Symbolism

Spiritual Israelite said:

You're boring me with your overly dramatic nonsense. I hope some day you will humble yourself and realize that you were never caught up to the third heaven and that you have been mistaken about being some kind of special chosen servant of God, which you clearly are not.

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Spiritual Israelite said:

Please get serious. Are you just playing games here? What scripture did you reference that says those who are in Christ "were, and are, and are to come"?

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ScottA said:

Again, you say what you could not possibly know, and don't actually know--meaning, you just don't want to believe it--which is a demonstration of the fact that you do not believe that God still picks who He wants and sends them out to do His will.

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ScottA said:

And it bothers you. You close the door, and by that same measure it shall be measured back to you.

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ScottA said:

Read my post again, or get someone to read it to you.

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Spiritual Israelite said:

I do believe that. I just know that you're not one of them. Sorry to be the one to inform you, but someone had to do it. God would never pick someone who is so delusional that they think they are the one Paul wrote about as having been caught up to the third heaven even though Paul indicated that it happened 14 years before he wrote about it.


What bothers me is that you come on this forum acting like you were sent by God to set everyone straight about what is true, when that so clearly is not the case. Your threats mean less than nothing to me.

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Spiritual Israelite said:

This is how you are. You can't even answer a simple question. You did not indicate what verse says something about the idea that those in Christ "were, and are, and are to come". Why are you being so evasive here? Just tell me what verse you are referencing or admit that you are just making that up.

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ScottA said:

Your ignorance is showing...you'll have to live with that. Meanwhile, you were not there before God, I was.

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ScottA said:

You are truly blind then. It's in my post.

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ScottA said:

I understand. This is about your understanding.

But yes, that is how it is for all who are born of flesh and blood. For He, Christ, is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Meaning if any are ever "in Christ"--we too "were, and are, and are to come."

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Spiritual Israelite said:

You are not a serious person. This is what you said...

You did not say anywhere what verse says that those in Christ "were, and are, and are to come". So, just tell me where you got that from. Very simple request. Your evasiveness reveals a lot about you.

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ScottA said:

Thanks for showing just how blind you are, and how you don't know scripture enough that you think I didn't quote it, giving you the answer you ask for even before you asked for it.

Would it help if I put it in bold?

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Spiritual Israelite said:

Why are you being so evasive? Are you trying to hide the fact that you're just making things up? I do not find any scripture saying that those in Christ "were, and are, and are to come" in the same sense that Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, as you claimed. So, just tell me in what verse of scripture I can find that. It's a very simple question that you can't seem to answer. I think you know that there is no such verse, so you are trying everything you can to distract attention away from that.

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ScottA said:

Why are YOU being so blind, or so legalistic with the scriptures that you cannot put 2 and 2 together and realize that not just Jesus's head "is the same yesterday, today, and forever", but also His body?

Jesus called those who did such, "fools and blind."

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Spiritual Israelite said:

So, once again, you failed to answer a simple question. Thank you for admitting that you are just making things up and not actually quoting any scripture when you claim that those who are in Christ "were, and are, and are to come". You put that in quotes as if those words are from scripture when, in reality, they come from your imagination. It's rich that you would call anyone else blind when you have blinded yourself so badly that you have convinced yourself that you are the one Paul wrote about that was caught up to the third heaven, even though you are not around 2,000 years old and Paul heavily hinted that he was talking about himself. But, just continue in your blindness and delusions if you insist while continuing to make things up that are not taught anywhere in scripture.

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ScottA said:

I am quoting you--because you are a LIAR.

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ScottA said:

I did not admit or say any such thing, and I gave you the scriptures even before you asked for them. It's all written here in the thread.

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ScottA said:

You think that those sent by God have big double-door heads? That is anti-Christ!

And no--I do not "seek to add to the bible"--that is a lie, and one I have explained and corrected many time, apparently on deaf ears. And what, you accuse me of being a counterfeit because counterfeiters use "near identical words" as those they are counterfeiting? Are you stupid? Do you not know that in spite of those parading as angels of light, there are those who are true and legitimately sent by God--have you closed the door on God doing what He has always done? Indeed--that would be stupid!

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Ronald Nolette said:

All your accusations mean nothing! I know whom I serve and His name is Jesus!

I have not said that you have added to Scripture. I have repeatedly said that if let me repeat IF IF IF IF your "higher spiritual meanings" contradict or alter the inspired written word , they are demonic.

Oh I recognize that real saints and false saints can look near identical. But you are so thin skinned and a careless reader that you do not realize I have as yet accused yo0u of nothing! Only conditional accusations based on your own words.

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