Is the denial of geologic evidence the best way to promote Christianity?

Tim TP said:

The earth is 4.5ish billion years old. The Sun is 5.5ish billion years old. The universe is 13.8 billion years old. We know these things. We know then from looking at the evidence around us.

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But you have no way of knowing that , and no way of measuring it. This is just a made up number from the religion of evolution

Years ago the evolutionist used millions of years as the earths age , then they changed it to hundreds of millions of years , now they say billions of years ... It is the "magic equation" that is used to explain everything

A frog will not turn into a prince ... we all know that.

But the evolutionist says wait a million years and that frog will be a Prince.

Yeah Right

Promoting the Gospel message (not the religion of Christianity) has nothing to do with geology.

Tim .... if you asked me if some of those stars and galaxies are millions of light years away I would say yes.

if you asked me if it would take millions of light years for the light to reach earth I would say yes

if you asked me if that dis-proves a young universe I would say no

Why ???

Because when God created the universe (most likely as a big-bang scenario) he said he stretched the stars out to the uttermost heavens (space)

So the light beams would already be there from the start (when the stars were close to earth) .... and as they were moved away the light beams are still there.

It is wrong to presume the stars were first placed in distant space and then had the light turned on .... the light was there from the beginning.



Thus we do not require millions of light years for it to reach earth

Tim, you just said God faked the sky, so you believe in God or you would not have said that.

Arnie, You just said the earth is a big bang theory and all that they believe.

The Worm has Turned.
Is not the Bible wonderful?, so many mysteries, can be so misleading creating wars for many generations.

religion is a faith and faith is believing what you do not understand, Therefor the Bible is the real tree on knowledge, its good in ones mind and evil in the others mind.

I do not know, just babbling.

I do not know if you said what you say or if some other entity put words in your mouth.

I be afraid to post anything that deals in what God or Satan said or did not say. Only time will tell and faith that God or Satan does not cause me more pain and misery, or curse another for what I said or think. Sometime I find the News too unbelievable.

You should know, you can not even imagine real power over all things.

Tim TP said:

Nice idea but wrong.

What we see when we look at light from galaxies billions of years ago is an image of what the universe was like back then. They are close together. Not close to earth. The composition of then differers from modern ones.

Your idea does not stand up to scrutiny.

It is also another csae of "God has faked the sky".

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TimP You dont realize we are in agreement here .... the far reaches of space we observe are from "way back then" ... many of those stars have burned out (maybe all of them for all we know) ... yet because of the distance we still see the light

God did not have to fake the sky , it is just as we see it , the one thing we do not understand is how he could do it all in an instant ... seems impossible to us .... the Genesis record indicates God just "spoke it into existence" .... eg: ..."let there be light" ... "let there be planets" .... "let there be stars"

Raining said

Arnie, You just said the earth is a big bang theory and all that they believe.
The Worm has Turned.
Is not the Bible wonderful?, so many mysteries, can be so misleading creating wars for many generations.

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(Hi Raining) ... if I understand you .... the big bang theory could very well align with God creating the universe in an instant .... He "spoke it" and in an instant (big bang) the whole universe spread out .... including the rays of light from the stars ,

Not sure if that is what you meant .... but I agree it could be what happened.

I think the biggest difficulty for us humans and scientists down here is that we are stuck measuring everything in "time" ... whereas God operates in eternity (no time) and we cannot fathom it.

Even our most renowned atheist scientists will agree "time" only exists in the dimension we reside in

best wishes.

With A. Einstein's theories, and S. Hawking's theories, would not a black hole or massive mass objects suck the light up from some thing millions or billions of light years away?

I mean the chance that a black hole or a large mass is in between the source of light and earth is really great.

Some black holes are 100,000 time the size of the sun, some are 10,000 light years across and the number of black holes are more then the sand on a beach. This is data I found in 30 minutes of online searching.

It is true that some Christians interpret the Bible in a way that contradicts the empirical data discovered by scientists.

However, not all Christians do such a thing.

Science itself is mute in regards to the existence of God and in regards to the spiritual lessons taught in the Bible.

It is not science that causes a person to reject the Gospel. It is something else.

science seems to be just as debatable as the bible. no kidding.

No real proof.