Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour!

brightfame52 said:

You fighting against the truth

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its not me stopping anyone from speaking and preaching the one true gospel .
YOU KNOW
the one that says FOR IF YOU WILL BELEIVE , oh man there is that word again , BELIEVE
that GOD has rose him from the dead and will confess him by mouth
YE SHALL be , wait for it ................................wait for it ........SAVED .
IT AINT ME CALLING THAT A LIE . ITS YOU . ITS YOU . And you probably dont mean to silence the gospel
BUT YOU ACTUALLY ARE SILENCING IT . you do not know how to explain it right .

brightfame52 said:

You cant see nor understand the truth

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Because i say ONE MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS to be saved
You are telling me that i do not see nor understand the truth .
WELL bud , IT Aint just me you are telling this to .
Now brace yourself . YOU are saying that and would ahve said it TO PUAL
to the apostels and now for the scariest of all , TO EVEN JESUS HIMSELF WHO SAID
AND I QUOTE
IF YOU BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE you will die in your sins . MAN you need a serious wake up call
and a check up f rom the neck up .
THEY ALL SAID THIS . THEY DIDNT GO aroudn T RYING TO SHUT the mouths of all that said ye must bleieve
THEY SAID YE MUST BELEIVE .
But you SAY i dont see or underst and the truth . WELL you just told JESUS and the apostels THEY DONT EITHER .
YOu have no idea HOW to explain what you mean and rather through a serious lack of knowledge
YOU work contrary to those who DO SPEAK the very gospel .
YOU KNOW this one .
THE GOSPEL BY WHICH YOU WERE SAVED , AFTER YOU BELEIVED . YOu know THAT ONE .
You do not know how to explain what you are trying to say .
SO ALLOW ME TO SAY IT FOR YOU .
NO MAN can COME TO ME LEST THE FATHER DRAWS HIM . HELLO i KNOW that .
BUT that dont mean SAYING ONE MUST BLEIEVE ON HIM TO BE SAVED is IN ANY WAY ERROR . hello .
T ry and learn the truth so you can actually speak it and not fight against it .

brightfame52 said:

You not able to believe the truth

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you mean this truth .
THAT IF YOU WILL BELEIVE from the heart that GOD has rose him from the dead
and will confess him by mouth YE SHALL be saved . NO , I DO BELIEVE THAT .
the question is WHY DO YOU AT TACK IT . why do you attack folks who say YOU MUST BELEIvE IN HIM .
AND ps i already told YOU very clearly THAT I ALREADY KNOW GOD DRAWS US TO CHRIST .
IN fact here is another reminder i know
THAT NO MAN CAN EVEN CALL HIM LORD but BY THE SPIRIT . But you sure dont see me using the TRUTH
to ATTACK those WHO SPEAK THE TRUTH which tells and reminds all OF THE FACT THEY MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
SO , SLEEP ON THAT .

brightfame52 said:

You cant understand the saving value of Christs Death.

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as if that were true .
yeah rather you dont seem to undersetand that THIS SAVOIR of the world
SAID HIMSELF YE MUST BELEIVE to be saved . OOPSY
was JESUS NOT TRUSTING IN HIS OWN ABILITY to save . YEAH DIDNT THINK SO
You got this all messed up .
Oh dear
Oh no
Oh my goodness . I MUST be talking to a univeraslist of some sorts .
ONLY an inclusivian would speak as you do .
Now tell me quickly are you following in any way anything of universalisms inclsivism .
if so flee IT NOW , FLEE IT NOW and never look back .
I sure hope you aint one of them that beleive in the end even satan and etc will be saved .
Not saying you are , but just h oping ya aint .
PREACH TO THE LIVING THE DIRE NEED RIGHT NOW to repent and BELIEVE ON JESUS .
FOcuS ON THAT . I KNOW HE SAVES . as far as ecumeincal intefaith , I KNOW IT DAMNS ALL .
So lets not go into that arena at all .

brightfame52 said:

It is true

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bright fame . O bright fame .
Lets ask some questions shall we .
WHAT do you think about this ecumeincal interfaith that the POPES lead in and TRUMP and the nar realm do the working of it .
DO you hope in men . in biden , harris , or trump n vance .
WHAT do you think about this abraham peace accords .
LETS just start with those three questions . CAUSE ol aimgo has a real real bad feeling my friend .
SO now i must ask you . WHAT DO YOU THINK about those things . DO explain .

amigo de christo said:

as if that were true .
yeah rather you dont seem to undersetand that THIS SAVOIR of the world
SAID HIMSELF YE MUST BELEIVE to be saved . OOPSY
was JESUS NOT TRUSTING IN HIS OWN ABILITY to save . YEAH DIDNT THINK SO
You got this all messed up .
Oh dear
Oh no
Oh my goodness . I MUST be talking to a univeraslist of some sorts .
ONLY an inclusivian would speak as you do .
Now tell me quickly are you following in any way anything of universalisms inclsivism .
if so flee IT NOW , FLEE IT NOW and never look back .
I sure hope you aint one of them that beleive in the end even satan and etc will be saved .
Not saying you are , but just h oping ya aint .
PREACH TO THE LIVING THE DIRE NEED RIGHT NOW to repent and BELIEVE ON JESUS .
FOcuS ON THAT . I KNOW HE SAVES . as far as ecumeincal intefaith , I KNOW IT DAMNS ALL .
So let’s not go into that arena at all .

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brightfame52 said:

But its not odd you cant understand truth

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You never supply scirputre BF.
When you don't post scripture, it's just you posting your opinion.

brightfame52 said:

You fighting against the truth

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BF
Calvinism has distorted the truth.

THIS is the truth:

1 Timothy 2:3-4
3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The truth:

John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.


Romans 10:13
13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."


WHOSOEVER calls on the name of the Lord WILL be saved.

WHOSOEVER.

GodsGrace said:

BF
Calvinism has distorted the truth.

THIS is the truth:

1 Timothy 2:3-4
3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The truth:

John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.


Romans 10:13
13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."


WHOSOEVER calls on the name of the Lord WILL be saved.

WHOSOEVER.

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And what is the commandment of GOD . What did john write .
To BELIEVE on the LORD JESUS CHRIST and to love one another .
IF this guy would go around and count the number of times they used the word BELEIVE
as in YE MUST beleive in Christ , well its a real high number .
He does not know and understand that the way he learned what he did
Has messed him up badly . Not to mention i dont see him responding to a certain three questions .
I believe many now beleive in a form of something that is total bad news . It will and it has been silencing
THE ONE DIRE NECESSARY GOSPEL . the very gospel is being made void
Under a superstitious mindset , under a lie . that lie will save none .
WE were supposed to have preached the gospel TO THE VERY END
But something very dark and sinistir has in large crept in and by its working is not only silencing the preaching of the gospel
But is making all to beleive a lie .
JOHN knew what he was writing about . but many no longer beleive his words , or even words of Jesus and the other apostels .
So here it is
THOSE who are OF GOD HEAR US and those who are not of GOD do not hear us . AS IN THE GOSPEL YE MUST BELEIVE .
But this is NOT what many beleive any longer . THEY are believing something else .
A LIE . that implies ALL RELIGOINS are coming to GOD differently . NOW JOHN would have called that A LIE
a working of anti christ . THEY CALL IT LOVE and THINK ITS GOD and his big path of love . BAD NEWS FOLKS .
WE cannot cling to both BELIEF and UNBELIEF or really It was unbelief all along .

brightfame52 said:

Law keeping salvation is being taught here, commandment keeping.

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Wow , they really duped you friend .
SO now TELLING FOLKS YE MUST BELEIVE ON JESUS , IS LAW KEEPING . WOW .
you are decieved . POINTING TO CHRIST is NOT LEGALISM .
You all go decieved real b ad . What you dont realize is Those who dont and wont POINT to CHIRST
are obvsiously the ones going about to SOMEHOW earn and attain their righteousness .
And many now use the word love to do just that . ALL ya need is love
AND YET they darn sure dont THINK YA NEED TO BELEIVE ON JESUS to be saved . WHICH means
even what THEY THINK is love is nothing more than a means to attain salvation and righteousenss , APART FROM CHRIST .
You are being decieved . You want so bad to BELIEVE in this universalsim that you NOW even attack
those who say YE MUST BELEIVE IN CHRIST to be saved . YOU my friend need to see the error of your ways and fast .
Cause what YOU beleive and what YOU SEE as truth , HAS YOU COMING after those who preach the gospel .
YOU KNOW
THE ONE THAT CLEARLY STATES
That if YOU WILL BELIEVE in your heart that GOD rose him from the dead and shall confess him by m outh , YE SHALL
BE SAVED .
What on earth would you have told paul and silas when the answer the jailor .
This jailor . Who said , SIRS what must I DO to be saved . Good thing you were not there
cause that jailor had heard calivin and NOT THE GOSPEL .
Wake up and stop , cease and dissest your attacks upon the very gospel of JESUS CHRIST . you better do so fast .

brightfame52 said:

That means you not one of my sheep I died for Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

So of course if He didnt die for your sins, the only alternative is you will die in your sins

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yep , twisting yet again .
You clearly quoate twenty six
But LOOK again at what JESUS said . If you BELEIVE NOT you will die in your sins .
You would have told jesus , HEY DUDE , lets expliain this NOT BY SAYING you NEED TO BELEIVE
but by what calivn told us . cause calivin is wiser than YOU .
HE knows how to get it accross . AND YET ALL THE WHILE
by your ways
HERE would be the g ospel yall allowed . Your new law . DONT SAY ANYONE HAS TO BELEIVE ON JESUS TO BE SAVED
and DONT TELL ANYONE if they BELIEVE NOT they will be damned . CAUSE BELEIF IS LEGALISM
PREACHING YE MUST BELIEVE IS LEGALISM .
Boy you have no idea the very god you are pleasing with that message . The god that desires THE DEATH of all
so he convinces folks OH ye need not beleive .
Friend that one is the devil . ONLY the devil would convince one
that the PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL is LEGALISM .