would not bother me. He won't be anything like that a second time around.
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"The Lord does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart" (1 Samuel 16:7)
 

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"The Lord does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart" (1 Samuel 16:7)
I agree with you 100% MickinEngland. :amen: and :blessyou:Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
 

RobinD69

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No big deal to me,He is still God in the flesh no matter how He allowed that flesh to be perplexed.But if we are to follow the levitical law which He forfilled,He would have to be without blemish.
 

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Yes. Since the common belief that anyone with a defect was a sinner, He would have been viewed in that manner, and probably no one would have followed Him.
 

tim_from_pa

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Thanks everyone for answering. While the question was posed how you felt about a handicapped Messiah, the strong implication was in accordance with scripture by saying for example that he would still die for our sins and for our healing. Obviously, the scripture has to be the same to prophesy that.Therefore, I would NOT feel comfortable with a Jesus that was handicapped. I would even go as much as to say if that were the case, he'd been a false Messiah. The scripture to justify that is as follows:Exodus 12:51 Corinthians 5:7
 

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I would have to say "No" because we are to have a Lamb perfect and without blemish for sacrafice. But I strongly disagree with those who say a defect is from sin. At least of their own making. Thats just plain foolish incorrect thinking. You can have defect from outside chemicals, medication improper diet of the mother DNA defects from past generations 100 million reasons but a baby is not born with a defect from sin.
 

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My thinking on this is a little different, The Levitical law was a shadow of the things to come. The unblemished lamb, "Perfect lamb" was a symbol of sinlessness. The levitical law was pointing toward Jesus The unblemished lamb was a symbol of Christ, not of physical perfection. Jesus did not have to be like the lamb "physically unblemished" the lamb was trying to look like Jesus pure, without sinI don't think Jesus was physically handicapped, but I am sure he was not physically perfect, he probably was not even what we would call good lookingIsa 53 2 and 3He grew up before him like a tender shoot,and like a root out of dry ground.He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.He was despised and rejected by men,a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.Like one from whom men hide their faceshe was despised, and we esteemed him not.
 

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Yes. Since the common belief that anyone with a defect was a sinner, He would have been viewed in that manner, and probably no one would have followed Him.
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When Jesus referred to a crippled woman he said - "Satan has bound this woman for eighteen years" -Luke 13:16, an interesting verse because it indicates Satan is responsible for much illness and handicap.No doubt Satan would have liked to have handicapped Jesus, but of course he hadn't the power to do that to the Son of God.However, he did hurt Paul in some way, but we don't know what ailment it was -"And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure." - 2 Cor 12:7But that didn't stop Paul from becoming generally respected and admired..
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Incidentally some heathen religions do look down on the handicapped even today, such as Hinduism with its vile caste system-NAT GEOGRAPHIC ARTICLE - http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0306/feature1/(Excerpt) - "Discrimination against India's lowest Hindu castes is technically illegal. But try telling that to the 160 million Untouchables, who face violent reprisals if they forget their place"
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What a differnce to glorious Christianity, which loves beggars - "(God) raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory" -1 Sam 2:8
 

tim_from_pa

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But I strongly disagree with those who say a defect is from sin. At least of their own making.
I was referring to an intrinsic defect, not one made by an outside influence. I would say Jesus was born perfect and lived perfectly healthy, but I realize he had "defects" once he was beaten and hanged, but that still came from the sin of others.The comparison is the sin and trespass offerings of the Hebrews. The trespass offering dealt with specific individual sins. The sin offering was for the condition of sin. So yes, a baby born deformed is not guilty of the trespass, but he has sin because of Adam's nature.Had Adam eaten of that Tree of Life instead, he would have become like God. What if the devil came along and defected him by pouring acid on him? Well, the same thing that happened with Christ--- Adam would have regenerated (like in those Sci-Fi movies perhaps). Jesus died and was regenerated. I seriously believe a lot of our laws of nature, at least relating to life, would have been different without sin, and nobody would have been born defective. Jesus came as the last Adam to restore what should have been.This is no means a critique of handicapped people by any stretch of the imagination. Rather, this has to do with the Savior, who was the new Adam (the way the original was supposed to have been). Had Jesus any intrinsic defect, he would have been an imperfect offspring of Adam's race, and probably not conceived by the Holy Spirit.