ScottA
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You have done it to yourself "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven." I only witnessed your public presentation of it. Not really a laughing matter.
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Spiritual Israelite
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Spare us all your empty words. They mean nothing. I haven't done anything to myself. You, on the other hand, are revealing to all that you are very delusional. You have never been to or seen the third heaven, yet you claim you did. You say you are the one Paul wrote about in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4, when anyone with discernment knows he was writing about himself.
ScottA
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This...you could not possibly know.
So...I take that as a PS on your public presentation to confirm your position of willingly taking away parts of scripture.
Spiritual Israelite
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I know for certain that you are not the person Paul wrote about in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4.
More empty words from you.
ScottA
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Spiritual Israelite
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For one thing, because it obviously happened long ago and you're not around 2,000 years old. Also, if you read the text carefully, you can see that Paul hints very strongly at himself being the one who was caught up to the third heaven, but he didn't want to say it explicitly because of not wanting to come across like he was boasting about it.
ScottA
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So...you do "believe" (meaning that statement is merely what you "believe") that such a thing is impossible for God, and you deny that the scriptures give evidence that He can. Thanks for making yourself clear.
"Read...hints...he didn't want to say?" Speculation. Conjecture. Opinion. What you believe. That is merely your interpretation: Fail.
But let me help you out here--Yes, God can do "long ago" when and wherever with whomever He wants to. But you are also wrong about prophecy, or who things might be referring to in one context as opposed to, or in addition to, another time, person, or context. Just take David's Psalms of his own suffering that are biblically claimed by the apostles to have been about Christ--correct in not one, but two different contexts...or of David's son building a house for the Lord God by Solomon, but also being more importantly true of Jesus--two again, and the One greater than the other...or of Paul who plucked the phrase "by the mouth of two or three" out of the Law (out of context) to show his own authority among the Corinthians. The point being--you are setting limits that the scriptures show to be unfounded, even anti-Christ. Stop doing that!
Which means: No--you do not know what you think you know, for certain.
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Ronald Nolette
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Of course not! You wet to the third heaven according to you, so you do not have to share with us peons who did not.
Well this will be my last post on this thread. You have shown now what you are. You are simply another heretic who pretends they have heard from god so they can twist the Scriptures to their own destruction.
Have the last word if you wish.
ScottA
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Many walked away from following Christ (the Word), and likewise many walk away when He being "the same yesterday, today, and forever" continues to speak through those whom He has come into and sent. And yes, they also do so crying "heretic!"
So be it (Amen).
Spiritual Israelite
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LOL. So, you are claiming to be about 2,000 years old then?
LOL. Let me know when you ever have anything of substance to say.
LOL. I don't need your help. At all.
I'm not wrong about 2 Corinthians 12. Paul made it clear that when the person was caught up to the third heaven, it happened 14 years before he wrote about it. It wasn't you.
Stop being delusional and thinking that even one verse in scripture is specifically about you individually. Your delusions of grandeur suggest to me that you have serious issues that you need to work out. You need to humble yourself.
Yes, I do. And you can't tell me otherwise.
ScottA
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You are being foolish, unmindful of the biblical fact that we have a great example in Christ who only seemingly lived to be 33 years old, but was before Abraham, and slain even before the world began.
Who are you to say that those in Christ were not with Him even since before the beginning? I ask, because I am one such person, "a man in Christ"...the very words used by Paul to reveal what you have apparently not fully considered according to the terms proven and established by Christ.
ScottA
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Not fully understanding the scope and reach of Jesus' involvement--as if He only lived 33 years, and me not 2,000--you have misinterpreted the above passage only according to flesh and blood and your own understanding. Which is infinitely short of all the passage refers to. Is "flesh and blood" the measure of Christ's church--it that what He said?
Don't be so foolish.
ScottA
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Tell that to David, the apostles, and Paul, who all were a part of something bigger than themselves, in Christ to boldly fulfill what they were assigned to by His authority...as do I, not ashamed, but with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ will be magnified in my body.
As God is my witness, it is my witness, by example and your own words, that you have considered all such matters to be "delusional.."
ScottA
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Spiritual Israelite
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Meaningless statement from someone who knows a lot about being foolish.
He was not slain before the world began. He was slain around 2,000 years ago. You are probably basing that on what it says in some translations of Revelation 13:8, but what that verse really says is that the book of life of the Lamb who was slain has been written since the foundation of the world.
We don't exist outside of time, so I am certain that we were not there with Him even since before the beginning. You continue to prove how delusional you are.
I feel sorry for you. You are very delusional, but are clueless about it. Paul very clearly indicated that the person who was caught up to the third heaven was caught up 14 years prior to him writing about it. Not before the foundation of the world. And he also strongly hinted that he was talking about himself, but didn't want to say it explicitly in order to not come across as boasting. I don't know what has caused you to be so delusional, but please ask God for wisdom so that you stop being that way (James 1:5-7).
Spiritual Israelite
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Your words mean nothing to me. You are not who you think you are. You are by far the most delusional person on this entire forum.
Spiritual Israelite
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Paul said that the person who was caught up to the third heaven was caught up 14 years prior to him writing about it. There is no way around that. If it was you, then it would mean you're almost 2,000 years old. It wasn't you. Stop fooling yourself.
ScottA
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ScottA
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You who believes we only exist in Time--feel sorry for me?
Talk about delusional? You poor thing--you sound like you believe we are like cabbage, or grass of the field!
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