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The only referances I can find of the Kenites is that they supported Israel repeatedly.Even though the Strongs makes referance as it being derived from Cain,they would have been wiped out by the flood of Noah.Now of course some may argue that one or two of the wives of Noahs sons was a decendant of Cain,which would most likely be Ham because of the great sin of his with his father and the fact that he produced a sone names Cannan.Cannanites are considered to be of the Kenites,but this stil limits the connection to Cain.Many believe Cain to be the physical son of Satan,therefor making their connection to the Kenites being the seed of Satan.This is impossible considering"And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived and bare Cain,and said,I have gotten a man from the Lord."Yes people can twist and turn the word of God to mean what they want,but there is no evidence,but that which is fabricated by the misuse of synonims in a concordance.Kenites are not our problem,there is no physical line to Satan."Our battle is not with flesh and blood,but with powers and principalities."The connection to Satan all unbelievers have,is the same we believers had before salvation,we chose to rebel against God,and we still do so to this day.
 

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Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 

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I was hoping you were the one to reply. This verse does not specify,Kenites.Dont get me wrong,I am not here to attack,but I have read your serpent seed and it has a few holes in it as does the claims of many about the Kenites being the scribes and pharasees.If we look back far enough we are all Israelites and Kenites by blood.Satan seeks those he may devour,but by promting sich doctrine we do his job for him.God has done what man was unwilling to do,He connected all to His Chosen,all we have to is accept Him or accept Satan.All are capable of accepting God,but not all will because they love themselves more than God just as Satan does.None of them do good unless they get something out of it for themselves,just like Satan.He will come to us as a beacon of light if he thinks he can stop one of us from accepting the truth.
 

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Look at the first post,it has a Bible verse.I can understand your stance,but wouldnt you be taking mans word over Gods by super imposing the serpent seed into your Bible interpritation and for blaming the Kenites and giving them a false geneology.
 

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Denver, I see that passage referring to Jews who "go thru the motions" without any faith in God. You find a similar message in Rom 14:11 (about all people-with no reference to their nationality.) And also in Matthew 7:21-23, about those who profess Christianity without knowing Jesus. It seems like an across the board indictment, for those who don't have a genuine life changing experience thru Jesus.How does this tie to Kenite (who I'll admit I know nothing about?)
 

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I don't go in for genealogy stuff because we're all descended from Adam and Eve aren't we?"Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do" (1 Tim 1:4)"But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain" (Titus 3:9)
 

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"And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived and bare Cain,and said,I have gotten a man from the Lord."
I'm sorry, you did have one verse. If you'll pay an instant's worth of attention to this, you'll notice here who said what. It wasn't God saying a thing about this. Eve said it, so that's how reliable she is. This is the same man and woman that lied to God. Simply because something is in the Bible spoken by man doesn't mean it's true. That fully depends upon who said it. If God said it, it's true obviously, but God didn't say it here.
Denver, I see that passage referring to Jews who "go thru the motions" without any faith in God.
Perhaps so, but I think even that is as much of a stretch. The book of Revelation deals with Christians and it's awkward that this phrase would be found here dealing with the Jews, particularly given the context of both mentions of these fake Jews right by the churches.They key here is that the word is Ioudaios which is the specific word for Jewish as a nationality.
The only referances I can find of the Kenites is that they supported Israel repeatedly.
I suppose you missed Numbers then.Numbers 24:21
And he looked on the Kenites, and took up his parable, and said, Strong is thy dwellingplace, and thou puttest thy nest in a rock. Nevertheless the Kenite shall be wasted, until Asshur shall carry thee away captive.
 

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Your good at word play arent you Denver.OH Eve was a liar so why should we listen to her,Abreaham was aliar and a coward but he is considered the father of our faith.Eve did not lie,she was beguiled by Satan and once she knew the truth,she was afraid and hid from God along with her husband Adam who chose to join her rather than be obedient to God.So you are saying that if I do not share Bible verses,I am somehow wrong.Are you going to accuse me of lying,because I am just a man and men are flawed.You choose one race to blame everything on but where is the connection to Cain,there is none but there is one to Cannan.Come on Denver you are misleading people with these beliefs.
 

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If you'll pay an instant's worth of attention to this, you'll notice here who said what. It wasn't God saying a thing about this. Eve said it, so that's how reliable she is. This is the same man and woman that lied to God. Simply because something is in the Bible spoken by man doesn't mean it's true. That fully depends upon who said it. If God said it, it's true obviously, but God didn't say it here.
Gen 4:1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.Denver, please correct me if I am wrong. It is believed by most, that Genesis was written my Moses, inspired by the Holy Spirit. Then, the first part of this verse, And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain is written by Moses inspired by the Holy Spirit. We are not told Eve spoke this, we are told Eve only said I have gotten a man from the Lord, So even if we reject Eve's words we still need to deal with Moses words inspired by the Holy Spirit, that, Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare CainIf I am misreading this I would appreciate your help, thanks
 

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John 8:3 "And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto Him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,"While Jesus was teaching the scribes and the Pharisees, this same band of religious leaders that were plotting to kill Jesus, brought a woman taken in adultery to Christ. They were about to put on a side show, while humiliating this woman, and making her a public disgrace.John 8:4 "They say unto Him, "Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act."John 8:5 "Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest Thou?"It appears that these scribes and Pharisees have Jesus boxed in, as Jesus was a teacher of the law. When you set yourself up as a teacher and you are confronted with the very law you are teaching, you had better know that law. These people are trying to entrap Jesus with His own teaching. They are setting the trap.John 8:37 "I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill Me, because My word hath no place in you."These Jews, many of them Kenites, started to believe in Jesus because of the miracles He preformed, but in their heart they will still seek to kill Jesus. Jesus is looking ahead, and He knows how they will leave their convictions of this moment. They will do this because they limit of their belief only to the physical. They just can not see the spiritual truths of Jesus Word, because their spiritual eyes are still blind.Jesus is agreeing with these Jews that they are of Abraham's seed, but their spiritual eyes are still not open. Jesus is telling them that His Word just hasn't taken root in your heart (mind). It is all just lip service.John 8:40 "But now ye seek to kill Me, a Man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham."This is probably the simplest lesson the Christ ever taught, that if you cannot see the fruit of Christ in a person, by their words and their works, then they are not of Christ. If you cannot see the fruits of Abraham [the law] in the works of one claiming to be of Abraham, friend, they are not of Abraham. Their works were seeking to murder Jesus, and that is not a fruit of Abraham.Here in this next set of verses, Jesus is talking directly to the Kenites.John 8:41 "Ye do the deeds of your father." Then said they to Him, "We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God."When Jesus said that these Kenites did the work of their father, they knew exactly that Jesus was drawing attention to both Cain, and Satan. The deeds of both were murder, and Jesus has already called their attention to the fact that He knew they were plotting to murder Him.John 8:42 "Jesus said unto them, "If God were your Father, ye would love Me: for I proceeded forth and came from God: neither came I of My self, but He sent Me."The Scriptures foretold of Jesus coming, and it was not the word of Jesus alone. In Daniel 9:24-26 it even states the year that the Messiah would be "cut off" [crucified]. To the day on palm Sunday, and to the details of the crucifixion. This is where the trouble comes, because the Kenites did know that the Messiah would come, and they were expecting Him. Daniel identified to the year when Messiah would show, and that is why these Kenites were laying in wait.John 8:43 "Why do ye not understand My speech? even because ye cannot hear My word."Jesus is now going to identify exactly who these Kenites are.John 8:44 "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him, When he spaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."Do you know who the devil is? The devil is Satan, and he goes by many names. In Revelation 12:9; "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world;" In the Garden of Eden Satan was called the "old serpent, and the tree of good and evil"Jesus is telling these Kenites that there father is the devil, who is also called Satan, the dragon, or any of his other names that Satan has because of the roles he has played. Jesus is telling these Kenites that the lust, and murder in your heart is inborn from your father Satan, and you are driven in your spirit to do murder because Satan is your father.This is why Jesus could not be speaking to the brethren of the house of Judah, for their lineage is not of Satan, this is what the plan of God is all about. Keeping the pure lineage that the coming Messiah would be born from. That is why Noah was saved from the flood, as we are told in Genesis 6:9 "THESE ARE THE GENERATIONS OF NOAH; Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations,..." In the Hebrew text the word for "perfect" is "tamim", which means "without blemish, as to breed or pedigree". Noah's blood line was pure.Jesus is making it simple, now who was the murderer from the beginning? Most small children could answer that, it was Cain. Genesis 4:8; "And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, And slew him." Cain was a murderer from, or in the beginning.Jesus is telling it just as it is, The "Kenites" are the children [offspring by lineage] of the devil, through Cain. Jesus identified both Satan, and Cain as being their father. So why is it any secret that they would try to murder Christ, they are just like their fathers Cain and Satan.I Chronicles 2:55; "And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez [Jerusalem]; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.The lineage of Rechab is not of Israel, and those men standing before Jesus here are the offspring of the Rechab not Jacob or Judah. The duties of the scribes and the priests had been taken over in Babylon, some five centuries prior to Christ birth.This then gets into what happened in the Garden of Eden between Eve and Satan. For what came out of that sexual relationship union was a child, and not apple seeds and apples. The leaves were fig leaves, and not apple tree leaves, and Eve covered her private parts, and not a mask to cover her mouth. As Paul said, Satan wholly seduced Eve in the garden, and from that union came Cain.Genesis 3:15 "And I [God] will put enmity between thee [Satan] and the woman [Eve]. and between thy seed [the Kenites] and her Seed [Jesus Christ]; It [Christ] shall bruise thy [Satan's] head, and thou [Satan] shalt bruise His [Christ's] heel."Most learned "men of God" acknowledge that Genesis 3:15 is talking about the death of Jesus Christ, when He was nailed to the cross for our sins. The recognize that "seed" is referring to the children of the woman "Eve", yet somehow they just want to spiritualize everything else that happened in the Garden of Eden between Eve and the two men [Satan and Adam]. The "seed" in the Hebrew is called "Zirmah", and in the Greek it is "sperma". In the English we call it "sperm", and Strong's Hebrew Dictionary # 2233; "Posterity, carnally, child, fruitful". Friend, it simply can not be any clearer. The seed of Satan's "posterity" are the Kenites through Cain, while Adam's posterity is in Christ who is of the pure bloodline through Seth.In Strong's Hebrew dictionary, numbered to the King James Bible; # 7014, and the word is "Kenite": "Qayan, Kah'-yin; The name of the first child, of an oriental tribe:-Cain, Kenite." Now lets take the name "Kenites" [the family], # 7017, "Qeyniy, kay-nee', a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:-Kenite."The books of Ezra and Nehemiah detail how the duties of the Levitical priests had been taken over by these Kenites [Nethinims-foreigners] from top to bottom, and their plot existed then to kill Nemehiah. It was not sucessful, for Nemehiah finally figured out who was setting the trap for Him.Matthew 13:38; "The field is the world; and the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;"Jesus is talking about this world age of the flesh. Don't spiritualize this away. We are talking about people here, the children of God's kingdom, and the children of the wicked one [Satan]. The tares are the Kenites, the children of the wicked one.Matthew 13:39; "The enemy that soweth them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels."When you check out what the devil soweth in Strong's Greek dictionary, it is "sperma"; the devil who is Satan deposited male sperma into mother Eve. If this is hard to take and understand that an angel, which Satan is, had sperm; go back in Genesis 6 where many angels violated God's orders and these angels [sons of God] "came to earth to take the daughters of men to be their wives." From those marriages came some form of life that the translators called "children" [Nephilim]. How do you think that those women became pregnant if the sperm was not there?The first two sons of Eve, Cain and Abel were twins, but not of the same father. Genesis 4:2 "And she again bare his brother Abel,..." "Again" in the Hebrew text is "yacaph", in the Strong's Hebrew Dictionary, # 3254; "(to continue to do a thing)". If Eve just gave birth to Cain, and she continues on giving birth, then she is having twins. Jesus told it rightly in John 8:44 where the lust and murder in the hearts of these Kenites came from.Matthew 13:40 "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world."Matthew 13:41 "The son of man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things the offend, and them which do iniquity:"Matthew 13:42 "And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."Matthew 13:43 "Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."This chapter of John is not the only place in God's Word that Christ taught us of these Kenites, and made it this simple. So as we discussed above, Cain was the offspring of Satan, not Adam, and Cain's offspring are called "Kenites", and we are warned to be aware of them throughout the word of God.Are we to destroy them? Definitely not, but they are part of all the Parables, especially dealing with the end times. Truth will set you free, and we are to become wiser then the serpent, and his people. Then you will not have the problems that you would otherwise have, because you have power over them. The spiritual battle is real, and we have the victory. The Kenites are part of God's overall plan, leave them alone.
 

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Plenty of word play and assumptions,but where is the factual connaction between the Kenites and the Scribes and Pharasees?There is nothing but assumptions and word games.If what you say is true of Cain,his seed was wiped out during the flood,or are you going to say God wasnt powerful enough to wipe out Cains lineage.Remember Noah was without blemish and his family would have to be to believe what he proclaimed.If not God would have made sure the evil ones amongst them would have chose not to enter the Ark.Canaan is the beginning of the Kenites,he was the next one to turn from God and follow the lust of the world.The problem with the Scribes and Pharasees is not one of bloodlines but one of lust for power.Look throughout the OT,the hebrews constantly turned from God while maintaining His written word.They constantly sought to pervert His word but were afraid to actually change it so they wrote their own commentaries and followed them while Gods word collected dust on a shelf.Look through the history of the Hebrews from the beginning,many different levels of idolotry while possessing Gods word but not following it.Satan is even afraid to Change Gods word,but he feels free to duplicate and pervert it while claiming it to be true.Satan even went so far as to try and have man insert his perversions into the Bible with all the gnostic works as well as the apocrypha.Look at the Talmund,they were to afraid of Gods wrath to insert it into the Bible.They knew Gods word and they had it,but they followed the commentaries and controled the people with these perverse commentaries.
 

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"For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes [see Lawyers] and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:20 RSV)."He answered them, "And why do you transgress the Commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? For God commanded, 'Honor your father and your mother,' and, 'He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die.' But you say, 'If any one tells his father or his mother, What you would have gained from me is given to God, he need not honor his father.' So, for the sake of your tradition, you have made void the Word of God." (Matthew 15:3-6 RSV) [see The Ten Commandments and The Ten Commandments Now?]."How is it that you fail to perceive that I did not speak about bread? Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees." (Matthew 16:11-12 RSV)(Note: Just as yeast causes bread to rise, yeast was sometimes used as a symbol of sinful pride which made people haughty and "puffed up.")"The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice. They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by men; for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues, and salutations in the market places, and being called rabbi by men. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven." (Matthew 23:2-9 RSV)(Note: A perhaps somewhat surprising statement - the Pharisees were correct according to their limited perspective, and were to be obeyed by the Jews under their authority. But, they were not to be emulated in their way of life - they were Hypocrites.)"But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither enter yourselves, nor allow those who would enter to go in." (Matthew 23:13 RSV)."Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!" (Matthew 23:23-24) ..................This is from a bible study on the history of Sadducees and Pharisees on thread titled such http://www.christianityboard.com/pharisees...ht=Sadducee%27sSecondly if you think Noah and his family were the only ones to survive the flood why dont you explain the races to me. Noah and his family were the only ADAMIC(bloodline of Christ) souls that survived not the only souls I would think someone who is so quick to accuse others of twisting the word would know it better, but then again you have to go back to hebrew to understand that the word creature means soul
 

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Plenty of word play and assumptions,but where is the factual connaction between the Kenites and the Scribes and Pharasees?There is nothing but assumptions and word games.If what you say is true of Cain,his seed was wiped out during the flood,or are you going to say God wasnt powerful enough to wipe out Cains lineage.Remember Noah was without blemish and his family would have to be to believe what he proclaimed.If not God would have made sure the evil ones amongst them would have chose not to enter the Ark.Canaan is the beginning of the Kenites,he was the next one to turn from God and follow the lust of the world.The problem with the Scribes and Pharasees is not one of bloodlines but one of lust for power.Look throughout the OT,the hebrews constantly turned from God while maintaining His written word.They constantly sought to pervert His word but were afraid to actually change it so they wrote their own commentaries and followed them while Gods word collected dust on a shelf.Look through the history of the Hebrews from the beginning,many different levels of idolotry while possessing Gods word but not following it.Satan is even afraid to Change Gods word,but he feels free to duplicate and pervert it while claiming it to be true.Satan even went so far as to try and have man insert his perversions into the Bible with all the gnostic works as well as the apocrypha.Look at the Talmund,they were to afraid of Gods wrath to insert it into the Bible.They knew Gods word and they had it,but they followed the commentaries and controled the people with these perverse commentaries.
Genesis 6:19 - And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.Genesis 7:15 - And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.Genesis 7:23 - And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.Genesis 8:7 - And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.Much love, JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
 

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Now show me where in the Bible it states any other races survived.It doesnt,but it does give explinations for the changing of the races.Try the tower of Babel and the seperation of the nations by confusig the languages.Did you ever stop to think that by confusing the languages,God also confused the races.Come on if you are going to twist word at least do it with logic.
 

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Your good at word play arent you Denver.OH Eve was a liar so why should we listen to her,Abreaham was aliar and a coward but he is considered the father of our faith.Eve did not lie,she was beguiled by Satan and once she knew the truth,she was afraid and hid from God along with her husband Adam who chose to join her rather than be obedient to God.
With all due respect, you've made quite a few assumptions about what I say. I haven't said a word about Abraham here, so I really don't know where you are drawing on this from?I'm not so sure why Eve cannot lie? She just finished listening to the serpent and eating the fruit God specifically said not so, but she didn't lie? Who's making assumptions here?
So you are saying that if I do not share Bible verses,I am somehow wrong.Are you going to accuse me of lying,because I am just a man and men are flawed.
I am simply saying that I see an awful lot of Christians that tell you how it is in their minds and rarely ever provide any sort of Biblical references. If you feel that you can back it up Scripturally, go right ahead.
You choose one race to blame everything on but where is the connection to Cain,there is none but there is one to Cannan.Come on Denver you are misleading people with these beliefs.
I'd say the very same thing about you. Kenite means son of Cain, not sons of Canaan.
If I am misreading this I would appreciate your help, thanks
It is. Here is the simple point I am trying to make. Satan's words are quoted in the Bible. Boy, if you believe those, you're in trouble. Job's "friends" are quoted for some 20 odd chapters in the book that bares his name, and they have nothing but lies calling for Job to curse God and die, telling him that he must have sinned and caused all of his misfortune. Again, I am not disavowing anything with the Word, but it does quote liars, and you've got to be careful who you listen to. So many people quote Job all the time and oftentimes its one of his ratchet-jaw friends telling him the wrong thing to do.
 

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Now show me where in the Bible it states any other races survived.It doesnt,but it does give explinations for the changing of the races.Try the tower of Babel and the seperation of the nations by confusig the languages.Did you ever stop to think that by confusing the languages,God also confused the races.Come on if you are going to twist word at least do it with logic.
To quote Jag hereGenesis 6:19 - And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.Genesis 7:15 - And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.Where does it say just animals???Second talk about twisting the word where does it say Language means race???If I start speaking Chinese am I going to turn into one??So I see you can read what you want into the word but rather than go to the Hebrew and learn what it really says you will take your version not backed by anything except someone told you so. So who is seeing what isnt there???
 

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I brough Abraham into the discussion because he is recorded as being a liar and a coward.I used him as an example of whether or not we should trust those who have been caught in lies.Eve was the mother of all mankind,and Abraham was the father of the Hebrew faith.Moses recorded the lives of all these people by the leading of the Holy Spirit,which has been previously pointed out.If Moses had seen that Eve had sex with satan,he would have said so,he would not have used code to disquise what the true sin was.Also if other people groups survived,Moses would not have declared that only 8 people survived the flood.These are assumptions made by modern man to make himself seem like he has a deeper understanding of Gods true purpose.I am sorry,I am not attacking you or anyone else.I merely seek to insure all are thinking clearly and not believing fables produced by the evil one to seperate us from the Lord.
 

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Well you obviouly choose to believe men rather than God. As I have said before this is the danger of just understanding surface text. and not paying attention to what you read. and just to set you straight Hebrew is a race not a faith. And if you could read the verse it says Adamic souls not souls(people) if I say the Smith family got on the boat does that mean they were the only ones on the boat or the only Smith family members. And if you believe Eve ate an apple why did they not cover their mouths with fig leaves?? But then again this is a deeper teaching for those with the wisdom to understand Gods plan. I dont mean that to be a insult its just fact not all will see everything. everyone is at a different level of understanding.
 

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To quote Jag hereGenesis 6:19 - And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.Genesis 7:15 - And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.Where does it say just animals???Second talk about twisting the word where does it say Language means race???If I start speaking Chinese am I going to turn into one??So I see you can read what you want into the word but rather than go to the Hebrew and learn what it really says you will take your version not backed by anything except someone told you so. So who is seeing what isnt there???
Genesis 9:18-19 The sons of Noah who came out of the Ark were Shem,Ham and Japheth.(Ham was the father of Canaan.)These were the three sons of Noah,and from them came the people who were scattered over the earth.Look no twisting,but apparently there are the only 8 people.Now if Moses knew that there were other peoples on the Ark,wouldnt you think he would have recorded it rather than make himself a liar and call other people groups creatures?Look we are dealing with God,if he confounded the languages,dont you think He had the power to confound the races,or when confounding the languages He seperated those languages by likeness.If you will look back at the names of the three sons of Noah,you will find the three basic races that can be easily mixed to make more by the time of Babel.Hey like the sarcasim,it suites your interpritation.:cool: