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The artistic license was a bit too much for me because it distorted important truths. When Jesus was seen as needing a script from his disciple was troubling for me. C'mon! They turned Him into an actor! What does that say about this lord they are presenting? He's a total joke!
I also took issue with Thomas's wife dying and Jesus unable/refusing to help her. Again- who is that lord?

So I stopped watching it- There was zero reason to do those things. Filling in blanks would be hard- but there was no need to distort truths in that way. Maybe nocturnal emissions is where their brains are..
I then learned also that this guy is the son of the "left Behind" series heads- - Gee ..

I imagine it could help someone to be interested in learning more about the real Lord.. so I don't despise it's goal- but I can't
endorse it.
Thats why I said in another thread why I most like documentaries. Especially on the bible. As it goes by the facts. I watch 'Bible Expidition' Or something like that. They actually cite the bible verse as they retrace a jouney or identify a biblical place.

I get what you mean and I would not recommend the Chosen for teaching someone the Gospel. It is just one of many media entertainment from evil to biblical truth that Christians have to navigate in the world.

Do you think art itself is a doorway to anti God and Christ. because art allows licence or imagination that this will automatically blur Christs clear truth ?

Or can there be a degree of artist imagination that can convey the truth ? For example how some churches may use music or lights for atmosphere. Or use backdrops that may emit a certain mood to enhance the worship.
 
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Not too creative or artistic. There is a reason most movies adopted into film are not word for word translations.

I think the point is:
Adding in artistic input into a movie is expected… and sways from the Truth… when the artistic features are out of line with the factual Truths.

Noah, the movie example…hundreds of snakes entering the Ark? No.

Glory to God,
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I've watched The Gospel According to Matthew a few times. It's pretty good, better than The Chosen at least.

I was checking out The Gospel of John and noticed Jesus is played by Henry Ian Cusick. I wouldn't be able to watch it without constantly thinking of Desmod from Lost, lol.
My wife and I think that if an actor portrays Jesus, they should not return to worldly movie making. Same reason as you.

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exactly, no interjection of vain imaginations of men but just pure truth.
And boring, which explains its lack of relative commercial success.

The Chosen is not about the Bible or Jesus but its tangential proximity to it offends those who treat it as an IDOL. I asked another anti-Chosen guy a question I want to ask you. Do you believe the only words Jesus spoke are contained in the Bible?

The Chosen is about the people Jesus choose. It's a fresh look at a beloved story. I love how they downplayed the actual sermon on the mount. The story centers around Matthew not understanding the parables and introducing the character of Judas. The episode ends with Jesus pulling back the curtain to address the masses. And then the next episode begins after the sermon is over with some flash backs to it without words and perhaps in slow motion.

Another episode presents a fictional back story to the young Gospel writer, Mark, where it was his house that our Lord ate his last supper. Mark's father was also introduced and the writing of how it all came together was very entertaining and creative, providing much more depth than the Bible. "Jesus wept" may be factual but this show brings the emotion and the context to life in a powerful way.

It's art, Christian art. Better than Satanic art. Too bad there is little tolerance for artistic license here in this thread. With friends like you, the Chosen team doesn't need enemies.
 

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And boring, which explains its lack of relative commercial success.

The Chosen is not about the Bible or Jesus but its tangential proximity to it offends those who treat it as an IDOL. I asked another anti-Chosen guy a question I want to ask you. Do you believe the only words Jesus spoke are contained in the Bible?

The Chosen is about the people Jesus choose. It's a fresh look at a beloved story. I love how they downplayed the actual sermon on the mount. The story centers around Matthew not understanding the parables and introducing the character of Judas. The episode ends with Jesus pulling back the curtain to address the masses. And then the next episode begins after the sermon is over with some flash backs to it without words and perhaps in slow motion.

Another episode presents a fictional back story to the young Gospel writer, Mark, where it was his house that our Lord ate his last supper. Mark's father was also introduced and the writing of how it all came together was very entertaining and creative, providing much more depth than the Bible. "Jesus wept" may be factual but this show brings the emotion and the context to life in a powerful way.

It's art, Christian art. Better than Satanic art. Too bad there is little tolerance for artistic license here in this thread. With friends like you, the Chosen team doesn't need enemies.
This coming from a mocker who declares that Jesus lied.
 

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And boring, which explains its lack of relative commercial success.
I guess the scripture is boring to some. Have you ever watched it? Maybe it didn't make much money but it was a critical success:
The 2003 film The Gospel of John was a critical success within its niche, highly praised for its strict adherence to the biblical text and high production values, boasting an 89% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. It grossed over $4 million at the Box Office and is regarded as a faithful, scholarly, and artistic, yet long (3-hour), word-for-word adaptation

I suggest you watch it....it is FAR from boring.
 
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Yes. Absolutely. Yes or no answers please:
  1. Was the girl sleeping (or dead)?
According to who's perpective? Your's? Or God's?

For this you call Jesus, "I am the way, the truth, and the life", a liar.
  1. Was Solomon’s temple re-built in 3 days?

Read the passage again before calling God a liar. He spoke concerning His body, "this temple".
  1. Is cannibalism approved by God in the OT?
What?? What does this have to do with whether Jesus is a liar??
  1. Is it reasonable to speak in parables and be frustrated people don’t get what is being said?
Again, not germain to the point.
  1. Is not answering a direct question directly consistent with telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
You are just piling on here in your determination to tear down Jesus Christ, God in flesh.


Why are you so desparate to make out that God is a liar? Men are the liars, not God.

For shame!
 
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I guess the scripture is boring to some. Have you ever watched it? Maybe it didn't make much money but it was a critical success:


I suggest you watch it....it is FAR from boring.
I watch these movies repeatedly. Let not the man who is bored by the Gospel assume others have that same lack of appreciation.

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I watch these movies repeatedly. Let not the man who is bored by the Gospel assume others have that same lack of appreciation.

Much love!
I mean, the poor guy doesn't even know who Jesus is. He thinks Jesus is a created being.
 
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I mean, the poor guy doesn't even know who Jesus is. He thinks Jesus is a created being.
I can only imagine this has a huge impact on one's ideas about what Jesus is like, and how He was here on the earth.

This idea of Matthew helping Jesus write the Sermon on the Mount, isn't it written that Jesus said what the Father said? That His doctrine was not His own, but the Father's Who sent Him?

So then where does someone have the right to say Matthew contributed as well? Jesus only spoke what the Father and the tax collector told Him? That just doesn't have a ring of truth about it, now, does it?

To me, this is such a simple thing. "The Chosen" distorts the Gospel, and distorts the presentation of the person of Jesus Christ, in many demeaning ways. The writer uses wholesale fabrications intermixed with Biblical narrative. Personally, my thinking is that making up stories that demean Jesus and His Apostles does not sound like a very good idea, nor is it worthy of our salvation.

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This idea of Matthew helping Jesus write the Sermon on the Mount, isn't it written that Jesus said what the Father said? That His doctrine was not His own, but the Father's Who sent Him?
Much love!

I believe, Bibles used to say….
The Gospel According to….Matthew…
to Mark…
to Luke…
to John…

As each Apostle was sent out to Preach…
And while they were Preaching…
A “scribe” was writing what they were saying.
The “scribe” would then take his writings to a “recorder”, that would copy the writings onto “scrolls”…
Then there would be made copies of the “scrolls” and distributed.

As lands were conquered, overrun, some scrolls were confiscated, some burned, some hidden.

And the ones burned, were supposed to be “Remade” from memory.

All similar to a protocol, from OT fathers.

Glory to God,
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I can only imagine this has a huge impact on one's ideas about what Jesus is like, and how He was here on the earth.

This idea of Matthew helping Jesus write the Sermon on the Mount, isn't it written that Jesus said what the Father said? That His doctrine was not His own, but the Father's Who sent Him?

So then where does someone have the right to say Matthew contributed as well? Jesus only spoke what the Father and the tax collector told Him? That just doesn't have a ring of truth about it, now, does it?

To me, this is such a simple thing. "The Chosen" distorts the Gospel, and distorts the presentation of the person of Jesus Christ, in many demeaning ways. The writer uses wholesale fabrications intermixed with Biblical narrative. Personally, my thinking is that making up stories that demean Jesus and His Apostles does not sound like a very good idea, nor is it worthy of our salvation.

Much love!
I have watched all of the chosen so far. Here are the issues I have, which go beyond "artistic license"

1) Matthew as austistic
2) Mary Magdalene as a backslider
3) Nicodemus as being called to follow Jesus and refusing.
4)Peter viewing John the Baptist as "creepy John" (highly insulting)
5)Jesus refusing to heal Ramah (Thomas's fictional fiancé)
 
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I guess the scripture is boring to some. Have you ever watched it? Maybe it didn't make much money but it was a critical success:

There is the IDOLATRY again. IMO, the Bible is not written to be entertaining. It is foolish to:
  1. put it on par with entertainment
  2. (and here is where the IDOLATRY comes in)And hold it, by doctrinal decree, to be more entertaining than any other artwork man can produce.
I suggest you watch it....it is FAR from boring.
I did watch the boring production of the word for word John. By comparison, The Chosen has grossed over $280M, 70x more commercially successful than a verbatim of known information.
 

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"I'll put a pillow over my ear [so I don't hear Simon and Eden having sex]" - Nathaniel in THE CHOSEN.​

Not all Jesus movies contain gratuitous references to the disciples’ sexual behavior, but THE CHOSEN does.

This is unbiblical and due to the warped imagination of the Dallas Jenkins team.
 
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