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John 8:
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
The interpretation of Phil 2: 1 -11 - in proper context and theme
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John 8:
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Yes, of course. I fully agree with that verse. Your previous post is still very close to teaching the heresy of Docetism.
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If someone tells you something that you don't have a clue about, then you should look it up. There is no excuse for ignorance these days with so much information at our fingertips.
"Docetism was an early Christian heresy that promoted a false view of Jesus’ humanity. The word Docetism comes from the Greek dokein, which meant “to seem”; according to Docetism, Jesus Christ only seemed to have a human body like ours."
What is Docetism? | GotQuestions.org
You previously stated: "God having the POWER TO Appear “as” a man, does NOT MAKE God a HUMAN man."
But Jesus didn't merely appear as a man, he was fully and truly human.
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Flattening out the carefully constructed doctrines of Nicaea and Chalcedon into "Jesus is God" does Christianity a great disservice and leads believers into the heresies of docetism (Jesus only appeared to be human) and modalism (blurring the distinction between Father and Son).
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First, you need to explain what you mean by "God".
In the verses under consideration, the author identifies Jesus as distinct from "God", yet beginning with the same morphe but not being equal; and later adds the modifier "God the Father" to distinguish Him from Jesus.
The Nicene Fathers for all extents and purposes defined "God" to be the ousia shared by the three hypostases of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Take your time....
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Do you believe Jesus is God… doesn’t require a diversion to some THEME you are presenting.
The Question is Direct.
The Question applies “specifically “ To YOUR Belief.
Are YOU “not capable” of Being Honest and Answering a “Yes or No” Question… With a “Yes or No” Answer?
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God…
An Invisible Spirit Being, (without Beginning or Ending) Creator AND Maker, of All Living Things…
AND Identified by the revealed term…
Lord God Almighty, FIVE express times.
In consideration of the Lord God Almighty, Spirit Creator And Maker of ALL Living things…
There is an Abundance of things He CAN Do…
And a FEW things He Can NOT Do.
* He can NOT become the Created.
Everything that is IN God, OF God, IS God.
* Gods BODY is God.
* Gods SOUL is God.
* Gods SPIRIT is God.
* Gods WORD is God.
* Gods POWER is God.
Gods, body, soul, spirit, word, power… IS ALWAYS IN and OF God… IS God…
“REGARDLESS”… if He … sends One of His 7 Spirits, His Word, His Authorized Power To another…being…or another Place.
Having Learned…
God Named…
His Word… Jesus
His High Priest Title and Name… Lord Jesus
His Almighty Power, Title…Christ
His Powerful SEED, Title…Christ
His Declaration…The Titler Holder , Christ the Lord, IS Jesus
His Declaration…He would Purpose IN Himself… a Prepared Body, For His Word, in the LIKENESS “AS” a human Man…To come to Earth, To teach and Preach Face to Face… with stubborn, stiffnecked, doubtful, lost, ignorant human men…
His Declaration… That He whom human men would Encounter such prepared Body, Face to Face…
Would Call Him…
First.. the Son of Man…
Secondly…the Son of God..
Thirdly…the Lord God Almighty.
Human men Learn in knowledge Little by Little, Bit by Bit…
If you, a human man…
Are in which ever Point in learning…
Calling God … ( creator and maker )…
the Son of Man…
Or
the Son of God…
Or
the Lord God Almighty…
It simply reveals you have NOT YET progressed to the Full extent of WHO the Fullness / wholeness of God IS.
Consider The Voice of God Himself Addressing the ONE, He first called, the Son of man, then the Son of God….
And Then…
Heb 1:
[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Confidant … God the Father and God the Son are One and the Same One Lord God Almighty…
The Son, Jesus, declared the Same…
John 10:
[30] I and MY father ARE one.
ONE What? Human? Or One Eternal Creator and Maker of all living things?
Glory to God,
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I'm being completely honest. Read my post which I linked to; the answer is there. There is no need to ask a question for which an answer has already been given.
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Jesus was begotten, not "created". Says so right in the Bible and affirmed by the Nicene creed:
For to what angel did God ever say, "Thou art my Son, today I have begotten thee"? Or again, "I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son"? (Hebrews 1:5; see also Acts 13:33 and Hebrews 5:5.)
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I did not ask for a Theme. Your Agreement with anything.
I asked YOU…
Do YOU believe Jesus is God?
Obviously you require giving me some Theme or an others view… since you are not capable of speaking FOR YOURSELF.
Weird.
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And? I did not say otherwise.
The Question was …
Do YOU believe Jesus is God.
Do you have in your word, Simple yes or No
Answer?
No, what’s weird is that I provided a link to my post that provides the answer to your question before you even asked it and you’re determined to not click the link. Links aren’t there just to read what the link itself says, but to lead you somewhere else, to something else.
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What is really weird is you avoid a yes or no answer and instead use 52 words that do not answer the Question.
Not that I believe a word of your so-called 'fathers,' as ever being scriptural, or even spiritually alive in Christ, however I just want to point out that your last statement is a little inaccurate. You might want to revise it.
The claim that the Nicene Fathers defined "God" as the ousia shared by three hypostases is accurate regarding later Trinitarian orthodoxy but historically contested regarding the earliest councils and figures. While your Nicene Creed (325 AD) established that the Son is homoousios (of the same substance) with the Father, the precise distinction between ousia (essence) and hypostasis (person/reality) was not fully formulated until the late 4th century by the Cappadocian Fathers, not these original Nicene 'Fathers.'
And this is but only a part of this false religious system of false doctrines incubated and strongly promoted and motivated by social-political forces that grew to counter the true primitive form of Christianity, whether realized at the time or not. And it took over 500 years into the mid- the 7th century, to finally mature or stabilize into 'what' type of visible, common and predominate religion that replaced the original primitive scriptural form of Christianity, that is present today in nearly all Western Trinitarian churches.
And I believe and support, that no biblical verses define God as three persons sharing one being, and that the early Ante-Nicene Fathers often viewed the Father as the only true God while regarding the Son as a derived or subordinate divine being. Scripture solidly supports this view of course, and so I side with it. There's no need to invent a god-man or superman, Yeshua was already conceived from above, the 2nd Adam, became the Son of God and his Messiah. So I wonder why some of these 'fathers' thought to believe and counter scripture and voiced he must also be god; a very destructive and extreme view of the nature of God and his Son. Maybe, as people today, they lack the faith and do not believe that God was in his Son operating within him since his anointing as the Messiah.
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