He sets himself up

Guy - Do you have someone in mind?
Do you have a particular nationality that this person will be?
Would you be willing to give us more specific details?

guysmith said:

The prophet Daniel states that, an individual known as “he,” will “set up” an “abomination that causes desolation.”

Daniel 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. NIV

The way Daniel 9:27 reads is as if there are two different individuals. But Paul clarifies that the AofD “sets himself up” in God’s temple.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. NIV

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith

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Guysmith,

2 Thessalonians 2:6-12
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God will set up the antichrist by causing everone who heard the truth of the gospel of Jesus and rejected Jesus to believe the lie of antichrist!

America and the other "Christian" nations will believe the lie of antichrist after the rapture of the church.

Shalom, guysmith.

guysmith said:

The prophet Daniel states that, an individual known as “he,” will “set up” an “abomination that causes desolation.”

Daniel 9:27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. NIV

The way Daniel 9:27 reads is as if there are two different individuals. But Paul clarifies that the AofD “sets himself up” in God’s temple.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. NIV

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith

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Guy, the "he" in 2 Thessalonians 2:4, the "man of sin" or the "lawless one" or the "man who separates himself from Torah," is NOT the same one as the "he" in Dani'el 9:27. The "he" in Dani'el 9:27 refers back to the "Messiah" in verse 26. It's really quite simple; the "he" cannot refer to the "prince that shall come" because it is part of a PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE, "the people OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME!" (That works the same in Hebrew: Although there is no "prepositional phrase" per se, there IS a noun CONSTRUCT STATE in which two nouns are put back to back. The first noun ALWAYS is used as a part of speech in the sentence; the second noun is always given the preposition "of." Example: Beiyt Elohiym is translated as "House (Beiyt) of-God (Elohiym)."

It always amazes me how the two passages are tied together by so many people on such little "proof!" All that most have is the THEORY! A HUMAN idea! A GUESS! A theological opinion that the two passages are talking about the same person!

I met & prophesied to Osama Ben Laden, on September 26th, 2012....& also met a companion of his, a murderous witch/prophet he travels with...& also witnessed huge pillars of fire that he called down.....swilrling on open ground for hours.

1260 days after this date, is March 9th, 2016....a day of Solar Eclipse that some believe to be the time when the Anti-Christ reveals himself....It is possible that the 7 year period has begun, & Bin Laden is revealing himself to many Muslim leaders consolidating his power. If this is true, then things will be speeding up very quickly.

The Temple of God & "The Holy place" may be one in the same, the rock that Abraham offered Isaac up on, & the rock that the Temple was built upon at the threshing floor of Ornan, presently "The Muslim Dome of the Rock", where the Ark of the Covenant once rested.

My questions are, "What are the sacrifices ?? that he will put an end to??...there are no Jewish or Muslim ritual sacrifices or "offering" today to my knowledge.

Daniel 9:27 ......He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation.

I'm Sorry - but Osama Bin Laden did NOT call down huge pillars of fire.
I'm Sorry - but the 7 year period has NOT begun and Osama Bin Laden is dead.
WHO believes that the antichrist reveals himself on March 9, 2016?
I'm Sorry - but this sounds like nonsense.

No, Osama Bin Laden did not call down pillars of fire...but his false prophet Sorcerer did....I witnessed them 3 times in North Africa & I did meet Bib Laden eye to eye & face to face twice....& prophesied to him also.

"WHO believes that the antichrist reveals himself on March 9, 2016?"

I said it is possible...it is 1260 days after I believe he was first pulled from the dead from the sea......September 26th, 2012....when I entered Eritrea, N. Africa.....IF his resurrection from the dead marks the 7 year period......I'm really not sure.,,,but maybe.

Retrobyter said:

Shalom, guysmith.


Guy, the "he" in 2 Thessalonians 2:4, the "man of sin" or the "lawless one" or the "man who separates himself from Torah," is NOT the same one as the "he" in Dani'el 9:27. The "he" in Dani'el 9:27 refers back to the "Messiah" in verse 26. It's really quite simple; the "he" cannot refer to the "prince that shall come" because it is part of a PREPOSITIONAL PHRASE, "the people OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME!" (That works the same in Hebrew: Although there is no "prepositional phrase" per se, there IS a noun CONSTRUCT STATE in which two nouns are put back to back. The first noun ALWAYS is used as a part of speech in the sentence; the second noun is always given the preposition "of." Example: Beiyt Elohiym is translated as "House (Beiyt) of-God (Elohiym)."

It always amazes me how the two passages are tied together by so many people on such little "proof!" All that most have is the THEORY! A HUMAN idea! A GUESS! A theological opinion that the two passages are talking about the same person!

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Retrobyter,

Are you saing that Jesus causes the abomination of desolation? It is the furure Prince from Roman Empire ancestery that becomes the antichrist and breaks the covenant.

Daniel 9:26-27
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.







To All,


Revelation 17:17
17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

In 2 Thessalonians 6-12 God caused every person on earth that heard the truth of the gospel of Jesus and rejected Jesus to believe the lie of antichrist.

In the middle of the tribulation God will cause the ten kings that have come frome the Roman Empire and devoured the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.

God will use the antichrist to do hia will. God sets up the antichrist!

Brothertom - I HIGHLY doubt that you met Osama Bin Laden because he was hiding in Pakistan and NOT in North Africa - and if you had gotten to within 100 yards of him, you would have had your head cut off.
NO ONE called fire down from the sky.

Since Jesus said that no one knows the day or the time, setting dates is NOT somerthing that we should be doing. I'm Sorry if I sound harsh but your whole story is outlandish.

I have arrived at the conclusion there are a few people here copying and pasting data ( sometimes scripture sometimes prophecy ) they think pertain to the topic and their prophecies from places they may have paid to join and therefore seldom or never write in their own words. They do not have the courage to inform us the true origin of what they post. Others may have had visions and/or dreams of a prophetic nature but have certainly failed to test whether their information came from God or came from Satan.

Brothertom... not all your visions/prophecies came from God. Had you met Bin Laden and gave prophecy why did you not kill him? Why did you not know what he was going to do? AND had I sen a person calling fire down from the sky I ABSOLUTELY would NOT have left without KNOWING that person's NAME and much more about him as well. All these visions and prophecies from God and you are afraid what man may do had you killed Bin :Laden? - quit!

Research further.. the Jews are doing "morning sacrifices" but this is not the Daily Sacrifice that is yet to start. The Daily Sacrifice will commence after the Altar is built and will be carried out by the high Rabbi. These morning sacrifices are done by nearly anyone.

Why was the thread about me stopped? I was just getting started - I have no fear from scrutiny, in fact - I encourage it. My only conclusion then is the moderator that removed it was scared I would prove myself valid. OH WELL, I really did not join this forum to discuss me anyway. providing people the ability to receive a prophet's reward was just a small part - though a big gift.

DAQ you are one I am fairly ( almost purely ) certain cannot think for yourself and post the works of others in an attempt to be relevant. You twisted posts provide the proof of this action.

Terry,

Would you please post links giving credible evidence that the altar will be rebuilt or is in the process of being rebuilt and temple sacrifices are being reinstituted? Please no "Christian" prophecies, just pure facts.

We do know, don't we that God is not obligated to forgive Israel if they re-institute the Temple Sacrifice?

Heb_10:8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

What is the "Holy Place" today, in the New Testament dispensation? Is it not the Body of Christ? Isn't the Body of Christ the Temple of the Living God?

Thank you,
Axehead

Shalom, guysmith.

guysmith said:

Hello Retrobyter,



I have my reservations. If Christ is the "he" in Daniel 9:27, as you suggest, then replacing the "he" with Christ reads as:

27 Christ will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ Christ will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple Christ will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Are you suggesting that Christ will/did set up the AofD?

In Yehoshua,
Guy Smith

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I like what you did with the substitutions, but you used an opinion-slanted version for the substitution. Let's try a version we can trust:


Daniel 9:27
27 And Christ shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week Christ shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations Christ shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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See how the version makes the difference? Now, let's see the fulfillment:


2 Chronicles 13:5
5 Ought ye not to know that the Lord God of Israel gave the kingdom over Israel to David for ever, even to him and to his sons by a covenant of salt?
KJV

Psalm 89:3-4
3 I have made a covenant with my chosen, I have sworn unto David my servant,
4 Thy seed will I establish for ever, and build up thy throne to all generations. Selah.
KJV

John 7:42
42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
KJV

Galatians 3:16
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
KJV

Psalm 18:50
50 Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore.
KJV

Psalm 89:20-37
20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed (m'shachtiyv, the verb form of Mashiach = Messiah) him:
21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him.
22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the son of wickedness afflict him.
23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him.
24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.
25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers.
26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation.
27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.
28 My mercy will I keep for him for evermore, and my covenant shall stand fast with him.
29 His seed also will I make to endure for ever, and his throne as the days of heaven.
30 If his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments;
31 If they break my statutes, and keep not my commandments;
32 Then will I visit their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with stripes.
33 Nevertheless my lovingkindness (Hebrew: checed = covenant-keeping-faithfulness) will I not utterly take from him, nor suffer my faithfulness to fail.
34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.
35 Once have I sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.
36 His seed shall endure forever, and his throne as the sun before me.
37 It shall be established for ever as the moon, and as a faithful witness in heaven. Selah.
KJV

Psalm 2:6-9
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
KJV

Matthew 3:13-17
13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
KJV

Now, look back at David's reign:


2 Samuel 2:11
11 And the time that David was king in Hebron over the house of Judah was seven years and six months.
KJV

2 Samuel 5:4-5
4 David was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years.
5 In Hebron he reigned over Judah seven years and six months: and in Jerusalem he reigned thirty and three years over all Israel and Judah.
KJV


1 Kings 2:11
11 And the days that David reigned over Israel were forty years: seven years reigned he in Hebron, and thirty and three years reigned he in Jerusalem.
KJV

Now, look at Yeshua`:


Matthew 1:1-2:6
1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas (Hebrew: Y'hudah = Judah) and his brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;
6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;
8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;
9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;
10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;
11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;
14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;
15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;
16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ (Greek: Christos, a translation of Hebrew: Mashiach = Messiah).
17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
2:1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? (Greek: Basileus toon Ioudaioon, a translation of Hebrew: Melekh haY'hudiym = King of those of Y'hudah or Judah, the Jews) for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship (bow the knee to) him.
3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda (Greek: Iouda = Hebrew: Y'hudah = Judah), art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.
KJV

Matthew 27:11
11 And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
KJV

Matthew 27:27-31
27 Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
28 And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
29 And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
30 And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
31 And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
KJV

Matthew 27:35-37
35 And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
36 And sitting down they watched him there;
37 And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
KJV

Matthew 27:41-43
41 Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said,
42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.
43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
KJV

Mark 15:1-2
1 And straightway in the morning the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council, and bound Jesus, and carried him away, and delivered him to Pilate.
2 And Pilate asked him, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answering said unto him, Thou sayest it.
KJV

Mark 15:9-20
9 But Pilate answered them, saying, Will ye that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
10 For he knew that the chief priests had delivered him for envy.
11 But the chief priests moved the people, that he should rather release Barabbas unto them.
12 And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
13 And they cried out again, Crucify him.
14 Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.
15 And so Pilate, willing to content the people, released Barabbas unto them, and delivered Jesus, when he had scourged him, to be crucified.
16 And the soldiers led him away into the hall, called Praetorium; and they call together the whole band.
17 And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head,
18 And began to salute him, Hail, King of the Jews!
19 And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him.
20 And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him.
KJV

Mark 15:26
26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS.
KJV

Luke 23:1-3
1 And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.
2 And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.
3 And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
KJV

Luke 23:35-42
35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.
36 And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,
37 And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.
38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
KJV

John 18:33-40
33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?
34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?
35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world (Greek: kosmos = world-system): if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
39 But ye have a custom, that I should release unto you one at the passover: will ye therefore that I release unto you the King of the Jews?
40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
KJV

John 19:1-15
1 Then Pilate therefore took Jesus, and scourged him.
2 And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe,
3 And said, Hail, King of the Jews! and they smote him with their hands.
4 Pilate therefore went forth again, and saith unto them, Behold, I bring him forth to you, that ye may know that I find no fault in him.
5 Then came Jesus forth, wearing the crown of thorns, and the purple robe. And Pilate saith unto them, Behold the man!
6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
8 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he was the more afraid;
9 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
10 Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
12 And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.
13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.
14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priest answered, We have no king but Caesar.
KJV

John 19:19-22
19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS.
20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city: and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin.
21 Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews.
22 Pilate answered, What I have written I have written.
KJV

Do you see the recurring theme? You should! This was PRECISELY what He was conveying to the Jews throughout His "ministry" (actually, His offer of the Kingdom by His offer of Himself as the King). The Jews or sons of Y'hudah were HIS tribesmen! They were to accept Him as King FIRST, and like David, His forefather, He would reign over them for seven years before He reigned over the rest of Isra'el. Then, also like David, after 40 years total, He would move on to reigning over more and more tributary countries until His Kingdom grew like the stone that grew into a mountain and filled the earth in Dani'el 2!

THAT is the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27a.

The rest is much simpler:

Part 27b, namely, "and in the midst of the week He shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,"


Hebrews 10:1-22
1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
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Finally, the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27c, namely, "and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate," we just have to consider the last words He spoke to the Jews who rejected Him before He shared the Olivet Discourse:


Matthew 23:1-39
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
KJV

Do you see now how the Messiah fulfills Daniel 9:27? It's really quite neat how it all dovetails together.

terry said:

DAQ you are one I am fairly ( almost purely ) certain cannot think for yourself and post the works of others in an attempt to be relevant. You twisted posts provide the proof of this action.

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Dear brother, if you only knew the half of it! What you suggest really is not even possible, (not taught by men anymore; did my time). How is it going with your city and sanctuary? I hope you have not completely shachath-corrupted it, O Ephraim. Have you learned to say Shibboleth? It's down to the Jordan for you if not. Hardness in part is happened to Israel, (not the Jews) until the fullness of the Heathen be come in, ("seven nations greater and mightier than thou"). In the same manner shall the all Israel of YHWH be saved, as it is written: "There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: for this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins." However, it is clear in your case that the fullness of the seven heathen nations has not yet come in. Beware of that Girgashite warrior seventh king Legion of the desert dwellers of Kittim, (when he arrives the time is short; five months).

And if you do indeed overcome in your mo`ed only then shall you truly understand the mercy and grace of God.

Brothertom said:

I met & prophesied to Osama Ben Laden, on September 26th, 2012....& also met a companion of his, a murderous witch/prophet he travels with...& also witnessed huge pillars of fire that he called down.....swilrling on open ground for hours.

1260 days after this date, is March 9th, 2016....a day of Solar Eclipse that some believe to be the time when the Anti-Christ reveals himself....It is possible that the 7 year period has begun, & Bin Laden is revealing himself to many Muslim leaders consolidating his power. If this is true, then things will be speeding up very quickly.

The Temple of God & "The Holy place" may be one in the same, the rock that Abraham offered Isaac up on, & the rock that the Temple was built upon at the threshing floor of Ornan, presently "The Muslim Dome of the Rock", where the Ark of the Covenant once rested.

My questions are, "What are the sacrifices ?? that he will put an end to??...there are no Jewish or Muslim ritual sacrifices or "offering" today to my knowledge.

Daniel 9:27 ......He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation.

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Need to get back to reality, Osama is dead, killed in a raid, buried at sea. He is NOT the coming Antichrist. No one on earth is going to bow in false worship to a flesh man thinking he is God (that's a hint I'm dropping you).

Brothertom said:

I met & prophesied to Osama Ben Laden, on September 26th, 2012....& also met a companion of his, a murderous witch/prophet he travels with...& also witnessed huge pillars of fire that he called down.....swilrling on open ground for hours.

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So ... when did you learn to speak Arabic .... ????

Shalom, guysmith.

I should have added to Post #14 above spelling out that Matthew 23:2-37 are the "overspreading of abominations" and verse 38 is Yeshua` making them "desolate", thus fulfilling Dani'el 9:27c.

Shalom, Eric.

Eric E Stahl said:

Retrobyter,

Are you saing that Jesus causes the abomination of desolation? It is the furure Prince from Roman Empire ancestery that becomes the antichrist and breaks the covenant.

Daniel 9:26-27
26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.







To All,


Revelation 17:17
17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

In 2 Thessalonians 6-12 God caused every person on earth that heard the truth of the gospel of Jesus and rejected Jesus to believe the lie of antichrist.

In the middle of the tribulation God will cause the ten kings that have come frome the Roman Empire and devoured the whole earth to give their power to the antichrist.

God will use the antichrist to do hia will. God sets up the antichrist!

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What I said to guysmith above is your answer, too. Don't get stuck in the teaching that Dani'el (or rather, Gabri'el) was talking about this "antichrist" character! He wasn't! The "prince that shall come" (from an English-language point of view) is the object of a prepositional phrase that doesn't take direct part in the main clause of the sentence! The whole prepositional phrase may, but not a portion of it! The three "he"s in verse 27 do NOT refer to the "prince that shall come" but to the "Messiah" of verse 26!

The "prince that shall come" (from an English-language point of view) is the object of a prepositional phrase that doesn't take direct part in the main clause of the sentence! The whole prepositional phrase may, but not a portion of it! The three "he"s in verse 27 do NOT refer to the "prince that shall come" but to the "Messiah" of verse 26!

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I agree. It makes no sense to me that there would be a 2000 year gap between verse 26 and 27.


Bro. Tom said,

I met & prophesied to Osama Ben Laden, on September 26th, 2012....& also met a companion of his, a murderous witch/prophet he travels with...& also witnessed huge pillars of fire that he called down.....swilrling on open ground for hours.

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What ya been smokin' Bro?

You must think you're a special one huh?

Shalom, BLACK SHEEP.

BLACK SHEEP said:

I agree. It makes no sense to me that there would be a 2000 year gap between verse 26 and 27.
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Ri-i-ight... but there IS a gap. It's in the desolation itself! Yeshua` (Jesus) put it there in Matthew 23:38, and according to Him, it will continue until the Jews can say, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the LORD," or in Hebrew, "Baruwkh haba' b'shem YHWH." This translates to "Wecome, Comer in the authority of YHWH."

The reason it is almost 2000 years long is the STUBBORNNESS of the Jews to welcome Yeshua` as their Messiah! Furthermore, that has given a HUGE amount of time for the Gentiles to be grafted into the Olive Tree or God's Kingdom. In fact, it's been SO MUCH time that many Gentile believers think that the Gentile believers (whom they identify as the "Church") have somehow REPLACED Isra'el as the recipients of the promises. (They have NOT replaced them.)