It's The Latest Cool: Jew Bashing!

There was a series on UK television recently called "The Story of The Jews" - I think it was story not history, but it was about the history. It was by the historian Simon Schama.

I missed the first episode but saw the rest. It was very good. One thing it covered was the persecution of the Jews down through the ages. It hardly touched on the Holocaust - think because it has been covered so much - but hightlighted some of the other atrocities perpetrated against the Jews. It seems that wherever Jews congregate and settle, sooner or later they get persecuted.

Its Anti-Semitic to state any new found facts.. Many things will brand a person as Anti-Semitic ..This why So many Christians are even afraid to tell
a Jewish person about Jesus because that is Anti Semitic. because why would they need a savior if there sinless.And you have to tell them they are some of the worst of sinners

Wake up ;;;Jewish persons are not sin-less..

Their even more stubborn than us Norwegians at times And they can sin with the worst of us to.

now All wars are awful.. yet the united states was also the best in the world at propaganda during the second world war.

I Lived in one of the largest Jewish communities in the world . Many of my friends are Jewish my niece and a sister in law my nephew is also Jewish.

during school years after the second world war .. they were still showing films that stated Germans were using Jewish skin to make lamp shades out of .. a total lie but us kids believed it.. also during the famous Neurmberg trials They were trying to pass
off the fire bombings that the united states did to the Dresden residents in Germany.

.because they were so horrific burned body's of little children and women until some one realized what was going on..

Also now evidence has come up that no one was Gassed in Aushwitch poland the way it was claimed they were..

I don't know ?
and you don't know all that went on either

believe the bible take every thing else with a grain of salt .. God says all people are Lier's

we lie they lie every body lies lies..

we know one thing what ever happened to some of the Jewish people and some of the German people we would not want it to happen to our loved ones ..

by the way Hitler had some Jewish friends that were high ranking Nazi officials. there are pictures on the net of that

and the American Rockerfeller foundation is well known not to be innocent of the Joseph Mengula.. human exsperimenting

I think Hitler used the Jews and a lot of them were murdered because of it. And Hitler did not seem to care
about any humans life if he could use it as a means to a end that would achieve what he wanted..
if the Jews were not so handy I think he would have used some other Minority..I DONT THINK HE HATED THEM in the sense we think of hate ..I THINK HE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ANY ONES LIFE-- IF HE COULD USE IT to achieve what he wanted..

This Vale Of Tears said:

It really is unsettling the number of people I thought were good but then turn out to harbor Jew-hatred and deny the holocaust or say "it isn't as bad as reported". It's stunning that people can be so unconscionable, and yet it's very revealing when trying to figure out how such atrocities could occur in the first place. Satan REALLY hates the Jewish people.

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Satan hates Jesus.. not people he wants people to go to hell to get back at Jesus who loves them..

people Satan could care less about his hate is FOR Jesus IT MAKES MORE SENSE IN MY MIND that Satan would have some affection for THE people who hate Jesus to..

horsecamp said:

Its Anti-Semitic to state any new found facts.. Many things will brand a person as Anti-Semitic ..This why So many Christians are even afraid to tell
a Jewish person about Jesus because that is Anti Semitic. because why would they need a savior if there sinless.And you have to tell them they are some of the worst of sinners

Wake up ;;;Jewish persons are not sin-less..

Their even more stubborn than us Norwegians at times And they can sin with the worst of us to.

now All wars are awful.. yet the united states was also the best in the world at propaganda during the second world war.

I Lived in one of the largest Jewish communities in the world . Many of my friends are Jewish my niece and a sister in law my nephew is also Jewish.

during school years after the second world war .. they were still showing films that stated Germans were using Jewish skin to make lamp shades out of .. a total lie but us kids believed it.. also during the famous Neurmberg trials They were trying to pass
off the fire bombings that the united states did to the Dresden residents in Germany.

.because they were so horrific burned body's of little children and women until some one realized what was going on..

Also now evidence has come up that no one was Gassed in Aushwitch poland the way it was claimed they were..

I don't know ?
and you don't know all that went on either

believe the bible take every thing else with a grain of salt .. God says all people are Lier's

we lie they lie every body lies lies..

we know one thing what ever happened to some of the Jewish people and some of the German people we would not want it to happen to our loved ones ..

by the way Hitler had some Jewish friends that were high ranking Nazi officials. there are pictures on the net of that

and the American Rockerfeller foundation is well known not to be innocent of the Joseph Mengula.. human exsperimenting

I think Hitler used the Jews and a lot of them were murdered because of it. And Hitler did not seem to care
about any humans life if he could use it as a means to a end that would achieve what he wanted..
if the Jews were not so handy I think he would have used some other Minority..I DONT THINK HE HATED THEM in the sense we think of hate ..I THINK HE COULD CARE LESS ABOUT ANY ONES LIFE-- IF HE COULD USE IT to achieve what he wanted..

Satan hates Jesus.. not people he wants people to go to hell to get back at Jesus who loves them..

people Satan could care less about his hate is FOR Jesus IT MAKES MORE SENSE IN MY MIND that Satan would have some affection for THE people who hate Jesus to..

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Sorry, did read all of the threads but, where exactly did someone say that people who are jewish have never sinned?

No I am saying I only know what ive been told about the holocaust.

and what ive been told "some" of it has been proven to be not true .

proving again God is right people lie..

horsecamp said:

No I am saying I only know what ive been told about the holocaust.

and what ive been told "some" of it has been proven to be not true .

proving again God is right people lie..

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IAM not afraid to be called Anti-Semitic

if I thought the holocaust was all hoax I would say so.

snr5557 said:

Sorry, did read all of the threads but, where exactly did someone say that people who are jewish have never sinned?

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its a statement it can apply to any one who thinks that JEWISH people are not sinners..

horsecamp said:

No I am saying I only know what ive been told about the holocaust.

and what ive been told "some" of it has been proven to be not true .

proving again God is right people lie..

IAM not afraid to be called Anti-Semitic

if I thought the holocaust was all hoax I would say so.

its a statement it can apply to any one who thinks that JEWISH people are not sinners..

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When did anyone say people didn't lie?

Why did you put Jewish in all caps, as if you're yelling it?

Why would you just put in a random statement like that?

This Vale Of Tears said:

It really is unsettling the number of people I thought were good but then turn out to harbor Jew-hatred and deny the holocaust or say "it isn't as bad as reported". It's stunning that people can be so unconscionable, and yet it's very revealing when trying to figure out how such atrocities could occur in the first place. Satan REALLY hates the Jewish people.

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I do not see how anyone living in today's world, listening to the evening news could doubt that the Holocaust took place. Look at what happens in North Korea or the nations of the Middle East today, or in the fairly recent past in Cambodia, Africa or the Balkans. It is a common practice for a leader to blame someone else for the nations problems. The Jews are an easy target because they live their own culture within the context of the larger national culture, not like Native Americans or other groups who live their culture outside the mainstream culture.

As far as Satan hating the Jews - his life depends on destroying them. An established Jewish nation is the portal through Christ entered this world the first time to crush his head, and it is the portal through which he will come again to finally destroy Satan completely. The Holocaust was his attempt to prevent the portal being put in place, it failed. The early wars against the new nation of Israel was Satan's attempt to crush it, they failed. This current building of hatred for Israel is his last stand, his gathering of troops for one final all-out effort to finally destroy the portal in the hopes of keeping Jesus from returning. It to will fail - and gloriously - with the actual return of Jesus when the Jews open the portal by proclaiming "Blessed is he who comes in the Name of the Lord".

This Vale Of Tears said:

And the Nazis who will make that happen aren't men who lived decades ago, they are your neighbors, co-workers, family, and other acquaintances that you never imagined could harbor such ugly bigotry.

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What an outrageous post!
I've never met a nazi.
Calling everyone a nazi is the new cool :mellow:
And just as offensive. These sorts of sweeping remarks are no better than what you are rightly condemning.
Who are you to state that my family or neighbors are nazis?

Jewish suffering is no grander or more noble or worse than the suffering of any others.
All human suffering is bitter and shameful, not matter who they are or what justification evil men provide.
Unregenerate men hate each other and war and murder and atrocities are works of the flesh taking place since Cain.
Stalin and the Trotskyites murdered tens of millions; Mao responsible for 50 million. And so it goes.
Only God knows how many the United States and the Allies are responsible for.

One poster here was actually correct in his understanding that some of the things passed as fact about WWII are proven myths.
Yet though officially admitted to be delibrate falsifications, some of these myths are still stated as facts, and people are persecuted for simply pointing to officially corrected facts.
Such is the nature of war propaganda - and ongoing war propaganda.
We must all take responsibility for knowing what we are talking about in these matters.
Iraq was not responsible for 911 yet we were told it was. Now look at it.

In fact, I am not willing any longer to play this game.
Anyone who wants to discuss WW2,.....let's begin.
Make sure you know what you're talking about. Have facts.

Neo-nazi propaganda is alive and well in the northwest. There are several kids I work with that adhere to in - it is all christianized and written into their white supremacy bible translations. All of them are insecure fundamentalists, but they would die before considering any other viewpoint.

Every one in Germany's army during world war two were considered to be Nazi's ..
And thinking of them as all hating Jewish people would be a kin to thinking all of America
is baby murder's since abortion is protected by law in THE USA and many Americans
are happy when some one DECIDES TO Murder A unborn baby..

AND IN THE good old USA its a known fact abortion IS well known as THE PERFERED WAY TO
do away with undesirables such as the negro population.. in fact the founder of planned parent hood
said so and there is a Jewish supreme court judge that said as much and is also for it..

of course the truth is not all the German army called the Nazi's or united states people or Jewish USA supreme court judges are or were racist at all..

though there is and were those that are and were..
people that live in glass houses should not throw rocks ,,,,


racism is a common sin all humanity has..

“Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
A comment made by a current United states Supreme court judge,,

did any one watch the interview with Eric Cantor while he was in Poland at the largest concentration camp..


did any one notice he used the correct term and not gas chambers .. since no one has ever proven to be gassed there. fact is poison gassing there has been proved to be another myth.. And I remember being taught that myth AS FACT in public school.

Eric is Jewish and has kept himself up to date on myths concerning the holocaust. He cared enough to check out some facts..it was a evil place

.yet you did not hear Eric repeat myths.. no matter how popular they are to believe,,, or if even people held there swore to them.

lets be honest most of us who had bad things done to us by some one we learned to hate for good reasons .. would also tell lies if we thought those that did it would get into even more trouble ..its human nature..

aspen said:

Neo-nazi propaganda is alive and well in the northwest. There are several kids I work with that adhere to in - it is all christianized and written into their white supremacy bible translations. All of them are insecure fundamentalists, but they would die before considering any other viewpoint.

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racism, hate, dislike is always popular. anywhere ,, because it makes those who hold it feel better about them selves if they have some one to look down on.

it is a natural thing for any of us to do. When a person really thinks about it Even hate or dislike for the haters makes us feel better about our selves..

the story of Jonah is all about that Jonah hated those haters so much he did not even want to go and tell them the good News because he knew that good news about the savior of the world to be born would save them if they believed. Jonah knew God in Christ loved those haters !!
Jesus death for all makes every ones life worth many sparrows------- no matter our reasons for hating them.

I was a child in the 1950's still in grade school. WWII was behind us barely ten years past. I remember magazines passed around by our school teachers on a regular basis, magazine articles that reproduced extremely explicit photographs of what had happened to the Jew in German occupied Europe. I remember them to this day. There were mounds of human hair, piles of empty shoes, collections of gold teeth and items like lamp shades made from human skin and bars of soap made from human tissue. There were photos of dead skeletized bodies most of them nude. But the naked bodies were nothing like plump bodies depicted in renaissance paintings and sculpture. They were barely recognizable as human. It was heavy stuff for kids of eight to ten years old. I remember.

Whatever else one may say about the Jew, and I've no doubt that a lot of it is true, they do not deserve THAT.

Somewhere along the line we've forgotten our humanity and the fact that we are all linked if not by religious tradition and history, then by the simple fact that we all inhabit this earth together. We do not have to love the Jew, but we do have to respect his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Because if we deny it to the least of men, we do not deserve it for ourselves.

but that's just me, hollering from the choir loft....

Jewish Victims of the Holocaust:
The Soap Myth

Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."

"Available documentary evidence and eyewitness accounts have been unable to corroborate in a conclusive manner reports that the National Socialists and their collaborators used human fat from their victims in the manufacture of soap." It goes on to say: "rumors that Germans made soap from human remains originated in French propaganda from the First World War."

The scholars’ view is based in -part on analysis of the small blue-green cakes of soap that Holocaust survivors have presented over the years, claiming that they were made from human fat. Breitbart says the bars are stamped "R.I.F.," for Reich Industry Fat, but in the camps some Jews believed that the I was a J and that the acronym stood for "Jewish Fat." When analyzed, however, the bars turned up no evidence of human DNA.

Jewish Virtual Library
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html

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"None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have ever turned out to be real,"
- the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C

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"there were no extermination camps on German soil"
- Simon Wiesenthal

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LOVE tells the truth.

Poppin said:

Jewish Victims of the Holocaust:
The Soap Myth

Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."

"Available documentary evidence and eyewitness accounts have been unable to corroborate in a conclusive manner reports that the National Socialists and their collaborators used human fat from their victims in the manufacture of soap." It goes on to say: "rumors that Germans made soap from human remains originated in French propaganda from the First World War."

The scholars’ view is based in -part on analysis of the small blue-green cakes of soap that Holocaust survivors have presented over the years, claiming that they were made from human fat. Breitbart says the bars are stamped "R.I.F.," for Reich Industry Fat, but in the camps some Jews believed that the I was a J and that the acronym stood for "Jewish Fat." When analyzed, however, the bars turned up no evidence of human DNA.

Jewish Virtual Library
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html

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"None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have ever turned out to be real,"
- the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C

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"there were no extermination camps on German soil"
- Simon Wiesenthal

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LOVE tells the truth.

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Love tells the truth? Depends a lot on what 'truth' you love doesn't it?

The reader has here been expected to receive a work of NAZI apologetics for the national German policy of Jewish extermination, slavery and oppression in the name of love. Love?

So.....The Final Solution was an act of love? Really?

One wonders what it is the writer really loves? (mod edited)

Explain away the existence of the following NAZI death camps IN GERMANY.
(The following are camps inside the borders of NAZI Germany only.
Although quite a few more existed beyond the LOVING borders of Germany, I'll just publish the short list.)

Bergen-Belsen - with 2 sub-camps
Borgermoor
Buchenwald - with 174 sub-camps
Dachau - with 123 sub-camps
Dieburg
Esterwegen - with 1 sub-camp
Flossenburg - with 94 sub-camps
Gundelsheim
Neuengamme - with 96 sub-camps
Papenburg
Ravensbruck - with 31 sub-camps
Sachsenhausen - with 44 sub-camps
Sachsenburg

As far as denials of human skin constructions including soap, I really don't care how lies are employed to twist what really happened.
I have seen these items.
I have met people who survived the LOVING compassion of the German people.
The numbers the NAZI ministers of love tattooed onto their flesh are still there.
I have seen it.

Part of Jew bashing in the twenty first century is to invent all sorts of smoke and mirrors to claim none of the horrors of German official policy ever happened.

While six million Jews are estimated to have died under the gentle ministrations of NAZI government, an additional six million Christians, homosexuals, criminals and political objectors were also killed. In all of this effusion of blood, the fact that Hitler was an atheist is also swept under the blood stained carpet of history.

Finally the reader should be advised of the prophecy of Christ and the apostles. "To the Jew first - and then the gentiles" are dispensed the blessings and curses of heaven and earth respectively. If Jew bashing and a new round of anti-Jewish persecution are in evidence today, we can be certain that persecution of Christians and secular men of conscience will not be far behind.

If all of this sounds a little harsh, bear in mind that there were once piles of human bodies scattered around German enclaves of slavery, murder and human abuse. As far as I'm concerned a fresh view of the grave, however hideous, is far superior to superficial claims of 'love'.

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft....

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Love tells the truth? Depends a lot on what 'truth' you love doesn't it?

The reader has here been expected to receive a work of NAZI apologetics for the national German policy of Jewish extermination, slavery and oppression in the name of love. Love?

So.....The Final Solution was an act of love? Really?

One wonders what it is the writer really loves? Hitlerism? NAZIism? Murder and oppression? Slavery and death camps? Or just plain and simple anti-semitism.

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The above is all slander, rhetoric and rubbish.
Keep it.

You did not respond to the information in the post.
Probably because you did not read the entire thread, and did not see the three (3) things I addressed.
And you do obviously do not know the details history, which I will not offer you after such a sad and typically self-righteous rant. I no longer waste time discussing simple known facts with people who react as you do.



Concerning the now known war propaganda myth of soap - please heed sources:

Jewish Virtual Library
http://www.jewishvir...caust/soap.html

Concerning the lampshades myth:

The Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C
"None of the lampshades that have surfaced over the past 50 years have ever turned out to be real,"

Simon Wiesenthal
"there were no extermination camps on German soil"

Are any of these sources offering NAZI apologetics

This:

One wonders what it is the writer really loves? Hitlerism? NAZIism? Murder and oppression? Slavery and death camps? Or just plain and simple anti-semitism.

.....is a disgrace. Shame on YOU.

[email protected] said:

So.....The Final Solution was an act of love? Really?

One wonders what it is the writer really loves? Hitlerism? NAZIism? Murder and oppression? Slavery and death camps? Or just plain and simple anti-semitism.

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So.....The Final Solution was an act of love? Really?

Very sad indeed. I would cry out - how dare you....But it doesnt matter. This is your issue, not mine.
I never mentioned the Final Solution.
I never called for any of those things.
Yet you placed those thoughts in my heart - and you put them to paper as if they were my words and desires.

One wonders what it is the writer really loves? Hitlerism? NAZIism? Murder and oppression? Slavery and death camps? Or just plain and simple anti-semitism.

I do hope you re-read what you have written, attributing it all to ME: what it is the writer really loves? Hitlerism? NAZIism? Murder and oppression? Slavery and death camps? Or just plain and simple anti-semitism.

I hope you read it several times.

1 Corinthians 13:7
Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

You chose to not only believe the worst about me; you bore false witness, in public...and made a truly evil report about me.

[email protected] said:

Explain away the existence of the following NAZI death camps IN GERMANY.
(The following are camps inside the borders of NAZI Germany only.
Although quite a few more existed beyond the LOVING borders of Germany, I'll just publish the short list.)

Bergen-Belsen - with 2 sub-camps
Borgermoor
Buchenwald - with 174 sub-camps
Dachau - with 123 sub-camps
Dieburg
Esterwegen - with 1 sub-camp
Flossenburg - with 94 sub-camps
Gundelsheim
Neuengamme - with 96 sub-camps
Papenburg
Ravensbruck - with 31 sub-camps
Sachsenhausen - with 44 sub-camps
Sachsenburg

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Did you see me anywhere at any time deny there were concentration camps in Germany....NO.
you did NOT.
I notice you used the term death camp. Do you mean extermination camp..because....

What you saw me post was:

"there were no extermination camps on German soil"
- Simon Wiesenthal

is Simon Wiesenthal lying?

ALL cases of extermination of the jews as a policy, taking place in camps, are NOW said to have taken place in camps in POLAND...not Germany. Any amateur historian knows this by now.

[email protected] said:

As far as denials of human skin constructions including soap, I really don't care how lies are employed to twist what really happened.

I have seen these items.

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Where?
Verified by whom.
The Holocaust Museum says they dont and never did exist.

EVEN THOUGH the early allied (known propagandistic film) is still shown.
Now you are saying the Holocaust Museum and Simon Wiesenthal are liars.

Your zeal does not excuse your ignorance, nor your evil report.
You need to apologize.

End of discussion.