It is a sin to act on same sex urges.
Says that "homosexuals are seen as lustful sexual beings." He also says that heterosexual people fall in love, get married, and have children while homosexuals just "have sex." He argues that homosexuality "is not just about sex" and that "having a sexual orientation allows one to fall in love with someone and have a long committed relationship with them and to form a family."
Says the quality of homosexual love is equal to the quality of heterosexual love.
Matthew 7:17-18 (KJV)- "Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit."
Argues that, according to Jesus, all good teaches have good consequences and all bad teachings have bad consequences. Says that "Even difficult teachings are not destructive to human dignity." Says that teaching that homosexuality is wrong results in low self-esteem, emotional and spiritual devastation, and low self-worth for those that are homosexual. He says that these are the consequences of being homosexual. Says that this teaching has not born good fruit in the lives of homosexuals and has only caused pain and suffering for them. He says if we take Jesus' teaching seriously then we would question the traditional teachings that homosexuality is wrong.
Genesis 2:18 (KJV)-"And The Lord God said, It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
Argues that woman is a suitable partner for most men, but that is not the case for gay men. The suitable partner for gay men is another gay man. Says that by the traditional teaching they must live alone their whole lives even if they have a "suitable partner." He is saying that God said it is not good for man to be alone when this teaching makes homosexual men alone. He says that by holding to the traditional interpretation that we are contradicting the Bible's own teachings.
Genesis 19:4-8 (KJV)-"But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men who came in to you this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do you to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these Men do nothing; for therefore came They under the shadow of my roof."
Argues that Sodom and Gomorrah originally had nothing to do with sexuality at all. He says that in the Middle Ages it began to be believed that the sin that caused Sodom and Gomorrah to be destroyed was homosexuality. (sodomy: any non procreative sexual behavior) He says that the men calling to Lot to have sex with the men with him (Lot) is the only connection that homosexuality has to this passage. He says that gang rape and homosexuality are different. He says that "gang rape of men by men was used as a common tactic of humiliation and aggression in warfare and other hostile contexts in ancient times. It had nothing to do with sexual orientation and attraction. The point was to shame and to conquer. That is the appropriate background for reading this in Genesis 19." Says that the Bible never links what they did to homosexuality.
Ezekiel 16:49 (KJV)-"Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
Says only 1 of those 20 verses related to Sodom and Gomorrah throughout the Bible is about sexuality.
Jude 7 (KJV)-"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
I am not sure if it is because he uses a different translation of the Bible, but when he speaks of Jude 7 he does not speak of the part that says "and going after strange flesh, are set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire" he stops at fornication and says that whatever fornication that was committed could be any form, not just homosexuality. This I find odd.
Leviticus 18 contains a list of sexual prohibitions and chapter 20 contains the list of punishments. "In these chapters male same sex intercourse is prohibited and the punishment for violators is death." (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13 (KJV)- "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination; If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Says that since it is Old Testament law that it is not meant for Christians. As Gentiles were being including for the very first time in the New Testament it was argued if Gentile converts should have to follow the law. In Acts chapter 15 it was decided that Gentiles were still saved without all the laws of the Jews (some in verses 8 through 9). He brings up circumcision being one of the laws in Leviticus and that Paul says in Galatians 6:15 "For in Christ Jesus neither Circumcision avail etch any thing, nor un circumcision, but a new creature."
Colossians 2:13-14 (KJV)- "And you, behind dead in your sins and uncircumcision of your flesh, has He quickened together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of Ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His Cross."
Romans 10:4 (KJV)- "For Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousness to everyone who believes."
Hebrews 8:13 (KJV)- "In that He said, A New Covenant, He has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away."
These verses free Christians of the old law that was at first for the Israelites. He says that some Christians don't apply the laws of Leviticus to their lives at all because of this. His example is in Leviticus 11 when it speaks of eating pork, shrimp, and lobster being an abomination, Leviticus 19 forbids planting 2 kinds of seed in the same field, wearing clothing woven of 2 different kinds of material, and cutting hair on the sides of one's head. Leviticus 19 also speaks of not approaching a woman during the unclean news or her monthly period which is also called an abomination.
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 speaks against homosexuality and 18 and 20 prohibit adultery incest and beastiality also. These things are still seen as sinful, but Leviticus 19 is not seen as sinful when it was also called an abomination. He says anything called an abomination then can't be any better now. That includes everything that was called an abomination, even homosexuality. He defines "abomination" as something that is foreign to the Israelites. Something that the others may do, but they do not do the same such as these two verses:Genesis 43:32 (KJV)- "And they set on for himself by himself, and for them by themselves and for the Egyptians, which did eat with him, by themselves: because the Egyptian might not eat bread with the Hebrews; for that is an abomination unto the Egyptians" and Exodus 8:26 (KJV)- "And Moses said, It is not meet to do so; for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?" He says that abomination does not have to do with what is good or bad, but those things that the Israelites do not do that are foreign. Things such as disobeying your parents and the priests daughter being a prostitute results in death. Working on the Sabbath was also a capital offense. He follows up by saying that just because something in the Bible results in the death penalty doesn't mean it is sinful.
This is just a thorough review of HALF of his message. It took a rather long time to write and hopefully this is enough for you to get a better idea of his thinking because I'm going tell the truth, I got tired of typing and just this chunk took me HOURS and this is just half. Multiply that time times two and I will be up forever typing it, but if you wish to get a summary of the second half I am willing to do so. I also apologize for any typos or spelling errors that occur.
Also my friend is Christian, but her family is not as strict about some things like mine is.
Says that "homosexuals are seen as lustful sexual beings." He also says that heterosexual people fall in love, get married, and have children while homosexuals just "have sex." He argues that homosexuality "is not just about sex" and that "having a sexual orientation allows one to fall in love with someone and have a long committed relationship with them and to form a family."
Says the quality of homosexual love is equal to the quality of heterosexual love.
Matthew 7:17-18 (KJV)- "Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit."
Argues that, according to Jesus, all good teaches have good consequences and all bad teachings have bad consequences. Says that "Even difficult teachings are not destructive to human dignity." Says that teaching that homosexuality is wrong results in low self-esteem, emotional and spiritual devastation, and low self-worth for those that are homosexual. He says that these are the consequences of being homosexual. Says that this teaching has not born good fruit in the lives of homosexuals and has only caused pain and suffering for them. He says if we take Jesus' teaching seriously then we would question the traditional teachings that homosexuality is wrong.
Genesis 2:18 (KJV)-"And The Lord God said, It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him."
Argues that woman is a suitable partner for most men, but that is not the case for gay men. The suitable partner for gay men is another gay man. Says that by the traditional teaching they must live alone their whole lives even if they have a "suitable partner." He is saying that God said it is not good for man to be alone when this teaching makes homosexual men alone. He says that by holding to the traditional interpretation that we are contradicting the Bible's own teachings.
Genesis 19:4-8 (KJV)-"But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men who came in to you this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do you to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these Men do nothing; for therefore came They under the shadow of my roof."
Argues that Sodom and Gomorrah originally had nothing to do with sexuality at all. He says that in the Middle Ages it began to be believed that the sin that caused Sodom and Gomorrah to be destroyed was homosexuality. (sodomy: any non procreative sexual behavior) He says that the men calling to Lot to have sex with the men with him (Lot) is the only connection that homosexuality has to this passage. He says that gang rape and homosexuality are different. He says that "gang rape of men by men was used as a common tactic of humiliation and aggression in warfare and other hostile contexts in ancient times. It had nothing to do with sexual orientation and attraction. The point was to shame and to conquer. That is the appropriate background for reading this in Genesis 19." Says that the Bible never links what they did to homosexuality.
Ezekiel 16:49 (KJV)-"Behold, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
Says only 1 of those 20 verses related to Sodom and Gomorrah throughout the Bible is about sexuality.
Jude 7 (KJV)-"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
I am not sure if it is because he uses a different translation of the Bible, but when he speaks of Jude 7 he does not speak of the part that says "and going after strange flesh, are set forth an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire" he stops at fornication and says that whatever fornication that was committed could be any form, not just homosexuality. This I find odd.
Leviticus 18 contains a list of sexual prohibitions and chapter 20 contains the list of punishments. "In these chapters male same sex intercourse is prohibited and the punishment for violators is death." (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13 (KJV)- "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination; If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Says that since it is Old Testament law that it is not meant for Christians. As Gentiles were being including for the very first time in the New Testament it was argued if Gentile converts should have to follow the law. In Acts chapter 15 it was decided that Gentiles were still saved without all the laws of the Jews (some in verses 8 through 9). He brings up circumcision being one of the laws in Leviticus and that Paul says in Galatians 6:15 "For in Christ Jesus neither Circumcision avail etch any thing, nor un circumcision, but a new creature."
Colossians 2:13-14 (KJV)- "And you, behind dead in your sins and uncircumcision of your flesh, has He quickened together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of Ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to His Cross."
Romans 10:4 (KJV)- "For Christ is the end of the Law for Righteousness to everyone who believes."
Hebrews 8:13 (KJV)- "In that He said, A New Covenant, He has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away."
These verses free Christians of the old law that was at first for the Israelites. He says that some Christians don't apply the laws of Leviticus to their lives at all because of this. His example is in Leviticus 11 when it speaks of eating pork, shrimp, and lobster being an abomination, Leviticus 19 forbids planting 2 kinds of seed in the same field, wearing clothing woven of 2 different kinds of material, and cutting hair on the sides of one's head. Leviticus 19 also speaks of not approaching a woman during the unclean news or her monthly period which is also called an abomination.
Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 speaks against homosexuality and 18 and 20 prohibit adultery incest and beastiality also. These things are still seen as sinful, but Leviticus 19 is not seen as sinful when it was also called an abomination. He says anything called an abomination then can't be any better now. That includes everything that was called an abomination, even homosexuality. He defines "abomination" as something that is foreign to the Israelites. Something that the others may do, but they do not do the same such as these two verses:Genesis 43:32 (KJV)- "And they set on for himself by himself, and for them by themselves and for the Egyptians, which did eat with him, by themselves: because the Egyptian might not eat bread with the Hebrews; for that is an abomination unto the Egyptians" and Exodus 8:26 (KJV)- "And Moses said, It is not meet to do so; for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?" He says that abomination does not have to do with what is good or bad, but those things that the Israelites do not do that are foreign. Things such as disobeying your parents and the priests daughter being a prostitute results in death. Working on the Sabbath was also a capital offense. He follows up by saying that just because something in the Bible results in the death penalty doesn't mean it is sinful.
This is just a thorough review of HALF of his message. It took a rather long time to write and hopefully this is enough for you to get a better idea of his thinking because I'm going tell the truth, I got tired of typing and just this chunk took me HOURS and this is just half. Multiply that time times two and I will be up forever typing it, but if you wish to get a summary of the second half I am willing to do so. I also apologize for any typos or spelling errors that occur.
Also my friend is Christian, but her family is not as strict about some things like mine is.
