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Jesus established the "way around that." I have told you by the same Spirit that Jesus spoke of it, that under those circumstances established by Christ, you have misinterpreted that passage given by Paul. You don't have to believe either of us--and believing only Him, and not the same of those "in Him", is a double standard--a self-imposed limit showing the limit of your own faith, nothing more. You simply reject the premise of what Jesus has revealed.
It is 100% biblical. He died and rose again around 2,000 years ago.
That does not say He was slain before the foundation of the world. He is God, so, of course, He has existed forever, but, as a man, He was slain around 2,000 years ago.
I feel sorry for everyone like you who believes in false teaching. But, especially you because you are so incredibly delusional.
That is you. The most delusional person on this forum by far. You think far too highly of yourself. I can't imagine anyone else here trying to claim anything even close to as ridiculous as claiming that they are the person Paul is talking about in 2 Corinthians 12:2-4. That level of delusion is off the charts.
You are really struggling here. It would be better for you to not respond than to respond with nothing but foolish nonsense like this.
It doesn't matter what you tell me. You are a false teacher and everyone here knows it. You are not handling being exposed very well, which is not surprising.
Jesus has revealed to me that you are delusional and a false teacher and you need to humble yourself. I hope you will heed what has been revealed to you and take appropriate action.
Now you're making false accusations. I am only talking about you and not those who were truly inspired by the Holy Spirit like David, the apostles and Paul. You truly have nothing of substance to offer here and your delusions seem to have no end to them.
So you deny that Jesus was with the Father before the world was made--not I AM?
So...you are admitting that "a man" can exit both in time and also out of time, if he is born in time of God and one with God?
No, I don't. In that same post I said "He is God, so, of course, He has existed forever, but, as a man, He was slain around 2,000 years ago.". Did you somehow miss that part?
No, I am admitting no such thing. Jesus was not a human until He came to the earth and was born around 2,000 years ago. He has been God forever. Tell me what you don't understand about this.
Your reading comprehension skills are not great.
How do you fit your head through double doors? And true believers have also called out believers who have been deceived and promulgate heresy !
Your rhetoric and accusations are a mockery of God and all who have been touched or visited by Him or been in His presents. I am not different than those before me, but you are the same as those who mocked, beat, and killed the prophets, and crucified Christ and killed many of His apostles. You have made yourself clear.
No, just addressing things point by point, precept upon precept, here a little there a little, so you have no excuse.
Nah. It's just a mockery of you and your delusions. Nothing more.
Your level of delusion is so high that it just boggles my mind. You putting yourself at the level of the prophets and apostles and even of Christ Himself is just unbelievable. Will you never humble yourself?
You are nowhere near their level. Please humble yourself before it's too late.
LOL. You have lost your mind.
I'm not familiar with what she has said. If she claimed to have been the one caught up to the third heaven, you better believe I would mock that.
Yeah, okay. Whatever makes you feel better.
Like you.
Including you.
Not including you.
Absolutely. But, you are.
I understand. This is about your understanding.
You think that those sent by God have big double-door heads? That is anti-Christ!
Of course I do. Show me where scripture teaches that any who are in Christ "were, and are, and are to come". I would never just take your word for anything. Back it up with scripture.
You're boring me with your overly dramatic nonsense. I hope some day you will humble yourself and realize that you were never caught up to the third heaven and that you have been mistaken about being some kind of special chosen servant of God, which you clearly are not.
Please get serious. Are you just playing games here? What scripture did you reference that says those who are in Christ "were, and are, and are to come"?
