SOME MORE CORRUPTED VERSES

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Doug

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Here are some more attacks on Christ by the NIV

[Ephesians 3:9 KJV] "And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
[Ephesians 3:9 NIV] "and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things." *********** Jesus Christ is removed as being creator.

[Acts 16:31 KJV] "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
[Acts 16:31 NIV] "They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved--you and your household."" ********** Christ is removed

[Matthew 8:29 KJV] "And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"
[Matthew 8:29 NIV] ""What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"" ************ Jesus is removed from being the Son of God

[Matthew 18:11 KJV] "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
[Matthew 18:11 NIV] "" ********* this verse is omitted. Jesus as savior is removed
 

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Here are some more attacks on Christ by the NIV

[Ephesians 3:9 KJV] "And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
[Ephesians 3:9 NIV] "and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things." *********** Jesus Christ is removed as being creator.

[Acts 16:31 KJV] "And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."
[Acts 16:31 NIV] "They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved--you and your household."" ********** Christ is removed

[Matthew 8:29 KJV] "And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"
[Matthew 8:29 NIV] ""What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"" ************ Jesus is removed from being the Son of God

[Matthew 18:11 KJV] "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
[Matthew 18:11 NIV] "" ********* this verse is omitted. Jesus as savior is removed
All these "perversions" as you would think them are based on on eof the following:

1. the vers was not found in older manuscripts than those used for the textus receptus.
2. It was not even found in the manuscript evidence for the textus receptus.
3. the derivation was due to it beong whjat was found in the preponderance of manuscripts.

What you need to do is prve that the manuscripts you have accused are in fact evil manuscripts.
 

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All these "perversions" as you would think them are based on on eof the following:

1. the vers was not found in older manuscripts than those used for the textus receptus.
2. It was not even found in the manuscript evidence for the textus receptus.
3. the derivation was due to it beong whjat was found in the preponderance of manuscripts.

What you need to do is prve that the manuscripts you have accused are in fact evil manuscripts.
1. Usually, unlikely
2. Byzantine variants are often found in different TR years.
3. It is easy enough to make an exact copy.

Many codexes with capital letters are a fraud. And copies of the LXX do exist without them.
 

Ronald Nolette

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1. Usually, unlikely
2. Byzantine variants are often found in different TR years.
3. It is easy enough to make an exact copy.

Many codexes with capital letters are a fraud. And copies of the LXX do exist without them.
Well the LXX is the OT.

I have had 1 year of biblical histoic studies. I am a huge fan of the KJV, but I also know that most of the older mss have differences with the TR.


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Earliest Known Capital-Letter Bible Manuscripts​

The oldest surviving capital-letter (majuscule/uncial) Bible manuscripts date from the late 1st to early 2nd centuries AD, with some examples as early as the 2nd century and a few possibly from the late 1st century Wikipedia+1.

What “capital-letter” means​

In biblical manuscript studies, uncial (Greek) or majuscule (Latin) refers to a script written entirely in capital letters, used for important texts like the Bible. This style was developed for parchment and vellum, replacing earlier papyrus scripts Wikipedia.
 

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There is no proof to assert that the older manuscripts are more reliable
Its arbitrary to decide what verse should be included /changed/ or omitted.
Its arbitrary to decide what words did or didnt speak
Something wasnt found in the KJV because it wasnt supported by other texts
There are thousands of manuscripts with 1% variations among them to support the KJV
1. there is no proof that newer manuscripts are more accurate.
2. It is not arbitrary. All verses that appear in MSS should be included
3. Now you are being foolish. it si not arbitrary . If a word does not appear, it wwas not written
4. That is totally incorrect.
5. Name 10 of these manuscripts with 1% variation that support the KJV. For those same mnauscripts also support the other literal translations of the NT into English.

You need to learn the difference between the different translations.
 

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Earliest Known Capital-Letter Bible Manuscripts​

The oldest surviving capital-letter (majuscule/uncial) Bible manuscripts date from the late 1st to early 2nd centuries AD, with some examples as early as the 2nd century and a few possibly from the late 1st century Wikipedia+1.
How were they dated? Radiometric dating was not used.
 

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From history, writing styles and other clues you can look up as quickly as I can.
Cursive seems to be proven to be just as old. Some antique-forgerist could have easily put Late Greek capitals on know Greek monuments. I suspect the capitals are a special Egyptian script of Greek with consonantal iota missing.

Admit it. The Uncials look like forgeries which are not radicometricly dated.
 

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Cursive seems to be proven to be just as old. Some antique-forgerist could have easily put Late Greek capitals on know Greek monuments. I suspect the capitals are a special Egyptian script of Greek with consonantal iota missing.

Admit it. The Uncials look like forgeries which are not radicometricly dated.
The uncials are what we have! And if you wish to make cliams, please support them and not just vomit them out without some empirical evidence. I could say that the mss were written by men from mars as well!
 

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The uncials are what we have! And if you wish to make cliams, please support them and not just vomit them out without some empirical evidence. I could say that the mss were written by men from mars as well!
We would still cursive manuscripts and lectionaries. How does the longer ending get accidentally forgotten from a Coptic scripted manuscript.
 

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All these "perversions" as you would think them are based on on eof the following:

1. the vers was not found in older manuscripts than those used for the textus receptus.
2. It was not even found in the manuscript evidence for the textus receptus.
3. the derivation was due to it beong whjat was found in the preponderance of manuscripts.

What you need to do is prve that the manuscripts you have accused are in fact evil manuscripts.
I think it's pretty obvious when you remove words like " Jesus Christ" from the verse.
 
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Again... This can imply the whole scripture as bad. I am going to close it. If you want to start another thread please name it something like... I have found a corrupt Bible verse in the <<<Please state a translation>>> That way it can indicate a miss translation and an argument can be made using the Hebrew and Greek.
 
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