Creationism in science class rooms
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aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
well, the average European who wouldnt be found dead darkening the door of a church, knows more about religion than the majority ofAmerican adults who claim to know God. Europeans study religion in school
What should be taught in a Science class:
It is a violation of the rules of Science to require empirical data and scientific theories to conform to the words of a religious text.
It is a violation of the rules of Science to require empirical data and scientific theories to conform to the words of a religious text.
I don't know about in science classes because then it would make a lot of the nonsense scientists have made up null and void. The truth needs to be taught though in some kind of class. A lot of what science teaches are lies from the pits of hell. Decaying our society
My thought is this. The real question should be, 'Should they teach evloution in class rooms'? Which they do. And everywhere else.
We as Chrsitians would not be so adamant about teaching the Creation story as told in the Bible, if our Godless society was not so adamant about teaching the lie of evolution to our children in the classrooms and every where else.
Evolution is but the faith of science. Thus if they are going to insist on teaching that lie then we must insist on teaching our faith in the Creation story as recorded in Genesis.
Quantrill
We as Chrsitians would not be so adamant about teaching the Creation story as told in the Bible, if our Godless society was not so adamant about teaching the lie of evolution to our children in the classrooms and every where else.
Evolution is but the faith of science. Thus if they are going to insist on teaching that lie then we must insist on teaching our faith in the Creation story as recorded in Genesis.
Quantrill
There is nothing wrong with concluding that the evidence points to a creator from a realm not limited by the laws of physics. Who that creator is, is a discussion for theology class.
Some colourful language in my native tongue comes to mind that will probably get me a warning...so I will just say... nonsense!snr5557 said:
"Just a quick note, evolution itself is not a "faith" but what science has found to be the most accurate theory of how we got all of these different species etc. What you are saying is the equivalent of saying that the theory of gravity is a hindu or the theory of relativity is catholic."
What science found was a lie from the pits of hell. What do you think about that snr? If they didn't find that God created the earth they wrong.
What science found was a lie from the pits of hell. What do you think about that snr? If they didn't find that God created the earth they wrong.
It is a faith of science. It is what they believe. And they work hard to try and support their belief. And then call it theory, and treat it as fact. And then teach it to our children as fact. Which is why we need to teach the Gensis account of Creation in schools.snr5557 said:
Quantrill
In the US, we were deliberately set up as a secular democratic republic. So if the government (in the form of public schools) were to include one religion's creation story in its teachings, it would have to include all religions' creation stories. Obviously that would be a mess. The only way you could limit it to just one religion's story is to essentially replace our current form of government with a theocracy.
From a scientific perspective, creationism and creationist arguments aren't included in science classrooms because they're wrong, and oftentimes deliberately deceitful.
From a scientific perspective, creationism and creationist arguments aren't included in science classrooms because they're wrong, and oftentimes deliberately deceitful.
Hi,
I'm not sure why people are parsing "evolution" and "creation". Shouldn't the issue be "history"? And if "history", then TRUTH?
I see many instances of hidden agendas in the secular world, but Scripture seems to be foundational. As such I would think that intelligent individuals might start there.
With Best Regards,
DaDad
I'm not sure why people are parsing "evolution" and "creation". Shouldn't the issue be "history"? And if "history", then TRUTH?
I see many instances of hidden agendas in the secular world, but Scripture seems to be foundational. As such I would think that intelligent individuals might start there.
With Best Regards,
DaDad
aspen
“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Creationism is part of the Judeo-Christian narrative - Evolution is part of the scientific narrative - I am not sure why people seem to be shocked and upset that evolution is being taught in science class, when it is foundational to science! Where else is evolution going to be talked about - right or wrong it is an idea that belongs to science. It is like some Christians have decided that they are the keepers of truth and are trying to mix and match ideas......taking the truth of science (those ideas that do not threaten the truth of their Christian beliefs), and mixing it with Christianity and declaring it to be science - yet, not recognizing that this approach is not rational outside Christian culture. Ironically, the same Christians freak out when elements of Eastern religion like rekki and yoga are mixed into Christianity - why is it so crazy to see that scientists have a desire for the same sort of integrity for their discipline? Seems like another case of swimming in toilets and peeing in swimming pools, to me.
Last time I checked, the disciple of science does not need to accept Jesus as it's Lord and Savior.......an idea just as silly as declaring war on a concept like terror....
Finally, in our multicultural, secular society Christians no longer get to decide what it truth for the rest of the culture - we don't get to Christianize intellectual disciples and declare it to be absolute truth. Sorry.
Last time I checked, the disciple of science does not need to accept Jesus as it's Lord and Savior.......an idea just as silly as declaring war on a concept like terror....
Finally, in our multicultural, secular society Christians no longer get to decide what it truth for the rest of the culture - we don't get to Christianize intellectual disciples and declare it to be absolute truth. Sorry.
It's always seemed pretty simple to me....
Creationism isn't taught in science classes because it's not science, and the vast majority of the scientific community agrees.
Evolution is taught in science classes because it is science, and the vast majority of the scientific community agrees that it is valid.
Therefore, it seems intuitive what we do and don't teach in science classes. If creationists want to change that, then they need to convince the scientific community that creationism is scientifically valid and evolution isn't. If they can't do that, then there's no reason to change.
Creationism isn't taught in science classes because it's not science, and the vast majority of the scientific community agrees.
Evolution is taught in science classes because it is science, and the vast majority of the scientific community agrees that it is valid.
Therefore, it seems intuitive what we do and don't teach in science classes. If creationists want to change that, then they need to convince the scientific community that creationism is scientifically valid and evolution isn't. If they can't do that, then there's no reason to change.
Dig deep into evolutionary theory and the foundation amounts to .... the whole universe , including earth and all life on earth , began with nothing , and then became everything by random chance over billions of years.
Anyone here believe that ?
Anyone here believe that ?
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