Are you Esau?

Jacob_Rising · Oct 26, 2013

Are you Esau?

Esau is the outcome, Jacob's covering.

Jacob wanted the riches of this world, and it was the wrong treasure to seek.
But then Jacob struggled with God, and he brought all he had and offered it to his brother.

Money is an illusion.

If you seek after the riches of this world, you are putting on the covering of Esau, because this is what you chose.

The outcome is that God hates Esau, and Jacob pretended to be Esau as to want the riches of this world.

So I see Esau, and I see Jacob.
I Think.

My name is Judah, and on the left of me is Ephraim, and on my right is Benjamin. I am in the middle and what I do is either going to make me Benjamin, or Ephraim, and I don't wanna be Ephraim.

My name is Able, and on the left of me is Cain, and on my right is Seth. I am all 3, but in the end, I will be either Seth, or Cain, and I don't wanna be Cain.

My name is Isaac, and on the left of me is Ishmael, and on my right, I see a man dying for me, but I was so willing O Lord to die, You have saved me.

I am 3, I am in the middle, and whatever I do determines my outcome.

Arnie Manitoba · Oct 26, 2013

I picked ... NONE OF THE ABOVE

because I dont think there is anyone here who chases the riches of the world

It is usually poor Christians who bash successful Christians because of jealous hatred

best wishes

Hope you get rich and share your riches with the poor

horsecamp · Oct 26, 2013

i see my self in all of them ..

that's why i needed to be saved by Jesus

Jacob_Rising · Oct 26, 2013

Arnie Manitoba said:
I picked ... NONE OF THE ABOVE

because I dont think there is anyone here who chases the riches of the world

It is usually poor Christians who bash successful Christians because of jealous hatred

best wishes

Hope you get rich and share your riches with the poor

I hope I do too.

daq · Oct 26, 2013

Both Esau and Jacob come from the same lump of clay but Esau is a shaggy goat hairy sa`iyr that savours only the things which be of the anthropon-man-faced. Once upon the consummation of an age the soil of a certain wealthy anthropon-man-faced brought forth abundantly. And the anthropon-man-faced thought within himself, saying, What shall I do? For I have not adequate space wherein to lay up the bountiful fruits of me? And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my granaries, and greater shall I build; and there shall I gather all the grains of me, even all the goodness of me. And I will say to my soul, O Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry! But God said unto the anthropon-man-faced: Thou fool, this night thy soul they shall demand of thee: and what you have prepared, to whom shall it fall? And I saw in the End that the Potter took my Esau vessel and cast him into the Limne tou Puros.

afaithfulone4u · Oct 27, 2013

Esau and Cain represent the fleshly man of the carnal nature that is only concerned with self satisfaction to their destruction. The Cains/Can but they won't humble themselves to God to raise their standards. He had no faith in God for he did not understand that God would find out that he killed his brother so that he would have not competition to be on TOP.Also his offerings to God were only what he had left over and did not want, because why give to God whom he can't see, when he wanted it for himself that he could see.
While Abel had given the Best and the First of what he had BACK to God whom gave it to him to begin with as all things belong to God and are not ours, but are given for our use and comfort. Abel pleased God for he had faith that God was real and worthy of a perfect offering.

While Esau was so profane that he didn't see any use for any inheritance in the future when his belly was growling NOW and would rather satisfy that, even to the point of SELLING his birthright to Jacob whom GOD pronounced would RULE over Esau to their mother BEFORE the birth of the twins. So Esau/fleshly Israel is not the inheritors which is what Esau represents and the mother knowing what God said/promised, also knew the mind of one ruled by the flesh that they would GO BACK ON THEIR word and NOT make good the selling of his inheritance to Jacob after he ate the soup. So the mother(heavenly Jerusalem) dressed her son/Son in the image of the FIRSTBORN/CHRIST by putting on HIS GARMENTS(Hairy signify his beastly nature) on Jacob/Israel(Spiritual) so that the father/Father who is OLD the Ancient of Days would see JACOB/BODY OF CHRIST as the Son He loved a sweet smelling savior whom WILL receive the Blessing PROMISED.

Jacob deceived no one and Jacob represents those who will wrestle all night long with the Word of God till they receive the blessing. The blessing of the LORD it maketh rich and adds no sorrow to it.

Have you ever tried to live a peaceful life with NO INCOME, poor health?? My God owns the entire earth the gold is mine and the silver is mine and the cattle on a thousand hills belong to ME SAYS GOD, the Creator of All things that He gave HIS CHILDREN dominion OF. Yet the scheme of the devil is to make the child of God believe it is a sin to live an abundant life... KNOW WHY?

Because he wants his UNCLEAN OFFSPRING to have it in their possession as THEY STILL DO, while the man of God who brings the Word of God to the LOST WORLD to bring them into a place of blessing for obedience to Christ, to walk in poverty, lack as A CHILD OF THE KING???Should a kings child live in such a manner?
My God is a generous, loving PROVIDING God, not a child abuser. True Jerusalem will have ALL THE RICHIES IN THE END for they all will be in MY FATHER'S HOUSE.
Zech 14:14-17
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
KJV
Ps 112:1-3
112:1 Praise ye the LORD. Blessed is the man that feareth the LORD, that delighteth greatly in his commandments.
2 His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed.
3 Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever.
KJV

You need to correct your thinking.... We do not worship money.... we worship the ONE who is able to give wealth to who so ever has grown up into a son and has learned that money is a tool for ease and comfort... NOT A god.
The LOVE of the money that you will be unfaithful to Christ aka THE TRUTH OF THE WORD in order to obtain it is THE SINFUL THING, not nice things to enjoy.

Jacob_Rising · Oct 27, 2013

I would have changed what I said about money because it did offend right away, but I didn't mean it that way.

I grew up the wealthiest family in my county and that is to say a lot, my father was a very, very wealthy man.

But I do feel sorry for people who have money, and who will never get to a place in their life where they have an option of giving all that they have away, just out of belief.

There is no doubt that I am the wealthiest man I know, and everyone who knows me would tell you this.

But I'm not wealthy because I have any material objects at all, what I own I could put in a small suitcase.

Nevertheless, I OWN EVERYTHING.

The reason I own everything is because I gave up everything.

I work everyday but don't get a check, and the difference between me and most people, is that most people live for tomorrow, while I only live for today.

I have absolutely no need of setting up a retirement plan or filling a bank with money because people walk by me everyday with my cash in they pockets.

There is no evil in buying some land and building a house and preparing for retirement, that's what people do.

It is said,'' God owns a thousand hills with a thousand cattle on each, and he owns everything.''

And I have looked at it all my life that God got me this job or that job, or this car, because I believe he did.

I raised 3 kids who were never in want and are wealthy themselves.

But I feel sad for people who live for tomorrow, I just don't believe that they will ever know what it's like to really know that God really does own everything.

Life must go on, people must work and have places to live and if they don't take care of their children, then they are not men.

But I would inform a young man not to marry, not to have kids, and to work everyday seeking to help the poor.

I would tell anyone to go out and find a needy elderly Jewish person and become a slave to that person, to really believe that his needs are more important than your needs.

Would I be wrong in telling another person to sell all he owns and give to the poor?

Do you know what happens after you do this?

It looks like the most irresponsible thing a person could do, but it's the most freeing act that a person could ever commit.

You wont look at life the same way anymore, and like I say, '' money is an illusion.''

You cannot out give God, it just isn't possible.

You suddenly realize that God really does own everything and he moves money around as he will.

If a person prays for money and wealth, they can have it, but wealth is like a chain around your neck.

That's why I feel sorry for people who have wealth, they only think they are wealthy, none are as wealthy as I.

A few months ago, somebody gave me a check for 2000 dollars, and for a day, I had it in my mind that I had a little nest and for a few hours I considered to start saving a little nest egg.

It was the worst feeling of my whole life, the next day, I got rid of it and was free again.

But then, I'm crazy.

Arnie Manitoba · Oct 27, 2013

Excellent post Jacob_Rising .... now I understand where you were coming from. Thanks

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