The USA in the end times

Ephraim and Manasseh are America and Britain in prophecy Judah is current day Israel All Israel or sometimes called house of Israel/Jacob are all 12 tribes or basically the Christian Nations

Yes,Rev.18 talks about new york city predominantly.Jeremiah 50 and 51 talk about americas plight.By the time the beast comes to full power,america is no longer a super power.See daniel 7:4 and Rev.13:2.Jeremiah 51:46 talks about violence in the land,which appears to be america.Following a rumor from the previous year,which I believe to be an internal revolution or a false flag attack,then america has violence in the land.I believe this will happen in the next few yrs(maybe 2-3 yrs)

Man, There Is Nothing Really About The Usa In Scriptures. It Is Like Trying To See Trend Where There Is None; Trying To Associate Something With Oneself When Such A Connection Does Not Exist.We Can All Read Into Bible Passages And Associate Ourselves With Them. Would You Be Asking This Question If America Was Not Great? I Have My Doubt

I've heard preachings saying that the "great Babylon" of Revelation is America. Others say it is the whole world that lives in sin. Who knows...

Well, as Babylon at the tower was a people that says.. "Let us make a name for ourselves..." ... so is USA when it says, "We the People..."Coincidence? I think not.

In Revelation it describes 1/3 of the grasses, trees and oceans being destroyed. It not every third piece of grass and every third tree worldwide. It concentrated in one area. I believe that the destruction of Babylon is the event that will take out 1/3 of the planet. This destruction will cause the earth to wobble. And it is this destruction that will put dust and debris into the atmosphere causing the sun to be blackened and the moon to turn blood red.Isaiah 24: 20The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 23Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.I believe Babylon to be the countries that make up NAFTA. But it really won’t matter which country it is because it will be the end of the world as we know it, 3 ½ days before the advent of Christ.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith

I think it has something to do with Mythology. The moon was struck by an arrow of Apollo (Apollo 11).

Hi rant!
Pariah there was no tower at babylon ,Nimrod but that was before bab.
I understand, but the place was called Babylon because of what happened at the tower.

You all seem to have covered every theory out there I will try to explain this again The 10 tribes went over the caucus MT. into Scotland Ireland and to Britain. It is where the stone of Jacobs pillow fame rests under the throne these ten tribes spread across Europe with Ephraim and Manassa as Britain and eventually to USA. In Scripture prophecy we are stilled called this. The tribe of Judah along with some Levi and Benjamites who had been in the south became known as Judah these are todays Jews of Israel. When prophecy refers to the whole house of Israel it is referring to all 12 tribes us included this is history not speculationhttp://www.christianityboard.com/jacobs-pi...t=jacobs+pillar

(kriss;23968)
You all seem to have covered every theory out there
Someone pointed something out to me the other day...one of those odd occurrences. Jer-USA-lem Funny how both Jerusalem and the USA will be involved in the battles of end times.....Armageddon and Hamangog.Of course, the above doesn't convert to Hebrew and keep the same meaning but nevertheless....it is odd.........Whirlwind

(setfree;20585)
I heard a preacher He has a tape out America at the end of the age. He mentioned three words that refered to America. Chittim in Daniel 11:29-30, means powerful lands from the west. Young lions in Ezekiel 38:1-23 two wings of a great eagle Revelation 12:13-14 He brought out the history of the dollar. Ben Franklin and George Washington fought over the seal of U.S. on the dollar bill. Franklin wanted children of Israel crossing the Red Sea. Washington said U.S. was not Israel. It was settled with An eagle with wings spread with 5 pointed (U.S.Flag) star within a 6 pointed star (Israel-star of David). The eagle claws holding the olive branch on the left (peace) and arrows (fight for freedom)on the right. Eagle is upholding Israel by her wings.The eagle holds up the star of David (Israel). Isaiah 18:7 mentions land the rivers divide. This is referred to United States.Has anyone heard this?
Hi Setfree,Yes, I have. Did you know that the Library of Congress website has some of this information posted online now regarding "Religion and the Founding of the American Republic"?http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel04.htmlScroll down to see the "Proposed Great Seal of the United States"http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/vc006418.jpgAlso other Bible verses:Zechariah 2:4-5 "And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited [as] towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her."Isaiah 2:2 "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."Then of course, there is the number "13" associated with the founding of America, representing the 13 tribes of Israel if you include the 2 half tribes of Ephraim and Manessah. The eagle holds 13 arrows, there are 13 olives on the olive branch. There are 13 stars and stripes, behind. There are 13 letters in the motto, "E Pluribus Unum" (Out of many, one). There are 13 colonies. 13 stars and stripes on our flag, etc., etc.Very interesting things! JerUSAlem!Kim

Then of course, there is the number "13" associated with the founding of America, representing the 13 tribes of Israel if you include the 2 half tribes of Ephraim and Manessah. The eagle holds 13 arrows, there are 13 olives on the olive branch. There are 13 stars and stripes, behind. There are 13 letters in the motto, "E Pluribus Unum" (Out of many, one). There are 13 colonies. 13 stars and stripes on our flag, etc., etc.
13 is also the number of apostasy. Revelation 13 confirms this. Thirteen is also a number of a woman, or harlot, a falling away or apostasy. The 13 Stars are the Twelve Tribes of Israel under the morning Star Yeshua HaMashiach(Yeshua Christ).Makes sense, because America concerning God is very lukewarm and has become very stale and has truly fallen into apostasy.

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Very interesting things! JerUSAlem!
Very interesting things! JeruSALEM, Oregon! . that's where I live.I always believed that the one world system will be the UN, and the other unions including NAU or NAFTA. The one world system could be "Coexist" where everyone has 1 god. Where all of the different religions pray to the same god.

(Jonous;23872)
I've heard preachings saying that the "great Babylon" of Revelation is America. Others say it is the whole world that lives in sin. Who knows...
Hi Jonous,I personally believe America is being "controlled" by the "Mystery Babylon" described in the book of Revelation, but it is NOT Mystery Babylon. The rise of the Papacy of Rome fits the description better than America does.Remember what the Apostle John, on the Isle of Patmos wrote in the first chapter of the book of Revelation:Rev 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John:"Which means prophecy has been unfolding from that time to the present. So we cannot forget our history and everything that happened with Rome and later the Roman Church shortly after John made this prophecy. Remember, "Mystery Babylon" isn't just about "one country", but a religious, economic, and political system that encompasses the whole world in the last days. Kim

It is arrogant to believe that America has to be mentioned somewhere in the end times.It is arrogant to believe that only the End times can bring America down. It does not have to be the end times for us to be in trouble. It is safe to assume that as other nations have sat on the pincale of world power that they too wondered where their nation was mentioned in the Book. One can assume that the end time world order would be Rome while others would have told you that Rome would never allow such a leader to come to power. To assume that America is safe in it's current position as long as the end times have yet to come about is false security.

the ten so called lost tribes The northern tribes of Israel went over the Caucasus Mtinto Scotland eventually to Britain and then crossed the ocean into AMERICA and became the Christian nations we are the ten lost tribes America and Britain are Ephraim and Manassa in prophecy Jews today are the tribe of Judah

This is from another post but its Imformation I need to back up my theory about America.ok now that thats over with there has been an interesting side conversation going on on where is the biblival evidence that the church is the antichrist. This may shock all of you but i'm going to have to agree. The catholic church will( because they are not right now) the 1st beast told of in the scriptures. Now would I ever dare to say this about my church if there is no biblical proof. No, So i'm going to share the biblical proof right now. I'm basing this on Daniel not revelation.In the book of Daniel they have 13 qualifications of the antichrist.( I can go deeper on all this if there is any confusion)Horns equal kingdoms 1.The antichrist must rise out of the 4th beast. ( daniel 7 verse 7)the 4th beast is interprented as rome.As soon as the kingdom in Rome broke up ( back in the ancient past) the roman catholic catholic church gained power2.Now the second qualification is that it rises out of the ten horns ( chapter 7 verse 8), the ten horns were on the 4th beast or rome. now when rome broke up it broke up into 10 different countries.3. The third qualification is that antichrist arises after the ten horns. ( chapter 7 verse 24)The pope at time that assumes his position of power five years after rome arises.4. The fourth qualification is that the antichrist is different than the first horns.( daniel 7, 24) This is also true as the roman catholic church at that time was a political super power. But also unlike the other countries a Religous superpower.5. the fifth it becomes more stout (powerful) than the others.( 7, 20) Which the catholic church definatley has as it has lasted longer and still has influence today.6. the sixth is that it uproots three kingdoms( 7, 20) now we have to go into when the catholic church first gained power When it did, it took over three of the countries which rome had split into. ( today known as the goths, the vandals and the Burgundians.)7. the seventh is that the antichrist will speak great things against the most high.( 7, 25) The catholic church does not currently do this. But during the reformation the pope did claim to be God on earth. It has happpened before and it will happen again8.The most disturbing. The antichrist will make war against the saints. ( 7, 25) The catholic as wacca pointed out has " tortured and imprisoned other christians" in the 1700s. That is making war against the saints. and that is just a preview of what will happen when the church become corrupt again. 9.the 9th he'll change times and laws.(7,25) The catholic church has done this . You would not be familiar with many examples unless you are a part of the catholic church. One example which you would all be familar with is the changing of the sabbath. 10. The antichrist shall rule for a time time and half a time ( 7, 25) Prophetically this means 1260 years. But sure enough after that 1260 years the roman church lost its territory and its power. ( it has obviously gained it back since then.)11. The antichrist will devour the whole earth. ( 7, 23) This obviously hasn't happened yet it is one of the few things were waiting to be fulfilled.The catholic church is the biggest religon in the world. It leads morally in the world. But it does not rule politically12. The antichrist shall exist until the end of time-( 7,22) I can't obviously tell you for sure that the catholic church will exist until the end of days but I don't see how it cannot. 13. The last. The antichrists rule will be taken away by Jesus Christ at the end of time. and then the true catholics and the other christian churched will become one. Alleluia. unless the churches come together before, which is one of my highest hopes.How do we know when the catholic church turns into the beast. by the prophecies hasn't fulfilled yet. When it rules the entire world and before that in the new testament it says. "Who is a liar? Who else but the person who rejects Jesus as the Messiah? The person who rejects the Father and the Son is an antichrist." ( 1 john 2,22) When the catholic church denies Jesus came in the flesh that is when they stop being my church and a church of God and become the antichrist. Expect to also see the elevation of Mary above Jesus ( which is getting closer to happening each day) and the doctrine that the eucharist only represents Jesus, but the catholics still continue to worship it. I am not saying this to insult the catholic church. I believe the church, the first church is a holy church right now. But it has set itself against God before and it will set itself against him again. This is my beloved church who God has called me to work for ( or work against depending on the situation) this revelation has depressed me deeply. ok now that thats out of the way My american theory. ( warning anybody who's extremely patriotic will not like this.) I personally believe that America is the second beast/ the false prophet. Lets look at the evidenceNow in revelation 13:3 it says " and I saw one of the firsts beasts heads, as it were wounded to deathand revelation 13:12-13 says And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 1. the papal ( the soon to be antichrist) gained its power by the eastern Roman army in 538 A.D. 1260 years later it lost its power. 1260 years later happens to be 1798, the time right after America won the revolutionary war and became a nation. Now Revaelation says that the first beast shall arise after the first beast is injured, and the only country which arised in that time period is the United States. Could it be a coincidence, I don't think so. now just like the catholic church the USA is not the second beast yet, but we are seeing many sighns in the media,our movies, our music, our culture, and our goverment. your brother in christ Ryan Fitz

just to back up my theoryhttp://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=56544