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We've made a very important decision on our part, we believe, to include both Catholics and Eastern Orthodox here in the community as brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. (And rightfully so!)

Unfortunately, I am seeing a trend where some cannot handle this -- and this is an issue I see on both sides of the aisle, in terms of the Catholic and Protestant divide.

I expect a certain level of maturity here when someone disagrees with you. This means that you try your hardest not to insult them, and that you tread very carefully in how you treat a brother or sister who may (many times is) still redeemed by Jesus even though they may have some issues that they disagree with you on.

We are going to begin putting the hammer down on our denominational rule again:


Denominational Posts – Excessive posts either attempting to either push a single denomination (or group) or attacking another denomination are included in this rule.
Source: http://www.christianityboard.com/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

If you cannot handle this simple requirement, then I kindly suggest that you move on. Truth does not require insults to ensure its effectiveness.

Thanks, ya'll.
 

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Only on CB can people get mean and hateful about people getting mean and hateful. :huh:
 

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I don't think the purpose of a certain Catholic joining recently is for the purpose of edification. just sayin...
 

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I am happy about the intervention
 

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You know, I've been a member here for a few months, trying to get a feel for things. I enjoyed reading some of the discussions, only participated in a few, but the most troubling thing (and what has often held me back from participating more) is the level of invective and personal insult tolerated by this board. I have always appreciated the difficulties that Protestants have with Catholicism and never minded them too much as a result, especially in forums where real discussion or debate can take place and not just mudslinging. That seems to seldom be the case here. As a Catholic, I was troubled to see Catholics speaking rather rudely and abusively, as well as non-Catholics.

Though that was troubling as a trend, it was not enough to really make me consider not being a part of these boards, and I appreciated this thread that appeared to make it clear to all participants that this should not be the case. However, for the last week I have watched the member Domenic run amuck, unchecked-- a full week after Hammerstone posted that this kind of sniping back-and-forth would be cracked down on. He has created whole threads with the clearly-stated premise of proving Catholicism satanic, announcing that he will refuse any longer to respond to any Catholics but still continuing to attack them and their faith as the strongest kind of evil. He is not censured nor banned despite repeated such attacks. Catholics are not innocent of blame here in some of the rude exchanges, but Domenic's unmitigated attacks are beyond any others that I have seen, Catholic or otherwise.

This is intolerable to me as a Catholic and makes it impossible for me to believe that Catholics are truly welcome here-- not because of their faith, but because of a lack of accountability and administration. As a former admin on another nondenominational Christian board, I realize it is impossible to be everywhere at once or to catch everything the moment it occurs, but with the boldness of Domenic's posts for a length of time after it is stated by admins to be a matter of priority to keep tabs on it, I cannot justify what good I might be able to take from this board (or bring to it) in light of the harm I am taking from it. I hope this will be a matter of discussion for the admins here and that they will be able to do what they can to fulfill the promises they have made.

You will be in my prayers and I thank you for the time that you welcomed me to spend here. May we all be faithful to the Gospel and to Christ Himself, according to His will for all of us!

-in Christ, Bosco
 
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Axehead

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What is the best way to ruin a non-Catholic board and give it a reputation of not being friendly to Catholics?

Think about it.
 

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If Catholics are not w elcome here ,Then they should rename this Protesant board,and not Christianity board,and then all of us Catholics would gladly leave.
 

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It's a valid criticism to say that we have not been consistent enough in applying this rule, and that is my fault. My purposes were not nefarious in leaving certain individuals around, but there were behind the scenes actions taken to no avail. For any and all consternation that this caused, I apologize.

We're still learning how to handle things, and maintaining a balance in this arena has proven to be the most difficult thing I've ever done. I am fully open to suggestions and ideas on how to do a better job. I do hope that none of you will leave us!
 

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Pelaides said:
If Catholics are not w elcome here ,Then they should rename this Protesant board,and not Christianity board,and then all of us Catholics would gladly leave.
I think that has been the objective, hasn't it?

This is not called the Mormon board, Catholic board or Jehovah Witness board. Why can't it be called the Christianity Board? I believe it can be. Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses are not complaining or hanging around and agitatiing.
 

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I think that has been the objective, hasn't it?

This is not called the Mormon board, Catholic board or Jehovah Witness board. Why can't it be called the Christianity Board? I believe it can be. Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses are not complaining or hanging around and agitatiing.
The objective of who?you,or the people in charge of this website?Maybe we should name this Axehead board.
 

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As a newcomer to this site, I have not been privy to the mud-slinging that, apparently, has gone on between Catholics and Protestants on this site - although one person did claim that the Muslims were going to invade America and crucify all of the priests. I had to laugh at that nonsense for how ridiculous that was.
It is pretty darn ridiculous that nonsense like this goes on in the 21st Century. Wars were fought for centuries in Europe over this petty nonsense. It was the main reason why the Founders of this great nation made sure that their new country would avoid this.They made sure to keep religion out of their new government, for that very reason.
Yet here in the 21st Century, on an anonymous talking site, some people like to "flex their muscles" just to see what they can get away with - who they can insult and see what the reaction is. Grow Up. You're supposed to be "Christian" adults. Jesus Christ doesn't give a rat's behind if you are Catholic or Protestant - regardless of what you may have been taught since childhood. Insulting each other because of one's religious affiliation is childish and VERY un-Christian. It's insulting to God that petty crap like this would go on.

Moderators - If people are calling each other names put a stop to it - with warnings followed by "timeouts" if that doesn't work. You have "Guests" reading your site. Do you want them to read the posts just to see that people call each other names? I don't think that you do. You want them to join this site and NOT be scared off.
A few minutes ago, I read a person's "Shout" - I'm sure you know who I am referring to - in which he claimed that he was one of the 2 witnesses prophecized to come. Since it is highly doubtful that he was speaking the truth, you might want to take a harsh approach to this statement of his. Otherwise, what is to stop me from claiming that I am God, Satan, the other witness, the antichrist, the false prophet, or even Santa Claus (SHHHH - Don't tell your kids)?


Thank You - for allowing me to express my opinion on this matter.
 

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HammerStone said:
We've made a very important decision on our part, we believe, to include both Catholics and Eastern Orthodox here in the community as brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. (And rightfully so!)
I don't perceive God as looking at organizational religions as a basis for discerning who is and who isn't a brother.

Though it is the sites owners own decision, if they so choose to discern who is and isn't a christian using this guide line, good luck with the reformation "unity" movement. It's rather like mixing oil and water, so long as you keep stirring the mix, "going around and around in a circle" you achieve an apparent blend, but as soon as you leave the mixer 'moderator" out of the equation the two elements separate into two distinct different liquides.

I suppose the bottom line for me is, if your personal faith can be shaken by others because it is rooted in an institution, just where is your faith?
Doesn't it lie in the institution of your choice? Churches as we know them today are IMO indefensible sources of faith or salvation.
As to not be offensive to Hammerstone. I understand the need to be none offensive or rude, but it is the offended in secular court that sets the standard for what is and isn't offensive, if we adopt such a position it may be that the one that suffers is the truth.
 
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Honestly, i can see why people are upset on this board - there have always been people here who believe that Catholic doctrine is not Christian and a few have been rude, but if Catholic members take an accurate assessment we have had a whole crop of rude and angry and i will just say it - professionally trained apologetist Catholics posting on this board. it is not right and needs to stop. The Vatican has agreed not to evangelize Christians outside the Church - we should be following this practice.

However, i support civil Catholic opinion and post my own opinions about the difference that I see in the two sections of Christianity. When i fail to be civil, i am rightfully notified and warned.

Lastly, i admittedly have been frustrated with attacks from nontrinatarian people who have been attacking my church with flamming posts, but it is always helpful to know that admin does not share their opinions. IMO that is the real difference about this board and others I have posted on. Thanks.
 

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I for one would not like to be a moderator. I believe that many have no idea of teh position they have put themselves into. For instance, if one makes a posts and that word is truth, than someone complains and a mod bans that person, than they will both be held accountable for what they have done. When one clainms to speak or " moderate" for God than one has to accept the huge responsibility and teh consequences, teh same as any priest, pastor evangelist, prohpet who speaks on behalf of God. I really do sometimes think that christians should sit down and ponder how God would feel if they kepyt calling Him a liar, all teh 1000 other things they say about Him inderctly. Its not about denominations, its about truth. light and "life". or lie "darkness" and death. One must choose who there God is.

I really hope a lot of prayer and answers are sought before banning. As for this forum its one of two i frequent, I wonder how many Jesus would be allowed into, I can imagine if teh internet was avliable in His day, teh pharrisees would of banned Him

In all his Love
 

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I think that Catholics are most welcome. I have no trouble with a brother being a catholic. What is bothersome is the superior attitude of those who bash other Christians and then call any defense...anti-Catholic.

It's a straw-man from the get-go. Radicalism is ugly in all it's forms. Radicalism seeks to destroy....not edify.

Being kind and open minded must be the norm. But one who provokes another person or persons by belittling them has no place on a friendly discussion board.
 
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I think everyone is welcome here. What happens is that people take it personally when the Word of truth is held up next to their beliefs or idols they cherish. We have the witness of Scripture and the Spirit and should be able to resolve many things, however the children of the flesh will always persecute the children of the spirit and that is seen from Genesis to Revelation.

Unity at the expense of truth is not unity, it is only conformity and conformity is certainly not Unity and not what we should strive for. No one agrees on everything yet one cannot expect others to swallow blatantly anti-biblical and anti-christ theses as if truth is only a luxury.

It would be best if we all recognized when someone was purposely being provocative and dropping "bombs" and just ignore them and move on.
 

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wheather a person is good or bad is no concern of mine evil life in the end can hurt no one but itself .
if one EXAMINE's closly it is evil doctrine that is the worst thing of all.. for it is evil doctrine which can lead a host of people to hell.

Martin Luther
 

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Pelaides said:
The objective of who?you,or the people in charge of this website?Maybe we should name this Axehead board.
Here is my point:

These boards exist with the "Catholic" moniker for a reason.
Catholic Answers - forums.catholic.com
Catholic Community Forum - catholicforum.com
Defenders of the Catholic Faith - forums.avemariaradio.net
Catholic Online - catholic.org
Being Catholic - fisheaters.com

So yes, this site can be called Christianityboard.com. I don't see anything wrong with it. Christianityboard is not a Catholic site, but catholics are welcome to post.