Apostasy and delusion

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PetriFB

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Before coming of Jesus, desertion must occur. It is one of those issues the Bible says will precede the coming of Jesus, and one distinctive sign of the last days. For example, Paul referred to it: - (2 Thess 2:3) Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. - (1 Tim 4:1) The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/Lastdays3
 

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My challenge isn't seeing the condition we, the church collective, are in. But rather, knowing what to do about it. I anticipate things will get worse. I cringe to say that, because my heart's desire is that things get better. And I'm not a doom & gloom type of person.I sometimes feel discouraged & there is the temptation to throw my hands up in the air. But we are called to be faithful, regardless of whatever else is happening around us. So today, this day, I strive to obey God & show loving concern to others. Because the call on our lives is to be light to the world & salt to hinder corruption.Has anyone else found ways to be particularly effective?
 

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We hope for better and will do work of the Lord also in the final days. But we can't change prophecies of the Bible, which says that unfortunately in the last days will happen big apostasy of the church ...Our message is Jesus Christ, but we can't close our eyes from the truth of the Bible and its all message ....
 

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I find myself reflecting on the life of Jeremiah. In many ways, his situation parallels ours.
 

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The entire N.T. from the very beginning to end ( when it discussess this issue ) either warns the church not to marry the world system, or teaches about how the church will do so. And the church married itself to the world system and it's blasphemous ICONS and such very early on ( so that apart from what percentage are saved by the free gift of salvation thru grace thru faith, which no one knows actual number, it seems it has always been a much smaller number or remnant, which has actualy been able to be obedient as to not fall into the temptations of the world system afterwards ) It seems that once one recieves God thru faith, when they truly do so, they are then hit hard with an internal/and external system of testing ( /and of their own weaknesses and lack of true commitment -temptation ) And so for testing of their faith and character, if they indeed give themselves over to their own weaknesses, so as to even have all their works burned up, but to still be saved even thru the fire, at least Praise God, they are still saved!!!!!!!!!!!!! But this applies to them being saved in the 1st place, which many are, but still exhibit their own weakness, and destruction of their own potential good works, and thus produced nothing but ash -But thank God were saved just the same. But we as the church as a whole pride ourselves on the traditions and accolades of our collectively produced "ash," instead of truth and obiedience, and True Love For God. And thus we never abandon our ICONS, and gnostic inner child and spirit sex, and other blasphemous and demonic teachings of the world system, and church married to the very same world system, and we wonder why when we embrace -not the Domminion of God, but a domminion theology of our ever increasing "Pile Of Ash," as proof of how well we are doing, when we are actualy falling farther and farther away from the truth!!!!!!!!!!! And thus to become as a child, in childlike faith, has instead become a demonic inner child worship, which is reflected as our ICONS ( not permitted by the bible by the way ), of "Baby" and "Child," angels, instead of the warrior angels Gabriel and Michael as are depicted in the pages of the bible!!!! And The hidden Goddess religion nation known as the United States Of America, and it's center of power ( The District of the Goddess "Columbia" ), which tires to export it's sodomic Laodicea power of universal and ubiquitous tollerence for all opinions are equal, and equaly as valid, unless of cource one challenges gays, and evolution, and goddess worship etc.., in the name of the "Exclusivity" of biblical doctrine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because the U.S.A. was founded secretly for the day of accendancy of the universal and ubiiquitous power of the goddess religion -and her "all apostacy," must be worshiped equaly, or we all will not become the god's of equality. And I point to the old hidden occult national bank system currency designs ( before new occult symbolism of the federal bank system ) which included topless goddesses riding upon the backs of eagles and wielding lightning itself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The "all seeing eye" found on one denomination of continental script that I know of, and on paintings and artwork ascociated with the french revolution as well as the new federal currency of the Mason FDR, are part of this illuminati scheme of waiting for the church to never grow strong in truth and faith, but rather keep falling away from the true God, To the false god of the goddess, and the inner child, and Democracy!!!!!!!!!!! Democracy, is secular, rather than tollerance based on truth, and extended guest status from within A Theocratic Republic for the sake of argument, and Democracy serves the goddess of "Liberty," and make no mistake about it, but "Liberty," is the secret pagan goddess religion of the illuminati of america, And Democracy=Laodicea=The Laity rules, under the power of the goddess of cource, and the chuch has to willingly surrender to this demonic power, which we do indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Our Republic was supposed to be a Theocratic and democratic republic of faith, which went to far even in it's origin to extend tollerence to non faith, and the seperate issue of non recogintion of religion ( meaning a particular Christian denomination, would not be allowed to exclude others by becomming "Official," like the Church of England ), has now been used by the goddess of liberty and democracy, to try and destroy the entire world, And only a Theocratic recovery within Christianity, and abandonment of the evil of a universal inner child/goddess religion, can save this nation And the goddess inner child religion -which even makes use of such evils as racism, to pretend it is here to dertroy racism - states if we challenge and cultural destruction of the Theocratic Republic which was supposed to be the United States of America, then we are intollerent, and must be destroyed. Thus if we oppose gays, including the gays the goddess religion creates, by stating we all must be male and female in a twisted spirit sex phallic removing ( as the phallus is the worm/dragon ), in gnosticism, or the gay gods who oppose the goddess -then we have chosen the wrong sides in their vampire and wearwolf spiritual gnostic religion, Or some weird Christian version, which does not negate their pagan version at all, etc.., then we are "intolerent" And Christmass and other religious Holidays, are supposed to Honor God ( which is another debate of questionable assumptions ), is now supposed to move aside for a secular holiday which Honors a race, becuase it feels it does not have enough equality with God???????? But if we complain, we are intollerent, and racists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get rid of the goddess of liberty, and democracy, and turn back to God, and we can only then turn around the Church, and this country, instead of it becomming worse for us instead. and believe me, it is going to get much worse for us all, if we do not wake up, and return to God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I anticipate things will get worse. I cringe to say that, because my heart's desire is that things get better. And I'm not a doom & gloom type of person.
Oh but things will get better,it's just that when they do is when you need to watch out,with that said,let me share with you how things will play out.There is going to be a one world Government,that Government will fail(deadly wound)That is when satan will arrive on the scene pretending to be Christ and will heal that wound and in turn we will go to a one world religious system with satan as the anti christ rulling,thats why it is very important to know that satan comes first that is also why the rapture is such a dangerous doctrine because most of the world will believe the lie and God will allow it.(strong delussion)During satan's reign there will be peace albeit a false peace(when ye say peace peace,then sudden destruction)then the true Christ returns.It won't be until that moment that the world will know that they have been following satan,actually they will know when the two witnesses rise,remember Christ returns within the hour after this happens.
 

Christina

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I agree N2 with your outline of events the only thing I would add is using Gods timetable 1 hour is = to 5mo. (Rev.9.5) 5 mo. is equal to 150 days Same as Noahs flood was on the land 150 days the flood of Satan/antchrist's lies will flood the land 150 days (5mo.)9:5They were not given power to kill them, but only to torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered was like that of the sting of a scorpion when it strikes a man.
 

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.......using Gods timetable 1 hour is = to 5mo.......
Hey Kriss, I understand that satan is to rule for a 5 month period,but I lean more towards a literal hour in this case because I feel satan will have already been here for 5 months at the time he kills the two witnesses.Remember their bodies will lay in the street for three days,which I feel is also a literal three days.
 

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the great delusion is already pretty much in,with a few adjustments maybe.You wont see believers necessarily drop off that much till the accusations start flying.It starts with a spiritual falling away,which is nearly complete,and then we have the fake church dropping the faith due to persecution,physically leaving the church and probably joining the new system.George bush jnr will have payed a great part in this conditioning system
 

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Hi this whole forum is filled with apostacy and delusion, sorry to say are angles genderless, come on thats something you can not get, man are we lost. And we have to get into some real meat of the bible?