Demonic forces.

amigo de christo said:

Mother Teresa: Her People and Her Work, by Desmond Doig, (Harper & Row, 1976), p.156.

"I love all religions. … If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there.” She upheld that there are many ways to God: “All is God–Buddists, Hindus, Christians, etc., all have access to the same God.” - Time Magazine, December 4, 1989.
THEY SOLD JESUS OUT my friend .
I tried to warn us this ecuminecal lets be on big happy earth family , MEANT AND MEANS business .
and my goodness how it has exploded with the christain realm as of late too .
That my friend IS ON and WILL BE ON THEM ALL . AND THEY WILL BE TOLD I NEVER KNEW YOU .
We simply cannot join hands or support in any way this ecumiencal movement , its interfaith . If we do
PREPARE to hear I NEVER KNEW YOU . We cannot make excuses for others either .
I know . ITS sad to see it . but warn we must . In hopes that at least SOME will hear and come out of the harlots cup of love
Which she has called love , AND FAST TOO . ITS all coming DOWN on JESUS DAY .

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doctrox said:

Oh yeah, that spirit 'takes care of' people, for sure. Doesn't matter "what color, ethnic background or creed..."

Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.

To be crystal concerning the rotten fruit that keeps on giving, courtesy of the diabolical spirit behind MT (as in eMpTy):

Mother Teresa charity employees arrested over baby-selling allegations - CNN​

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Ummm - Mother Teresa died in 1997. This CNN piece if from 2018 – 23 years later.

So – when the Gnostics and other heretics started teaching quasi-Christian lies as early as 20-30 years after Jesus ascended to Heaven – does that make HIM a fraud?? Your “guilt by association” argument is stupid at best . . .

As to the actual case in India – an employee named Anima Indwar, a staff member, and Sister Koncilia were accused of selling four children from a Ranchi shelter for pregnant, unmarried women. Indowar confessed to the crime. Sister Koncilia was eventually released and was NOT convicted.

The BBC reported that the nuns were NOT collectively found guilty of a widespread organization-run trafficking ring. However, they ran a headline claiming “Mother Teresa India charity home 'sold babies'”.

THIS is a perfect example of why people like YOU who don’t do their homework jump to these asinine conclusions . . .https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/06/asia/india-mother-teresa-baby-trafficking

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To be crystal concerning the rotten fruit that keeps on giving, courtesy of the diabolical spirit behind MT (as in eMpTy):

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Was Jesus' fruit "Rotten"??
Was it HIS fault that some of His followers fell away into heresy??

Don't just READ the Bible - LEARN what it means . . .

Demonic forces.

Today what is being peddled as popular “games” for “kids” is disturbingly violent,
abnormal and demonic.

BreadOfLife said:

people like YOU who don’t do their homework

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Why the gaslighting? The poor guy is suffering from writer's block. Let's help him out. What follows is but a small sampling of what has been documented re: the Mother Teresa scam.

1. She bought expired medicines at low cost and injected them into patients to show the world that she was treating people.
2. She had no love for the poor. She chose the poor because it's easy to fool them in the name of Jesus.
3. Only 7% of donations she received were spent on the poor; the remainder went into the bank accounts of various religious leaders.
4. Many of her patients didn't make it.
5. She admired the fascist government of Italy. She was also a friend of Haiti dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier who was later convicted of genocide. - Source: Mother Teresa: The Final Verdict, 2002, by Dr. Aroop Chatterjee from Kolkata (also published as Mother Teresa: The Untold Story). He conducted a study on MT's charities during the MT era and interviewed witnesses. Buy the book on Amazon.

Inadequate care and alleged cruelty are among the accusations against Mother Teresa. According to a 2013 journal paper by Canadian academics Serge Larivée, Geneviève Chénard and Carole Sénéchal, Mother Teresa's clinics received millions of dollars in donations but lacked medical care, systematic diagnosis, necessary nutrition, and sufficient analgesics for those in pain. They also suggest Mother Teresa was in fact not very “saintly”. The report is entitled, “Les côtés ténébreux de Mère Teresa”, or loosely translated as, The dark sides of Mother Teresa.


Teresa was asked, 'Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?', and she said, "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people." (The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, 1995, page 11.)

Further, Christopher Hitchens is "Critic at Large" for Vanity Fair, writes the Minority Report column for The Nation, and is a frequent guest on current affairs and commentary television programs. He has written numerous books on international current affairs, including The Missionary Position. His movie exposing MT, "Hells Angel", was televised in the UK but banned in the USA.


For those who want the short version (6 pages) of The Missionary Position, Hitchens granted an interview that recapitulates the most devastating critiques of Mother Teresa ever made. It also gives a very telling account by a leading journalist into the U.S. media's great reluctance to criticize religion and religious leaders. Here are a few excerpts from that interview:

"...we are up against, namely the problem of credulity. One of the most salient examples of people's willingness to believe anything if it is garbed in the appearance of holiness is the uncritical acceptance of the idea of Mother Teresa as a saint by people who would normally be thinking - however lazily - in a secular or rational manner."

"Why is it never mentioned that her stated motive for the work is that of proselytization for religious fundamentalism, for the most extreme interpretation of Catholic doctrine?"

"...[Teresa] had rallied to the side of the Duvalier family in Haiti, for instance, that she had taken money - over a million dollars - from Charles Keating, the Lincoln Savings and Loans swindler, even though it had been shown to her that the money was stolen; that she has been an ally of the most reactionary forces in India and in many other countries; that she has campaigned recently to prevent Ireland from ceasing to be the only country in Europe with a constitutional ban on divorce, that her interventions are always timed to assist the most conservative and obscurantist forces."

"I don't think that she's naive. I don't think she is particularly intelligent or that she has a complex mind, but I think she has a certain cunning....the genius of it is to make it look simple."

"...when Mother Teresa first met the pope in the Vatican, she arrived by bus dressed only in a sari that cost one rupee. Now that would be my definition of behaving ostentatiously. A normal person would put on at least her best scarf and take a taxi. To do it in the way that she did is the reverse of the simple path. It's obviously theatrical and calculated. And yet it is immediately written down as a sign of her utter holiness and devotion. Well, one doesn't have to be too cynical to see through that."

"The care facilities are grotesquely simple: rudimentary, unscientific, miles behind any modern conception of what medical science is supposed to do. There have been a number of articles I've collected - some more since my book came out - about the failure and primitivism of her treatment of lepers and the dying, of her attitude towards medication and prophylaxis. Very rightly is it said that she tends to the dying, because if you were doing anything but dying she hasn't really got much to offer."

"...the testimony of a former very active member of her Order who worked for her for many years...in the office Mother Teresa maintains in New York City. She was in charge of taking the money to the bank. She estimates that there must be $50 million in that bank account alone. She said that one of the things that began to raise doubts in her mind was that the Sisters always had to go around pretending that they were very poor and they couldn't use the money for anything in the neighborhood that required alleviation. Under the cloak of avowed poverty they were still soliciting donations, labor, food, and so on from local merchants. This she found as a matter of conscience to be offensive."

"I think [$50 million] is a very small portion, and we should call for an audit of her organization. She carefully doesn't keep the money in India because the Indian government requires disclosure of foreign missionary organizations funds."

"I was delighted by how much of her activity was available on film: for example, her praising the Albanian dictator Enver Hoxha. There is also film of her groveling to the Duvaliers: licking the feet of the rich instead of washing the feet of the poor. But "60 Minutes" demanded a price that was greater than the whole cost of the rest of the production. So we had to use stills."

"[Teresa's] break into stardom came when Malcolm Muggeridge - a very pious British political and social pundit - adopted her for his pet cause. In 1969, he made a very famous film about her life - and later a book - called Something Beautiful for God. Both the book and the film deserve the label hagiography."

"...there is the general problem of credulity, of people being willing - once a reputation has been established - to judge people's actions by that reputation instead of the reputation by that action."

"There is a shallow, opportunist ecumenicism among religious extremists, and Mother Teresa is quite willingly and happily in its service. She knows exactly who she is working for and with."

"Mother Teresa was interviewed by Ladies Home Journal, a magazine read by millions of American women, and in the course of it she says that she heard that Princess Diana was getting divorced and she really hopes so because she will be so much happier that way."

"I hesitated to cover this in my book [Missionary Position], but I decided I had to publish that she has said that the suffering of the poor is something very beautiful and the world is being very much helped by the nobility of this example of misery and suffering."

The complete 6-page interview of Hitchens can be found here as a free pdf.

Demonic forces.

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doctrox said:

Why the gaslighting? The poor guy is suffering from writer's block. Let's help him out. What follows is but a small sampling of what has been documented re: the Mother Teresa scam.

1. She bought expired medicines at low cost and injected them into patients to show the world that she was treating people.
2. She had no love for the poor. She chose the poor because it's easy to fool them in the name of Jesus.
3. Only 7% of donations she received were spent on the poor; the remainder went into the bank accounts of various religious leaders.
4. Many of her patients didn't make it.
5. She admired the fascist government of Italy. She was also a friend of Haiti dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier who was later convicted of genocide. - Source: Mother Teresa: The Final Verdict, 2002, by Dr. Aroop Chatterjee from Kolkata (also published as Mother Teresa: The Untold Story). He conducted a study on MT's charities during the MT era and interviewed witnesses. Buy the book on Amazon.

Inadequate care and alleged cruelty are among the accusations against Mother Teresa. According to a 2013 journal paper by Canadian academics Serge Larivée, Geneviève Chénard and Carole Sénéchal, Mother Teresa's clinics received millions of dollars in donations but lacked medical care, systematic diagnosis, necessary nutrition, and sufficient analgesics for those in pain. They also suggest Mother Teresa was in fact not very “saintly”. The report is entitled, “Les côtés ténébreux de Mère Teresa”, or loosely translated as, The dark sides of Mother Teresa.

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“Documented” – or falsely asserted?
Yor comment that “she had no love for the poor” and that “She chose the poor because it's easy to fool them in the name of Jesus” is clear evidence of the latter . . .

What “scam artist” in their right mind would choose to live with and administer care for extremely poor and diseased people just to “fool them”?? Are you even capable of stepping back to see just how asinine this accusation is?

First of all - MANY of her patients didn’t make it because they came to her in advanced stages of various disease – NOT because she didn’t care for them.

As to her “love “of Fascism – this is a complete LIE. She and her family were part of the anti-Fascist Resistance that fought against Mussolini.

“Mussolini was a great coward and that a thousand people in Italy would have been enough to chase him away.” – Mother Teresa

doctrox said:

Teresa was asked, 'Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?', and she said, "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people." (The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, 1995, page 11.)

Further, Christopher Hitchens is "Critic at Large" for Vanity Fair, writes the Minority Report column for The Nation, and is a frequent guest on current affairs and commentary television programs. He has written numerous books on international current affairs, including The Missionary Position. His movie exposing MT, "Hells Angel", was televised in the UK but banned in the USA.

For those who want the short version (6 pages) of The Missionary Position, Hitchens granted an interview that recapitulates the most devastating critiques of Mother Teresa ever made. It also gives a very telling account by a leading journalist into the U.S. media's great reluctance to criticize religion and religious leaders. Here are a few excerpts from that interview:

"...we are up against, namely the problem of credulity. One of the most salient examples of people's willingness to believe anything if it is garbed in the appearance of holiness is the uncritical acceptance of the idea of Mother Teresa as a saint by people who would normally be thinking - however lazily - in a secular or rational manner."

"Why is it never mentioned that her stated motive for the work is that of proselytization for religious fundamentalism, for the most extreme interpretation of Catholic doctrine?"

"...[Teresa] had rallied to the side of the Duvalier family in Haiti, for instance, that she had taken money - over a million dollars - from Charles Keating, the Lincoln Savings and Loans swindler, even though it had been shown to her that the money was stolen; that she has been an ally of the most reactionary forces in India and in many other countries; that she has campaigned recently to prevent Ireland from ceasing to be the only country in Europe with a constitutional ban on divorce, that her interventions are always timed to assist the most conservative and obscurantist forces."

"I don't think that she's naive. I don't think she is particularly intelligent or that she has a complex mind, but I think she has a certain cunning....the genius of it is to make it look simple."

"...when Mother Teresa first met the pope in the Vatican, she arrived by bus dressed only in a sari that cost one rupee. Now that would be my definition of behaving ostentatiously. A normal person would put on at least her best scarf and take a taxi. To do it in the way that she did is the reverse of the simple path. It's obviously theatrical and calculated. And yet it is immediately written down as a sign of her utter holiness and devotion. Well, one doesn't have to be too cynical to see through that."

"The care facilities are grotesquely simple: rudimentary, unscientific, miles behind any modern conception of what medical science is supposed to do. There have been a number of articles I've collected - some more since my book came out - about the failure and primitivism of her treatment of lepers and the dying, of her attitude towards medication and prophylaxis. Very rightly is it said that she tends to the dying, because if you were doing anything but dying she hasn't really got much to offer."

"...the testimony of a former very active member of her Order who worked for her for many years...in the office Mother Teresa maintains in New York City. She was in charge of taking the money to the bank. She estimates that there must be $50 million in that bank account alone. She said that one of the things that began to raise doubts in her mind was that the Sisters always had to go around pretending that they were very poor and they couldn't use the money for anything in the neighborhood that required alleviation. Under the cloak of avowed poverty they were still soliciting donations, labor, food, and so on from local merchants. This she found as a matter of conscience to be offensive."

blah, blah, blah . . .

The complete 6-page interview of Hitchens can be found here as a free pdf.

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You site Christopher Hitchens as a source – and you expect me to take you seriously??
And by the way - he's NOT the "critic at ;arge" for Vanity Fair. He's DEAD.
He died 15 years ago in 2011 . . .

Hitchens was a hateful, arrogant atheist, whose goal in life was to smear ALL things pertaining to religion or God. His conclusions to be ridiculous, especially coming from a first-world cynic, who NEVER dipped a toe into the third-world cesspool of disease and poverty. He reminds me of the white female leftists we see in the streets today screaming about “injustice” when they don’t have even the foggiest clue.

Known as one of the “Four Horsemen of the New Atheism” – I’m sure that Hitchens is now regretting his life’s mission to spread hatred of God since his death in 2011 . . .

BreadOfLife said:

“Documented” – or falsely asserted?

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I documented; you falsely asserted, re: *Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu aka "Mother Teresa" and the remainder of your screed.

This is what we've witnessed from the opposition: A "wafer worshipping" avatar and icon; foul language in multi-colored graphics and large text; and an incessant demand to be heard for his much bloviation in the absence of the Holy Spirit. Meanwhile, we continue to document but a jot of the machinations of the corrupt RCC with its wannabee ambassador. From Mother Mary to Mother Teresa, one idol begets another in the world's largest antichrist religion.

Caveat emptor.

stevesonthebay said:

As a result of exposing the lies there has been a doubling down by those who push such ideas. Rather than admit the truth they become aggressive and take it out of those exposing the lies....

Thats exactly what satan does. He tries to decieve and when he is caught out he becomes crazy and will fight against the truth.

If you look at those defending the lies. They become vile and want the most horrible things to happen to others. Evil and anger spew from their mouths. Its the complete opposite of Christ. Its actually quite scary that humans will become so agressive, violent and wish for evil upon those standing up for the truth.

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Indeed...

And speaking of one of Satan's minions who "tries to deceive...and will fight against the truth":

"Mussolini was a great coward and that a thousand people in Italy would have been enough to chase him away." – Mother Teresa

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The above is NOT an original quote from Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu aka Mother Teresa, but the poster presents it as such, which is deceptive, to say the least. The original quote is from Teresa Mattei, an Italian partisan and politician: "'My father always maintained that Mussolini was a great coward and that a thousand people in Italy would have been enough to chase him away,' she said." - source

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*Agnes took the name of Teresa, after St. Thérèse of Lisieux (canonized in 1925 and one of the best-known female saints of the RCC), a French nun from the Carmelite order. Because there was already a novice at Darjeeling named Thérèse, Agnes decided to adopt the Spanish spelling of the French saint’s name by dropping the “h” and the accented characters, and substituting an “a” for the final “e.” - Mother Teresa, pp. 28 & 29.

I had another demonic dream last night that became lucid.

I was walking up a dark staircase. At the landing was a 4 yo girl wearing a red dress smiling at me. Her feet were on the 1st step sitting with on the floor above. Time and motion were off. After a number of seconds I remained just as far away from her as when I started, when I should have reached her.

Frustrated, I looked up at her and noticed something wasn't right. She wore an evil smile. When I noticed that, 2 things happened suddenly. I was aware I was dreaming and her evil smile filled my point of view, as if the image of her face approached me - or surrounded me. I commanded the demon to go to the Judgement at Jesus' feet.

Immediately, the dream changed. Two more demons looking at me from a side profile. They were pig like, with very small eyes, wrinkled skin like an elephants and cropped hair like Moe of the 3 stooges. Their malice peered into me. I commanded them also to be judged by Christ and immediately woke up.

Taken said:

Demonic forces.

Today what is being peddled as popular “games” for “kids” is disturbingly violent,
abnormal and demonic.

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very true .
Unfortunately TODAY what is being peddeled as love and of GOD in most churches and the false religoins
Is ALso very DEMONIC and is of anti christ to lead them as one to its cry and solution for peace .

amigo de christo said:

very true .
Unfortunately TODAY what is being peddeled as love and of GOD in most churches and the false religoins

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I couldn’t say. I don’t Attend any man-built churches.

Is ALso very DEMONIC and is of anti christ to lead them as one to its cry and solution for peace .

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Men will choose their Way, regardless of the “man-made” church they do or do not attend.

Taken said:

I couldn’t say. I don’t Attend any man-built churches.



Men will choose their Way, regardless of the “man-made” church they do or do not attend.

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men will choose their way and for many their way is and was a way that seemed right but the END BE DEATH .
SO , excuse me why i show my love for all and actually correct and warn .
SOON the solution will come . Even now they of both and all sides are seeing
its grass as very green and promising .
But oopsy , THE GRASS IS OFTEN VERY GREEN by the septic tank . AND BELIEVE YOU ME , we dont wanna drink that water .

amigo de christo said:

men will choose their way and for many their way is and was a way that seemed right but the END BE DEATH .
SO , excuse me why i show my love for all and actually correct and warn .
SOON the solution will come . Even now they of both and all sides are seeing
its grass as very green and promising .
But oopsy , THE GRASS IS OFTEN VERY GREEN by the septic tank . AND BELIEVE YOU ME , we dont wanna drink that water .

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The END of All human Body’s IS Death.
God requires the Life (blood) of Every Human.

The Offering of a Gift from God is …
Eternal Spirit Life, that can Never Die.

Some want it, Some Take it…
Some neither want it or Take it.

Okay by God
Okay by me.

stevesonthebay said:

I am not sure we can put the genie back in the bottle.

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I'm convinced that we shouldn't be trying to.

We're supposed to come out of that wicked thing, build our own city on a hill. Satan has us all busted up, each isolated and into his own flesh; we be indulging every-thing that the flesh wants. Stand alone, die alone. Where, O where, are the righteous? Without sanctification, we are toast re: Sodom - regardless the opposition.

stevesonthebay said:

I think Christs message works best when things are going bad. When it gets serious enough that people take notice and stop and think. The world needs a wakeup call spelt out specificially by God so there is no ambiguity. Just as it was in the past.

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It's coming, but who will even heed it?

stevesonthebay said:

If people then still choose to reject God then they do so knowing God is real and greater than the worlds demonic forces. Exposing the lies of the great deciever who has fooled many in modern times.

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Yeah, that's God's style, to make it obvious who is, and who is not, with him, so that all will be without excuse.

So you wonder how we've come to this point where one's next-door neighbor is an unknown, where ppl don't greet each other any more, as the love waxes cold.

You know I "harp on about HAARP" and the like. With much knowledge comes much sorrow. How many of us are actually walking in the calling that was ordained of old for each one of us?

So I'm gonna do it again. I tell you that your phone is taking EEG's of your brain non-stop. A.I. is learning how to "customize" the assault just for you, targeting you via your unique neuronal patterns. In the past, browsing habits were exploited and fed back to you; now it's your thoughts, diabolically modified, that are being fed back to you, but you keep holding onto that wicked phone.

The enemy has you in a place where you believe you cannot afford to live without that wicked thing. THAT IS A LIE FROM THE PIT. "God will protect me from the consequences of my crappy choice." ANOTHER LIE.

This relates DIRECTLY to the situation described by the OP and the spiritual darkness that WE have allowed to come upon ourselves. We're doing it to ourselves, and wireless is one of the greatest satanic weapons ever invented.

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. (John 17:7).

Demonic forces.

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doctrox said:

I documented; you falsely asserted, re: *Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu aka "Mother Teresa" and the remainder of your screed.
This is what we've witnessed from the opposition: A "wafer worshipping" avatar and icon; foul language in multi-colored graphics and large text; and an incessant demand to be heard for his much bloviation in the absence of the Holy Spirit. Meanwhile, we continue to document but a jot of the machinations of the corrupt RCC with its wannabee ambassador. From Mother Mary to Mother Teresa, one idol begets another in the world's largest antichrist religion.

Caveat emptor.

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The above anti-Catholic diatribe has nothing to do with this debate. It’s simply a desperate attempt to besmirch the Catholic Church.

As for your nonsense about “wafer worshipping” and “foul language” – I’ve done neither.
I worship God in sprit – AND in the Eucharist . . .

John 6:53-56
“Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do NOT have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is TRUE FOOD, and my blood is TRUE DRINK. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.”

doctrox said:

Indeed...

And speaking of one of Satan's minions who "tries to deceive...and will fight against the truth":
The above is NOT an original quote from Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu aka Mother Teresa, but the poster presents it as such, which is deceptive, to say the least. The original quote is from Teresa Mattei, an Italian partisan and politician: "'My father always maintained that Mussolini was a great coward and that a thousand people in Italy would have been enough to chase him away,' she said." - source

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That is completely irrelevant, as it pertains to YOUR accusation that Mother Teresa was a “big fan” of Mussolini. Sher would NEVER have repeated this sentiment if she admired him – get it?

Face it - you don’t have a case because I have defeated your feeble attempts to sully the name of Mother Teresa and her charitable Christian works.

Matt. 25:35-36
For I was hungry and YOU gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and YOU gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and YOU invited me in, I needed clothes and YOU clothed me, I was sick and YOU looked after me, I was in prison and YOU came to visit me.

doctrox said:

I*Agnes took the name of Teresa, after St. Thérèse of Lisieux (canonized in 1925 and one of the best-known female saints of the RCC), a French nun from the Carmelite order. Because there was already a novice at Darjeeling named Thérèse, Agnes decided to adopt the Spanish spelling of the French saint’s name by dropping the “h” and the accented characters, and substituting an “a” for the final “e.” - Mother Teresa, pp. 28 & 29.

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And this is important, because??

This is a desperately asinine non sequitur. . .

SavedInHim said:

God is removing His restraining power over evil. Unfortunately, I'm afraid what we're seeing now is only the warmup act. I think the thing that has shocked and amazed me the most is how easily Christians have taken the bait.

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Are you saying the Holy Spirit is no longer on earth?

read thru

BreadOfLife said:

The above anti-Catholic diatribe has nothing to do with this debate. It’s simply a desperate attempt to besmirch the Catholic Church.

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Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu (aka "Mother Teresa") was an obvious spokesperson for the RCC; this is not a "debate." And what is "desperate" is your moving at high speed with reckless abandon, hell-bent for leather.

As for your nonsense about “wafer worshipping” and “foul language” – I’ve done neither.

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Your wafer wavers...

...because we be "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God" (2 Cor. 10).

Here's a reprise of your foul language:

BreadOfLife said:

...asinine conclusions...

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BreadOfLife said:

...see just how asinine this accusation is?

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BreadOfLife said:

This is a desperately asinine non sequitur. . .

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BreadOfLife said:

I worship God in sprit – AND in the Eucharist . . .

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For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. (Exo. 34)

Trusting in anything other than Jesus for salvation (adding to his work) results in falling from grace and a return to bondage.

BreadOfLife said:

That is completely irrelevant, as it pertains to YOUR accusation that Mother Teresa was a “big fan” of Mussolini. Sher would NEVER have repeated this sentiment if she admired him – get it?

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It is completely relevant to your credibility because you stooped to lying when you falsely attributed your quote to MT. The end shall never justify the means.

BreadOfLife said:

Face it - you don’t have a case because I have defeated your feeble attempts to sully the name of Mother Teresa and her charitable Christian works.

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We're still waiting for your documentation, especially her confession of Jesus Christ as her Lord and Saviour.

BreadOfLife said:

And this is important, because??

This is a desperately asinine non sequitur. . .

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That footnote was for the reader's benefit, lest there be any misunderstanding concerning the Catholic-centered rationale for Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu's name change.

Demonic forces.

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stevesonthebay said:

Hanging around the gate and watching and being entice until he is lured in. Rather than obeying God and just staying right away.

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Reminds me of Lot's wife who wouldn't let go of her stuff, her lifestyle. For her disobedience, God turned her into a pillar of salt - a common commodity of the day.

stevesonthebay said:

God will make it so so that no one is in doubt.

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After we've muddied it all together, I love the way that God steps in to clarify who is who.

stevesonthebay said:

Many who are not Christians will come to Christ and those who claim to know Him will be left behind because they are not willing to take that step to put their bodies on the line.

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Ok, but a red flag appears when I hear that line. There's so much baggage involved with the modern dispensational corporate money making heresy marketed as the "Left Behind" franchise (as per Mat. 24 & Luke 17.)

doctrox said:

Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu (aka "Mother Teresa") was an obvious spokesperson for the RCC; this is not a "debate." And what is "desperate" is your moving at high speed with reckless abandon, hell-bent for leather.

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YOU refer to facts as “desperation with reckless abandon” because you don’t know TRUTH.

doctrox said:

Your wafer wavers...

...because we be "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God" (2 Cor. 10).

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You‘re casting down the words of our Savior Jesus Christ.

doctrox said:

Here's a reprise of your foul language:

BreadOfLife said:
...asinine conclusions...

BreadOfLife said:
...see just how asinine this accusation is?

BreadOfLife said:
This is a desperately asinine non sequitur. . .

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PLEASSE tell me that you’re only joking, because NOBODY is this clueless.
It’s disturbing that you won’t even crack open a dictionary before vomiting out false accusations . . .

“Asinine” simply means “foolish, unintelligent, or silly; stupid”. The English word finds its etymology in the Latin “asininus”.

This is only “foul language” to the ignorant and uneducated . . .

doctrox said:

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. (Exo. 34)
Trusting in anything other than Jesus for salvation (adding to his work) results in falling from grace and a return to bondage.

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WHO said that I trust another God for my salvation??

As an educated Catholic, it’s always been frightening to me that most Protestants can believe that God spoke the entire universe into existence – yet you can’t believe that He can change bread and wine into His Body and Blood.

Regarding the Eucharist and why YOU can’t believe –

John 63-65
“But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him. And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”

Here, Jesus is telling them that unless we are drawn to him by the Father, we cannot possibly understand him. This is why his followers abandoned him and returned to their former way of life in verse 66. This verse says, “As a result of this, many of his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him.”

It is also important to note what happened after this. Did Jesus plead with them or explain that he was speaking “metaphorically” or “symbolically”?
NO. He turned to the Apostles and said, "Do you ALSO want to leave?" Here it is completely evident - except to those who refuse to see - that Jesus meant what he said.

This marks the ONLY time in Scripture where Jesus' disciples left him for doctrinal reasons. They simply couldn't handle what Jesus was telling them. NOBODY who doesn’t truly know Christ can believe in the Eucharist.

At the Last Supper, He showed us the WAY to consume His flesh and blood (Luke 22:19–20; Matt. 26:26–28; Mark 14:22–24; 1 Cor. 11:23–25)
“This IS my body…”
“This IS my blood…”

doctrox said:

It is completely relevant to your credibility because you stooped to lying when you falsely attributed your quote to MT. The end shall never justify the means.

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WRONG.
The only one who has "lied" here is YOU.

She DID say that. She simply repeated an earlier sentiment from someone else. YOUs said that she was a big fan of Mussolini.
I destroyed that asinine argument with FACTS . . .

doctrox said:

We're still waiting for your documentation, especially her confession of Jesus Christ as her Lord and Saviour.

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THIS is a prime example of WHY I consider your arguments to be “asinine”.

The very idea that unless you proclaim Jesus as “Lord and Savior” in written form, you are NOT saved is about as ANTI-Jesus as it gets. NOWHERE in Scripture are we required to put our confession of faith in writing. Study your Bible, son . . .

As for Mother Teresa’s faith – she was definitely in Christ:

"Who is Jesus to me?
Jesus is the Word made Flesh. Jesus is the Bread of Life. Jesus is the Victim offered for our sins on the cross. Jesus is the sacrifice offered at holy Mass for the sins of the world and for mine. Jesus is the Word - to be spoken. Jesus is the Truth - to be told. Jesus is the Way - to be walked. Jesus is the Light - to be lit. Jesus is the Life - to be lived. Jesus is the Love - to be loved"
- Mother Teresa

“By blood and origin, I am Albanian. My citizenship is Indian. I am a Catholic nun. As to my calling, I belong to the whole world. As to my heart, I belong entirely to the heart of Jesus.”
- Mother Teresa

doctrox said:

That footnote was for the reader's benefit, lest there be any misunderstanding concerning the Catholic-centered rationale for Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu's name change.

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No – it was a vapid nonse'uitur meant ONLY to excoriate this humble servant of God.
My guess is that youre jealous of her undying love for - and devout faith in Christ . . .

BreadOfLife said:

PLEASSE tell me that you’re only joking, because NOBODY is this clueless.
It’s disturbing that you won’t even crack open a dictionary before vomiting out false accusations . . .

“Asinine” simply means “foolish, unintelligent, or silly; stupid”. The English word finds its etymology in the Latin “asininus”.

This is only “foul language” to the ignorant and uneducated . . .

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Rather, your foul "asinine" originates from the Latin asininus, meaning "like an ass" or "of an ass," derived from asinus (donkey or ass).

BreadOfLife said:

She DID say that. She simply repeated an earlier sentiment from someone else. YOUs said that she was a big fan of Mussolini.
I destroyed that asinine argument with FACTS . . .

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Regardless, you intentionally obfuscated the originator of the quote, making you a LIAR - not by slur but by scriptural definition.

BreadOfLife said:

My guess is that youre jealous of her undying love for - and devout faith in Christ . . .

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My guess is that you are tightly bound by a Catholic deceiver.

Demonic forces.

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