Wormwood
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Quantril,
It seems you didn't read the quotes from the commentaries I provided. If you had it would have answered your questions about smoothness of the proposed reading.
[SIZE=medium]Your comment about scholarship is unfortunate. To blow off people who spend their entire lives studying the Scriptures as "a dime a dozen" because they don't agree with your presuppositions makes it clear that there is no point in having this discussion.[/SIZE]
DaDad,
Hmmm. I'm afraid you have gone way out of any type of hermeneutical approach that I am comfortable with. Interpreting Scriptures by combining numerology with date forecasting is not a responsible interpretive method in my opinion. I have seen these methods in all kinds of predictive Bible code attempts that fall flat. I find these codes undermine any serious study of what the text actually says in efforts to piecemeal numbers and formulas from the Bible to conveniently bring us to modern day events in Israel for the purpose of predicting the Second Coming. Here are some brief problems I see with your "navigator."
1. Daniel wrote his prophecy when Israel was in exile. The "rebuilding" that was being spoken of is clearly speaking of that which he and all Israel in that day was looking forward to and had been promised after the 70 year exile in Babylon. To leapfrog that by jumping over to the Psalms to apply a year to book ratio that lands us at 1948 is to rip the prophecy completely out of its immediate context.
2. The incarnation and the cross of Christ is the most significant event in human history that dealt with sin and ushered in the righteousness of God and the Kingdom of God. Jesus said that ALL of the law and prophets pointed to him. According to you, Daniel does not..but rather to 1948. It is mindboggling to me to think that Daniel's prophecy of God providing righteousness to his people and eliminating their sin would have nothing to do with Jesus.
3. Worst of all is this wild attempt to tie books to centuries and chapters to years is just another wild attempt to find ways to make the Bible a code book to predict events. The message of the Bible is found in its words, not in its chapter and verse numerology (which are anything but standard).
I simply am not interested in scouring the Bible for number codes in a desperate attempt to match them to significant current events. It may sell some books to a prophecy hungry public, but does nothing for those who seek to understand the actual meaning of Daniel or the Psalms. There have been a host of other attempts (88 reasons Jesus will return in 1988, etc.) and all make Christians look foolish and make a mockery out of the Bible.
It seems you didn't read the quotes from the commentaries I provided. If you had it would have answered your questions about smoothness of the proposed reading.
[SIZE=medium]Again, it seems you are back at the "its already there so its supposed to be there." Again, that depends on the Bible (or manuscript). If we view early manuscripts as "Bibles" then the early Bibles did not have this text. In fact, some manuscripts have the story in Luke's Gospel rather than John's. I have no doubt the event took place. I just don't think it is original to John's Gospel. [/SIZE]1. Many of the oldest and best manuscripts of John do not have this text and proceed seamlessly from 7:52 to 8:12.
[SIZE=medium] 2. Among those manuscripts that do have 7:53–8:11, some have it at different locations, including after 7:36, after 7:44, after 21:25, or even after Luke 21:38[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Your comment about scholarship is unfortunate. To blow off people who spend their entire lives studying the Scriptures as "a dime a dozen" because they don't agree with your presuppositions makes it clear that there is no point in having this discussion.[/SIZE]
DaDad,
Hmmm. I'm afraid you have gone way out of any type of hermeneutical approach that I am comfortable with. Interpreting Scriptures by combining numerology with date forecasting is not a responsible interpretive method in my opinion. I have seen these methods in all kinds of predictive Bible code attempts that fall flat. I find these codes undermine any serious study of what the text actually says in efforts to piecemeal numbers and formulas from the Bible to conveniently bring us to modern day events in Israel for the purpose of predicting the Second Coming. Here are some brief problems I see with your "navigator."
1. Daniel wrote his prophecy when Israel was in exile. The "rebuilding" that was being spoken of is clearly speaking of that which he and all Israel in that day was looking forward to and had been promised after the 70 year exile in Babylon. To leapfrog that by jumping over to the Psalms to apply a year to book ratio that lands us at 1948 is to rip the prophecy completely out of its immediate context.
2. The incarnation and the cross of Christ is the most significant event in human history that dealt with sin and ushered in the righteousness of God and the Kingdom of God. Jesus said that ALL of the law and prophets pointed to him. According to you, Daniel does not..but rather to 1948. It is mindboggling to me to think that Daniel's prophecy of God providing righteousness to his people and eliminating their sin would have nothing to do with Jesus.
3. Worst of all is this wild attempt to tie books to centuries and chapters to years is just another wild attempt to find ways to make the Bible a code book to predict events. The message of the Bible is found in its words, not in its chapter and verse numerology (which are anything but standard).
I simply am not interested in scouring the Bible for number codes in a desperate attempt to match them to significant current events. It may sell some books to a prophecy hungry public, but does nothing for those who seek to understand the actual meaning of Daniel or the Psalms. There have been a host of other attempts (88 reasons Jesus will return in 1988, etc.) and all make Christians look foolish and make a mockery out of the Bible.