Why Are Pastors Agreeing To Violate The U.S. Constitution

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Why Are Pastors Agreeing To Violate The U.S. Constitution?By Brannon HowseThe same federal government that has outlawed a pastor or priest from offering an invocation or a benediction at a high school graduation ceremony now wants to use them to usher in martial law. In a television news report about this new government program, a pastor can be seen and heard declaring his willingness to assist in taking away your 2nd Amendment right to defend your family by misquoting Romans 13. (Click here to view the news report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIDNQNsUss ). By the way, will these same pastors agree to stop preaching and teaching against homosexuality if the government says that it is hate speech? I think the answer is yes! Be careful when reading this article and don’t assume I am saying more than I am. This article is about one thing; that pastors should not be working with the federal government to deprive you of your right to defend your family and certainly not when there is civil unrest. Look at Katrina in New Orleans. Most of the police left the city themselves. Some of the police that remained were seen and even filmed stealing from the stores. While gangs are out in full force with stolen guns are law abiding citizens suppose to give up their guns and “trust” the government to protect them? I am so tired of feminized; milk-toast pastors that don’t know history, the Bible and that civil government does not always trump church government. America needs more pastors like Dietrich Bonhoeffer who opposed Hitler and less that are like Mr. Rogers. Many of my friends who are pastors don’t even need to read this article because they could have written this article. However, if you have a Pastor Rogers that lives in your neighborhood and he has a warped interpretation of Romans 13, then pass this article onto him and discourage him from signing up to be part of the government’s efforts to trash the U.S. Constitution and deprive you of the right to protect your family and private property when you need that right the most; during massive civil unrest. As America becomes increasingly secular, and the judiciary takes away more and more of our religious liberties, Christians need to become acquainted with the Biblical response to tyranny and to understand the proper time, place, and type of civil disobedience allowed by God. Unfortunately, many American pastors believe God condemns all civil disobedience, and others believe it is so rarely permissible as to be a non-option. I even know people who believe Corrie Ten Boom sinned by hiding Jews in her home during the Nazi occupation of Europe!Many of America’s pastors believe Christians are always to comply with the wishes of the government. This false teaching comes largely from an incorrect view of Romans 13. In Moral Dilemmas, Kerby Anderson does a great job of describing the most common misinterpretation of Romans 13: Some critics argue that civil disobedience is prohibited by the clear admonition in Romans 13:1, “Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is not authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God” (NASB). Yet even this passage seems to provide a possible argument for disobeying a government that has exceeded its authority. The verses following these speak of the government’s role and function. The ruler is to be a “servant of God,” and government should reward good and punish evil. Government that fails to do so is outside God’s mandated authority and function. Government is not autonomous; it has delegated authority from God. It is to restrain evil and punish wrongdoers. When it does violate God’s delegated role and refuses to reward good and punish evil, it has not proper authority. The apostle Paul called for believers to “be subject” to government, but he did not instruct them to “obey” every command of government. When government issues an unjust or unbiblical injunction, Christians have a higher authority. One can be “subject” to the authority of the state but still refuse to “obey” a specific law which is contrary to biblical standards.[1] Similarly, Francis Schaeffer warned, “One either confesses that God is the final authority, or one confesses that Caesar is Lord.” We will serve God or serve man, but we cannot serve both. We obey government officials except when those authorities support civil laws that violate the laws of God. First Peter 2:13-14 also makes it clear that God’s plan for civil government is to punish evildoers and to protect and praise those who do right: “Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake, whether to the king as supreme, or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.” Kerby Anderson describes the significance of “Lex Rex,” a great historical piece written on the subject of civil authority: The best articulation of these biblical principles can be found in Samuel Rutherford’s essay “Lex Rex.” Arguing that governmental law was founded on the law of God, he rejected the seventeenth-century idea of the “divine right of kings.” The king was not the ultimate authority, God’s law was (hence the title Lex Rex, “The law is king”). If the king and the government disobeyed the law, then they were to be disobeyed. He argued that all men; including the king were under God’s law and not above it. According to Rutherford the civil magistrate was a “fiduciary figure” who held his authority in trust for the people. If that trust was violated, the people had a political basis for resistance. Not surprisingly “Lex Rex” was banned in England and Scotland because it was seen as treasonous and fomenting political rebellion.[2] While we can hope never to have to disobey the laws of our communities and country in order to walk in good conscience with God, there is no guarantee that we’ll never be called to civil disobedience. Knowing where you stand from a Biblical viewpoint, though, is the first step in being prepared to do what God requires.When civil government steps outside of God’s ordained purpose and persecutes righteous people, promotes evil, and does injustice to the innocent, the moral authority of the civil government has been lost, and Christians are free to disobey. As we just said, disobedience to government may be required in the process of opposing evil, promoting righteousness, defending the weak, and providing for the safety of one’s family.While God allows governments to come into being, that does not mean God approves of every government. To draw an analogy: God allowed the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, but God did not approve of them. If, for example, the people of Cuba are sick and tired of the killings, beatings, and imprisonments dispensed by the government of their country, they are Biblically justified in overthrowing Castro (who has clearly not fulfilled the God-given purpose of civil government). Scripture calls rulers “ministers of God.” The description “ministers” shows clearly how important the responsibility of a civic leader actually is. Since Scripture calls these people “ministers,” it stands to reason that God would call Christians into this occupation just as He calls some people into the ministry of being a full-time pastor.Christians in Germany should not have shown “honor” to Hitler. The Bible says we are to give honor to those who are due honor, and Hitler did not deserve any such thing. He was not a “minister of God” and was not a legitimate government official because he violated the God-ordained purpose for civil government.While God allowed Hitler to come to power, He did not approve of him. I do not believe God would hold it against German pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer for assisting in the assassination attempt on Hitler. Pastor Bonhoeffer understood Romans 13 correctly and understood the Biblical mandate to defend the defenseless and to oppose evil. He also understood the Biblical right of self-defense. We live in a fallen world where man has a free will to do good or evil. While it is true that the church often flourishes during times of extreme persecution, this happens largely because of the civil disobedience of Christians who worship underground, smuggle Bibles, and distribute Scripture contrary to the laws governing them. Some governments are so evil, corrupt, and ungodly, Christians are obliged not to support them because to do so would be to participate in what they do. According to Christ, the government according should work in harmony with the church (Matthew 22:21), and when it does, God approves of the government in power. Understand, though, that church government is not inevitably superceded by civil government. Many people in the Bible took part in civil disobedience: • When Pharaoh commanded the Hebrew midwives to kill all male Hebrew babies, Moses’ mother lied to Pharaoh and did not carry out his command (Exodus. 1-2); • When Nebuchadnezzar ordered Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to bow down to his golden image, they refused and were cast into a fiery furnace (Daniel 3); • Daniel prayed to God in spite of the king’s dictate to the contrary (Daniel 6); • In Acts, when Peter and John were commanded not to preach the gospel, their response was, “We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).[3] We should do the same and that includes the Biblical mandate to protect your family.
 

Wakka

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Because the American Church is perverted. The pastors would rather make their own decisions rather than asking God for His will.
 

Jordan

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Another sign of getting closer to the endtimes. I can't wait to meet Satan *evil laugh* ...I had to do that, it's just that the fact that I hate Satan with a passion. As he is the first to be damned to the Lake of Fire. (Ezekiel 28:18)Jag
 

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I remember before that there was a post on this subject somewhere, and I think that the pastors working with the federal government to calm the people in times of crisis and the like was experimented with the flooding in Louisiana. The government's intent is to use pastors and middle people dealing with and calming the masses that finally realize that something is a tad wrong when one day we wake up to martial law. I guess that's because people feel better with the pastors they know, than trusting an Orwellian government.I hate to even ask my pastor---- another Mr. Rogers. It was this kind of post that woke me up to the fact that maybe I should leave.As for Romans 13, my understanding is that that we should obey the government that God put over us. But in the case of the United States, that is the constitution and God Himself. IF we were told to turn in our guns, then that is apostasy from the constitution and Romans 13 would actually allow us to rebel. In other words, the "government" that milk toast preachers tell us to obey is not really a valid government, but mass apostasy to the intended govrnment.
 

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You know Kriss,Religion has been described as the Opium of the masses. It also has been said that it is the best way to control a population.It sounds like these pastors are preaching "population control".It is the duty and personal responsibility of all people of religion to be discerning about the preachers they listen to. After all, it would it would be ironic to arrive at final judgement to find you had been listening to the "devil in a dog collar", wouldn't it??:shepard:
 

tim_from_pa

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"devil in a dog collar"
Hee hee. I like that. Those "dirty dogs"!
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Jordan

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Why does Christianity (religion) today loves to have sex with Lucy? Or the fact that Christianity is being sexually abused by Lucy without people even realizing it?The bible says that we have to stay and remain a virgin and wait for our Husband to come back. (reality)JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.
 

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If our Government violates our Constitution then it is our Government who is in violation of Romans 13 and it is our DUTY to rebel against them. Most of the Constitution is in plain english and very easy to understand. We don't need a Judicial system to interpret the Constitution for us. We need the Judicial system to keep the Congress and President in check. Unfortunately all three branches have been against the People whom the Constitution was written for. If you read the Constitution you will realize our government has been against it since the early 1900's. They have been more into controlling us than serving us. We are worse off now than our forefathers were under British rule. We are better off than the actual British though so I wonder if we should be grateful??