THE LAST TRUMP EXPLAINED

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The last trump explanation isn't found in the trumpets of Revelation.

According to this passage the last trumpet shall begin to sound when "there shall be time no longer."

Revelation 10:5-7 (KJV) And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
The trumpet will sound ........... The first trumpet will sound and the dead shall be raised.

The dead in Christ, according to Paul shall be raised again and changed when the last, not the first trumpet sounds. When the faithful dead in Christ are resurrected immortal & incorruptible "Death is swallowed up in victory." Which is why at the sounding of the last/seventh trumpet there will be no longer time or opportunity for man to be saved because the mystery of God will be finished. IOW the Kingdom of God in heaven shall be complete, there will be no more people saved, and death and the grave (hell) will be cast into the eternal flames.

1 Corinthians 15:51-54 (KJV) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Revelation 20:14-15 (KJV) And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 

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[1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV] "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

Paul writes, "at the LAST trump" which is NOT the first trumpet, the dead in Christ are bodily raised and changed.

John doesn't say anything about the bodily resurrection and change that shall come when the last trumpet sounds with the sounding of the first trumpet. John writes that when the first trumpet sounded there followed fire mingled with blood cast upon the earth, and the third part of trees and all green grass burnt up.

Revelation 8:7 (KJV) The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
 

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[1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJV] "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep." ************ scripture says otherwise. We who are alive will not prevent/precede those dead in Christ

Selectively taking verses out of context we can make it appear Scripture supports whatever we might imagine. When we read 1Th in context we find both the physically dead in Christ as well as those who are still physically alive in Christ when He comes again, shall be caught up TOGETHER (when the last trumpet sounds) in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. This is at the sounding of the last, not the first trumpet sounding when all believers will be physically raised and changed from mortal to immortal/incorruptible body of flesh. Since it is the last trumpet, time for this earth shall be no longer! Because fire will come down from God out of heaven to utterly burn up this earth to prepare the way for the new heaven and new earth that shall be when this first earth has passed away (see Rev 20 & 21).

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (KJV) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 (KJV) And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
 
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As long as you understand the word "trump" in the King James Version (KJV) Bible does not refer to Donald Trump. In the 1611 KJV, "trump" is an old English noun meaning a trumpet or the sound of a trumpet, appearing in contexts like 1 Corinthians 15:52 ("the last trump") and 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
 

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There will not be a trumpet blowing. When Jesus shows up it will be Judgement day on Earth.
 

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The last trump corresponds to the "rapture" not Revelation tribulation period
Revelation 10:7 KJV - 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

The " seventh" angel with the " seventh" (meaning perfectly complete) or last trumpet ( or trump) is the end of this world.
 
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I have heard this before. Thats a good way to dismiss scripture we dont like or contradicts our set wrong beliefs

I can see it's a waste of my precious time trying to communicate biblical truths with you! It is you who is picking and choosing certain verses desperately trying to prove how you think or perhaps have been taught this unbiblical doctrine. Simply ignore context??? Not a sound approach for learning biblical truth.
 

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You are saying that the last trump, not being our "rapture", condemns us to go thru the tribulation wrath of God
Yes. True believers need to be here .If there ever was a time to bring the light of the gospel, it would be in these final days. We ain't doing any good floating around in the sky.

The great tribulation period is not the wrath of God. That comes at the last day. The great tribulation period comes when Israel has full control over ALL nations, which prepares the world for satan's short lived reign from Jerusalem. "Christian" Zionists already have his mark, the six pointed star of " David".
 

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I was going to respond until your Zionist remark
What do you have to say about that?
The Zion we read about in the Bible is heavenly, eternal. A place for God's people, Christians.

The doctrine of " christian Zionism" is
un-biblically earthly and quite evil. Christians who support zionists are not Christian. They bring another gospel.
 

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[1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV] "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." *********** There are a number of interpretations as to what the last trump is. The last trump explanation isn't found in the trumpets of Revelation. The meaning of the last trump is imbedded in the verse.
The trumpet will sound ........... The first trumpet will sound and the dead shall be raised.
The last trump.......... at the last trump we shall be changed

[1 Corinthians 15:51 KJV] "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"
[1 Corinthians 15:52 KJV] "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." *********** I will put this all together;

Behold, I shew you a mystery, we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump. The first trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible. The last trump will then sound, after the dead are raised, then we who are alive shall be changed.
The seventh trump in Rev 11 is the last trump for the simple reason there are no more trumpets after it.
 

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I read that Zionists support self-determination and their homeland
Do you oppose supporting this?
When you understand that the consequences of their statehood was two world wars and the displacement of 700,000 Palestinians I suppose you wouldn't either. They are not the innocent victims like they project to the world.