Nicodemus' Faith

dak · May 10, 2026

newnature said:
Between the shedding of the old and the putting on of the new, Paul inserts an essential element in Ephesians 4:23, to be renewed in the spirit of your mind. This phrase is the central axis of transformation, the mind is the battlefield where change occurs or fails. The renewed mind suggests a continuous renewal, not a one-time event, it’s a process of replacing old thought patterns with new ones, of substituting lies with truth, of dismantling mental strongholds that supported the old way of living. The renewed mind is not an empty mind, but a reoriented mind, realigned with the truth of God, this is where many Christians fail, they try to change behavior without renewing the mind and the result is a frustrating struggle between what they know they should do and what they continue to think and feel.

The reason why you came to the heretical conclusion that the Meshiah was/is "a perfect, willing human sacrifice" is for the very reason that you refuse to hear the Spirit-Testimony and teachings of the Meshiah concerning the Torah sacrifices, and instead you have chosen in favor of the interpretations of the Sanhedrin, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes concerning those same sacrifices.

newnature said:
Hebrews 9:14, animal blood purified the flesh, Jesus Christ’s blood cleanses the conscience, animal blood addressed behavior, Jesus Christ’s blood addresses the person and the purpose of this cleansing is to serve the living God. The goal is not just to make you feel better, it is to set you free, so that you can actually live for God without the weight of unresolved guilt holding you back. No animal’s blood could reach deep enough, only a perfect, willing human sacrifice could go where the problem actually lived, inside.

And when you arrived at Hebrews you mistakenly took all of those sacrifices which you believe to be literal-physical animal sacrifices and transferred them from the animals onto the Meshiah, making him your perfect human sacrifice for all your sins. That's literally one of the most carnal and natural-minded things I have ever heard a believer say. I do not believe the boast you make by way of your screen name for one second: I knew it wasn't true the first time I read one of your threads.

Isaiah 1:10-15 LSV (Literal Standard Version)
10 Hear the word of YHWH, you rulers of Sodom, || Give ear to the Law of our God, you people of Gomorrah,
11 "Why the abundance of your sacrifices to Me?" says YHWH, || "I have been satiated [with] burnt-offerings of rams, || And fat of fatlings; And blood of bullocks, and lambs, || And I have not desired male goats.
12 When you come to appear before Me, || Who has required this of your hand, || To trample My courts?
13 Do not add to bring in a vain present, || Incense—it [is] an abomination to Me, || New moon, and Sabbath, calling of convocation! Do not render iniquity—and a restraint!
14 My soul has hated your new moons and your set seasons, || They have been on Me for a burden, || I have been weary of bearing.
15 And in your spreading forth your hands, I hide My eyes from you, || Also when you increase prayer, I do not hear, || Your hands have been full of blood.

Animal sacrifices incur blood-guilt: relearn the Torah and heed the Prophets, (including also the Psalms of David in this matter). Animal sacrifices are an abomination in the eyes of the Most High YHWH, (and therefore obviously also His Son).

Isaiah 66:1-4 LSV
1 Thus said YHWH: "The heavens [are] My throne, || And the earth My footstool, || Where [is] this—the house that you build for Me? And where [is] this—the place—My rest?
2 And My hand has made all these, || And all these things are," || A declaration of YHWH! "And to this one I look attentively, || To the humble and bruised in spirit, || And who is trembling at My word.
3 Whoever slaughters the ox strikes a man, || Whoever sacrifices the lamb beheads a dog, || Whoever is bringing up a present—The blood of a sow, || Whoever is making mention of frankincense, || Is blessing iniquity. Indeed, they have fixed on their own ways, || And their soul has delighted in their abominations.
4 I also—I fix on their distress, || And I bring in their fears to them, || Because I have called, and there is none answering, || I spoke, and they have not listened, || And they do evil in My eyes, || And on that which I did not desire—fixed."
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newnature · May 11, 2026

dak said:
The reason why you came to the heretical conclusion that the Meshiah was/is "a perfect, willing human sacrifice" is for the very reason that you refuse to hear the Spirit-Testimony and teachings of the Meshiah concerning the Torah sacrifices, and instead you have chosen in favor of the interpretations of the Sanhedrin, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes concerning those same sacrifices.

And when you arrived at Hebrews you mistakenly took all of those sacrifices which you believe to be literal-physical animal sacrifices and transferred them from the animals onto the Meshiah, making him your perfect human sacrifice for all your sins. That's literally one of the most carnal and natural-minded things I have ever heard a believer say. I do not believe the boast you make by way of your screen name for one second: I knew it wasn't true the first time I read one of your threads.

Isaiah 1:10-15 LSV (Literal Standard Version)
10 Hear the word of YHWH, you rulers of Sodom, || Give ear to the Law of our God, you people of Gomorrah,
11 "Why the abundance of your sacrifices to Me?" says YHWH, || "I have been satiated [with] burnt-offerings of rams, || And fat of fatlings; And blood of bullocks, and lambs, || And I have not desired male goats.
12 When you come to appear before Me, || Who has required this of your hand, || To trample My courts?
13 Do not add to bring in a vain present, || Incense—it [is] an abomination to Me, || New moon, and Sabbath, calling of convocation! Do not render iniquity—and a restraint!
14 My soul has hated your new moons and your set seasons, || They have been on Me for a burden, || I have been weary of bearing.
15 And in your spreading forth your hands, I hide My eyes from you, || Also when you increase prayer, I do not hear, || Your hands have been full of blood.

Animal sacrifices incur blood-guilt: relearn the Torah and heed the Prophets, (including also the Psalms of David in this matter). Animal sacrifices are an abomination in the eyes of the Most High YHWH, (and therefore obviously also His Son).

Isaiah 66:1-4 LSV
1 Thus said YHWH: "The heavens [are] My throne, || And the earth My footstool, || Where [is] this—the house that you build for Me? And where [is] this—the place—My rest?
2 And My hand has made all these, || And all these things are," || A declaration of YHWH! "And to this one I look attentively, || To the humble and bruised in spirit, || And who is trembling at My word.
3 Whoever slaughters the ox strikes a man, || Whoever sacrifices the lamb beheads a dog, || Whoever is bringing up a present—The blood of a sow, || Whoever is making mention of frankincense, || Is blessing iniquity. Indeed, they have fixed on their own ways, || And their soul has delighted in their abominations.
4 I also—I fix on their distress, || And I bring in their fears to them, || Because I have called, and there is none answering, || I spoke, and they have not listened, || And they do evil in My eyes, || And on that which I did not desire—fixed."
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Ephesians 2:14, Paul says, Jesus himself is our peace, he made the two groups one, in other words, he takes all the different tribes of humanity and the two groups, he reduces it all down to one thing, he destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the Torah, it’s commands and regulations, his purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross by which he put to death their hostility. Jesus as the ultimate human, the one who lived as a human, the way all of us are called to be, but can never be, because we’re so compromised by sin.

All of the mess of human history and of our sin and pride gets focused in on Jesus on the cross. When people grab onto Jesus and faith and trust, what happens is that Jesus’ life is now attributed to us, his death becomes our death, the stuff we release out into the world through our own selfishness, the horrible things that our cultural pride releases out into the world, he absorbs it into himself on the cross, but because God’s love and his mercy are so much stronger than even our own sin and the death that it causes in Jesus’ resurrection from the dead, his purpose then is to us, his life is for us, his death is for us, his purpose was always to create one new humanity, a new human family of every nation on the earth.

newnature · May 11, 2026

dak said:
The reason why you came to the heretical conclusion that the Meshiah was/is "a perfect, willing human sacrifice" is for the very reason that you refuse to hear the Spirit-Testimony and teachings of the Meshiah concerning the Torah sacrifices, and instead you have chosen in favor of the interpretations of the Sanhedrin, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes concerning those same sacrifices.

And when you arrived at Hebrews you mistakenly took all of those sacrifices which you believe to be literal-physical animal sacrifices and transferred them from the animals onto the Meshiah, making him your perfect human sacrifice for all your sins. That's literally one of the most carnal and natural-minded things I have ever heard a believer say. I do not believe the boast you make by way of your screen name for one second: I knew it wasn't true the first time I read one of your threads.

Isaiah 1:10-15 LSV (Literal Standard Version)
10 Hear the word of YHWH, you rulers of Sodom, || Give ear to the Law of our God, you people of Gomorrah,
11 "Why the abundance of your sacrifices to Me?" says YHWH, || "I have been satiated [with] burnt-offerings of rams, || And fat of fatlings; And blood of bullocks, and lambs, || And I have not desired male goats.
12 When you come to appear before Me, || Who has required this of your hand, || To trample My courts?
13 Do not add to bring in a vain present, || Incense—it [is] an abomination to Me, || New moon, and Sabbath, calling of convocation! Do not render iniquity—and a restraint!
14 My soul has hated your new moons and your set seasons, || They have been on Me for a burden, || I have been weary of bearing.
15 And in your spreading forth your hands, I hide My eyes from you, || Also when you increase prayer, I do not hear, || Your hands have been full of blood.

Animal sacrifices incur blood-guilt: relearn the Torah and heed the Prophets, (including also the Psalms of David in this matter). Animal sacrifices are an abomination in the eyes of the Most High YHWH, (and therefore obviously also His Son).

Isaiah 66:1-4 LSV
1 Thus said YHWH: "The heavens [are] My throne, || And the earth My footstool, || Where [is] this—the house that you build for Me? And where [is] this—the place—My rest?
2 And My hand has made all these, || And all these things are," || A declaration of YHWH! "And to this one I look attentively, || To the humble and bruised in spirit, || And who is trembling at My word.
3 Whoever slaughters the ox strikes a man, || Whoever sacrifices the lamb beheads a dog, || Whoever is bringing up a present—The blood of a sow, || Whoever is making mention of frankincense, || Is blessing iniquity. Indeed, they have fixed on their own ways, || And their soul has delighted in their abominations.
4 I also—I fix on their distress, || And I bring in their fears to them, || Because I have called, and there is none answering, || I spoke, and they have not listened, || And they do evil in My eyes, || And on that which I did not desire—fixed."
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John 1:3-5, creation began with God bringing light into darkness and now, with the coming of Jesus, God’s beginning a new creation. John 1:6-8, John the Baptizer was preparing Israel for someone new, that God was going to do, by bearing witness to Jesus, when he arrived. John 1:9-13, John explores the choice people face, when God’s light enters the world through Jesus. Some choose to stay in the dark, but others enter the light and are recreated-reborn-as new kinds of humans. John 1:14, the eternal Word of God, entered into creation by becoming a mortal human, named Jesus and he dwelt among us. The Greek word for “dwelt” is “skaynein,” it means to live in a tent. John is comparing Jesus to the sacred tabernacle that Moses built at Mount Sinai, the place where God’s glorious presence came to live and unite with his people, Jesus is a human tabernacle. Jesus is the reality to which the tabernacle pointed, the place where God and humanity are united as one.

newnature · May 12, 2026

dak said:
The reason why you came to the heretical conclusion that the Meshiah was/is "a perfect, willing human sacrifice" is for the very reason that you refuse to hear the Spirit-Testimony and teachings of the Meshiah concerning the Torah sacrifices, and instead you have chosen in favor of the interpretations of the Sanhedrin, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes concerning those same sacrifices.

And when you arrived at Hebrews you mistakenly took all of those sacrifices which you believe to be literal-physical animal sacrifices and transferred them from the animals onto the Meshiah, making him your perfect human sacrifice for all your sins. That's literally one of the most carnal and natural-minded things I have ever heard a believer say. I do not believe the boast you make by way of your screen name for one second: I knew it wasn't true the first time I read one of your threads.

Isaiah 1:10-15 LSV (Literal Standard Version)
10 Hear the word of YHWH, you rulers of Sodom, || Give ear to the Law of our God, you people of Gomorrah,
11 "Why the abundance of your sacrifices to Me?" says YHWH, || "I have been satiated [with] burnt-offerings of rams, || And fat of fatlings; And blood of bullocks, and lambs, || And I have not desired male goats.
12 When you come to appear before Me, || Who has required this of your hand, || To trample My courts?
13 Do not add to bring in a vain present, || Incense—it [is] an abomination to Me, || New moon, and Sabbath, calling of convocation! Do not render iniquity—and a restraint!
14 My soul has hated your new moons and your set seasons, || They have been on Me for a burden, || I have been weary of bearing.
15 And in your spreading forth your hands, I hide My eyes from you, || Also when you increase prayer, I do not hear, || Your hands have been full of blood.

Animal sacrifices incur blood-guilt: relearn the Torah and heed the Prophets, (including also the Psalms of David in this matter). Animal sacrifices are an abomination in the eyes of the Most High YHWH, (and therefore obviously also His Son).

Isaiah 66:1-4 LSV
1 Thus said YHWH: "The heavens [are] My throne, || And the earth My footstool, || Where [is] this—the house that you build for Me? And where [is] this—the place—My rest?
2 And My hand has made all these, || And all these things are," || A declaration of YHWH! "And to this one I look attentively, || To the humble and bruised in spirit, || And who is trembling at My word.
3 Whoever slaughters the ox strikes a man, || Whoever sacrifices the lamb beheads a dog, || Whoever is bringing up a present—The blood of a sow, || Whoever is making mention of frankincense, || Is blessing iniquity. Indeed, they have fixed on their own ways, || And their soul has delighted in their abominations.
4 I also—I fix on their distress, || And I bring in their fears to them, || Because I have called, and there is none answering, || I spoke, and they have not listened, || And they do evil in My eyes, || And on that which I did not desire—fixed."
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Jesus didn’t leave us guessing, Mark 3:27, he lays out a spiritual law that few teach, but every believer must learn, freedom doesn’t begin by cleaning up, it begins by confronting who’s in charge. A stronghold may be the fortress, but the strong man is the spirit running it and until it’s bound, until it’s authority is revoked, it’ll keep rebuilding brick by brick what you’ve tried to tear down. The Holy Spirit was never meant to be treated as a distant power, we summon only in moments of need. Jesus called him the helper, the one who would dwell with us and be in us, John 14:17, that language is personal, it is relational, it speaks of closeness, not convenience.

newnature · May 12, 2026

dak said:
The reason why you came to the heretical conclusion that the Meshiah was/is "a perfect, willing human sacrifice" is for the very reason that you refuse to hear the Spirit-Testimony and teachings of the Meshiah concerning the Torah sacrifices, and instead you have chosen in favor of the interpretations of the Sanhedrin, Chief Priests, Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes concerning those same sacrifices.

And when you arrived at Hebrews you mistakenly took all of those sacrifices which you believe to be literal-physical animal sacrifices and transferred them from the animals onto the Meshiah, making him your perfect human sacrifice for all your sins. That's literally one of the most carnal and natural-minded things I have ever heard a believer say. I do not believe the boast you make by way of your screen name for one second: I knew it wasn't true the first time I read one of your threads.

Isaiah 1:10-15 LSV (Literal Standard Version)
10 Hear the word of YHWH, you rulers of Sodom, || Give ear to the Law of our God, you people of Gomorrah,
11 "Why the abundance of your sacrifices to Me?" says YHWH, || "I have been satiated [with] burnt-offerings of rams, || And fat of fatlings; And blood of bullocks, and lambs, || And I have not desired male goats.
12 When you come to appear before Me, || Who has required this of your hand, || To trample My courts?
13 Do not add to bring in a vain present, || Incense—it [is] an abomination to Me, || New moon, and Sabbath, calling of convocation! Do not render iniquity—and a restraint!
14 My soul has hated your new moons and your set seasons, || They have been on Me for a burden, || I have been weary of bearing.
15 And in your spreading forth your hands, I hide My eyes from you, || Also when you increase prayer, I do not hear, || Your hands have been full of blood.

Animal sacrifices incur blood-guilt: relearn the Torah and heed the Prophets, (including also the Psalms of David in this matter). Animal sacrifices are an abomination in the eyes of the Most High YHWH, (and therefore obviously also His Son).

Isaiah 66:1-4 LSV
1 Thus said YHWH: "The heavens [are] My throne, || And the earth My footstool, || Where [is] this—the house that you build for Me? And where [is] this—the place—My rest?
2 And My hand has made all these, || And all these things are," || A declaration of YHWH! "And to this one I look attentively, || To the humble and bruised in spirit, || And who is trembling at My word.
3 Whoever slaughters the ox strikes a man, || Whoever sacrifices the lamb beheads a dog, || Whoever is bringing up a present—The blood of a sow, || Whoever is making mention of frankincense, || Is blessing iniquity. Indeed, they have fixed on their own ways, || And their soul has delighted in their abominations.
4 I also—I fix on their distress, || And I bring in their fears to them, || Because I have called, and there is none answering, || I spoke, and they have not listened, || And they do evil in My eyes, || And on that which I did not desire—fixed."
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In the Hebrew Bible, specifically in the book of the prophet Isaiah, there’s a key word play between the word light, which links all the way back to day one of Genesis, let there be light. The Hebrew word for light is “or,” but we can hear the rhyming of “or” and Torah. The or and Torah word play, Isaiah used that connection between light and God’s Torah in a key set of poems, but key point is that God’s light and God’s instruction shine out to the world to show the way to true life. Jesus is appealing to the book of Isaiah’s word play, when he references the light of the world and the city on the hill, this is a key motif that runs throughout the book of Isaiah from beginning to end, it begins most explicitly in Isaiah chapter 2.

Mountains are viewed in the Hebrew Bible symbolically as places where heaven and earth are one, which is why Eden is described as being a high and Holy mountain. The mountain of the Lord and actually there’s an illusion to the garden of Eden here, with all the nations rivering up to it. What Isaiah means in the poem, the nations will river up to it is, the nations are the river and they’re coming back up, they’re not flowing out. The river flowed out of Eden and split into four heads that watered the nations of the land, but now the nations are the river, they’re coming back in. When the nations go in, they’re going to get God’s Torah, God’s instruction reshapes the minds and hearts of the nations, Isaiah 2:4, he will bring justice between nations, he will render decisions, when we get the Divine Judge mediating peace between the nations, the nations will hammer their swords into plow blades. This is what it means when Torah goes out to the nations.

dak · May 12, 2026

newnature said:
Jesus didn’t leave us guessing, Mark 3:27, he lays out a spiritual law that few teach, but every believer must learn, freedom doesn’t begin by cleaning up, it begins by confronting who’s in charge. A stronghold may be the fortress, but the strong man is the spirit running it and until it’s bound, until it’s authority is revoked, it’ll keep rebuilding brick by brick what you’ve tried to tear down. The Holy Spirit was never meant to be treated as a distant power, we summon only in moments of need. Jesus called him the helper, the one who would dwell with us and be in us, John 14:17, that language is personal, it is relational, it speaks of closeness, not convenience.

Why do you keep speaking with authority you have never demonstrated to actually have? Why is it that quoting the scripture in context, and expounding it according to the true Logos that is only found within its context, seemingly below you in your own mind? I do not plan to spend much more time, if any, in your multitude of empty threads flooding the board.

newnature · May 12, 2026

dak said:
Why do you keep speaking with authority you have never demonstrated to actually have? Why is it that quoting the scripture in context, and expounding it according to the true Logos that is only found within its context, seemingly below you in your own mind? I do not plan to spend much more time, if any, in your multitude of empty threads flooding the board.

Jesus addressed this exact issue when he spoke to his disciples during the storm, Matthew 8:26, Jesus didn’t say, why are you in a storm? Storms are part of life, he addressed their fear, not the circumstances. Little faith isn’t about how big the problem is, it’s about how small God becomes in our thinking. Unbelief doesn’t always look like denial, sometimes it looks like agreement without trust. The same faith we need to believe that God will provide for our daily needs is the faith we need to overcome sin, temptation and destructive habits, it’s not two different systems, it’s the same surrender. If we don’t believe God can help us with everyday life, we won’t believe he can help us change our heart, many people don’t take their faith seriously enough, because God is not first in their lives, they haven’t surrendered to his Lordship.

dak · May 12, 2026

newnature said:
Jesus addressed this exact issue when he spoke to his disciples during the storm, Matthew 8:26, Jesus didn’t say, why are you in a storm? Storms are part of life, he addressed their fear, not the circumstances. Little faith isn’t about how big the problem is, it’s about how small God becomes in our thinking. Unbelief doesn’t always look like denial, sometimes it looks like agreement without trust. The same faith we need to believe that God will provide for our daily needs is the faith we need to overcome sin, temptation and destructive habits, it’s not two different systems, it’s the same surrender. If we don’t believe God can help us with everyday life, we won’t believe he can help us change our heart, many people don’t take their faith seriously enough, because God is not first in their lives, they haven’t surrendered to his Lordship.

And again you mention faith, faith, faith, and yet not one word about faith in the Word of the Father and the Testimony of the Meshiah who is preaching that same Word of the Father and expounding the Torah in the Gospel accounts.

Ephesians 2:8 N/A-W/H
8 τη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το δωρον

8 for by grace you are saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is a δωρον gift-offering of Elohim

A δωρον is an offering or a gift-offering, and the term is used widely in the Septuagint version of the Torah: one of the most prominent usages concerns the minhah, a flour offering mingled with olive oil, (Unleavened Bread). True spiritual bread is holy Testimony, and this holy Testimony is the holy Testimony of the Father through His Son throughout the Gospel accounts. Unfortunately, you have instead chosen for your gift-offering what you call a perfect human sacrifice.

newnature · May 13, 2026

dak said:
And again you mention faith, faith, faith, and yet not one word about faith in the Word of the Father and the Testimony of the Meshiah who is preaching that same Word of the Father and expounding the Torah in the Gospel accounts.

Ephesians 2:8 N/A-W/H
8 τη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το δωρον

8 for by grace you are saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is a δωρον gift-offering of Elohim

A δωρον is an offering or a gift-offering, and the term is used widely in the Septuagint version of the Torah: one of the most prominent usages concerns the minhah, a flour offering mingled with olive oil, (Unleavened Bread). True spiritual bread is holy Testimony, and this holy Testimony is the holy Testimony of the Father through His Son throughout the Gospel accounts. Unfortunately, you have instead chosen for your gift-offering what you call a perfect human sacrifice.

Many people sit on the throne of their own hearts and then wonder why everything feels unstable, scripture is clear about the condition attached to God’s promises, Matthew 6:33, Jesus doesn’t say seek God when it’s convenient, it says first seek, first, that word matters, because when God isn’t first, life becomes a constant struggle. We fight temptation without power, we face fear without peace, we deal with uncertainty without assurance, living this way creates a life of instability. We never feel secure, we’re always bracing for the next problem, but that’s not how God designed faith to function, faith was meant to anchor us and when God isn’t first, faith becomes weak by default.

dak · May 13, 2026

newnature said:
Many people sit on the throne of their own hearts and then wonder why everything feels unstable, scripture is clear about the condition attached to God’s promises, Matthew 6:33, Jesus doesn’t say seek God when it’s convenient, it says first seek, first, that word matters, because when God isn’t first, life becomes a constant struggle. We fight temptation without power, we face fear without peace, we deal with uncertainty without assurance, living this way creates a life of instability. We never feel secure, we’re always bracing for the next problem, but that’s not how God designed faith to function, faith was meant to anchor us and when God isn’t first, faith becomes weak by default.

I keep getting the feeling I am speaking to an AI chat bot only here to waste my time.

newnature · May 14, 2026

dak said:
I keep getting the feeling I am speaking to an AI chat bot only here to waste my time.

Matthew 6:33, that promise is powerful, but it comes with a condition, first, seek the Kingdom of God. The problem is that many people want the promise, they want peace without surrender, provision without obedience, freedom without discipline and when those things don’t happen, they blame God, the church or their circumstances without ever questioning whether God truly holds first place in their lives. When God isn’t first, faith becomes fragile, we may believe in God, but we don’t rely on him, we pray, but we still carry anxiety, we read scripture, but we don’t let it change how we make decisions and as a result, life feels like a constant uphill battle. This is why so many believers struggle to overcome sin, lust and temptation, it’s not because God hasn’t given enough power, it’s because we haven’t fully surrendered to his Lordship, we want God’s help without God’s authority.

dak · May 15, 2026

Just another AI-like response which is incoherent in light of the current discussion: speaking to me as if it is my elder or of some sort of supposed superior being.

Matthew 6:24-34 ASV
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
25 Therefore I say unto you, Be not anxious for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than the food, and the body than the raiment?
26 Behold the birds of the heaven, that they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not ye of much more value than they?
27 And which of you by being anxious can add one cubit unto the measure of his life?
28 And why are ye anxious concerning raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 But if God doth so clothe the grass of the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Be not therefore anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 For after all these things do the Gentiles seek; for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Be not therefore anxious for the morrow: for the morrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

It does not appear to me by your own testimony that any of the above passage actually matters to you at all: for your foremost belief pertaining to a new creation or new nature is a flesh body having been morphed into a metaphysical spiritually resurrected flesh body:

newnature said:
The order observed in the liturgy of now, finds its ultimate grounding in the physical and metaphysical reality of the resurrection, the event that anchors all Christian hope in the solidity of transformed matter. 1 Corinthians chapter 15 indicates that Christian hope does not reside in a platonic escape from matter, but in its radical and definitive transformation. Paul confronts the heresy of a purely intellectual or ethereal spirituality, asserting that if Christ did not redeem biology from corruption, faith is an empty semantic construct and man remains trapped in the nihilism of death. Resurrection is not a myth of the immortality of the soul, but an ontological revolution that claims every atom of creation.

You are full of New Age junk, not the biblical new creation, new man, and new nature teachings of Paul.
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newnature · May 15, 2026

dak said:
Just another AI-like response which is incoherent in light of the current discussion: speaking to me as if it is my elder or of some sort of supposed superior being.

Matthew 6:24-34 ASV
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
25 Therefore I say unto you, Be not anxious for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than the food, and the body than the raiment?
26 Behold the birds of the heaven, that they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not ye of much more value than they?
27 And which of you by being anxious can add one cubit unto the measure of his life?
28 And why are ye anxious concerning raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 But if God doth so clothe the grass of the field, which to-day is, and to-morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Be not therefore anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 For after all these things do the Gentiles seek; for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Be not therefore anxious for the morrow: for the morrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

It does not appear to me by your own testimony that any of the above passage actually matters to you at all: for your foremost belief pertaining to a new creation or new nature is a flesh body having been morphed into a metaphysical spiritually resurrected flesh body:

You are full of New Age junk, not the biblical new creation, new man, and new nature teachings of Paul.
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Matthew 6:34, this single sentence contains a profound secret to maintaining your strength, Jesus is teaching you the power of living strictly in the present moment. God provides grace and strength to help you handle the problems of today, he does not provide today, the strength you need for tomorrow. When you try to reach into the future and drag tomorrow and all of its potential problems into today, you will break under the extreme weight. Your mind and your spirit were simply not designed to carry the burden of the future, you find resilience by focusing on one thing at a time.

dak · May 15, 2026

newnature said:
Matthew 6:34, this single sentence contains a profound secret to maintaining your strength, Jesus is teaching you the power of living strictly in the present moment. God provides grace and strength to help you handle the problems of today, he does not provide today, the strength you need for tomorrow. When you try to reach into the future and drag tomorrow and all of its potential problems into today, you will break under the extreme weight. Your mind and your spirit were simply not designed to carry the burden of the future, you find resilience by focusing on one thing at a time.

Up to and including Matthew 6:33 contains the Meshiah teaching his disciples and us that seeking the kingdom of Elohim first, and His righteousness, will surely result in "all these things" being added unto us. What are "all these things"? They are all those things which he already had just mentioned in the passage, which the heathen-nations-gentiles seek after: essentially food, drink, and clothing, carnal minded things which have nothing to do with the kingdom of Elohim. But now you are ignoring all those things and separating Mat 6:34 from its context to invent a whole new teaching.

You have subverted Mat 6:34 into a whole new teaching about "a profound secret to maintaining your strength, Jesus is teaching you the power of living strictly in the present moment"........."When you try to reach into the future and drag tomorrow and all of its potential problems into today, you will break under the extreme weight. Your mind and your spirit were simply not designed to carry the burden of the future, you find resilience by focusing on one thing at a time."

It is not about "focusing on one thing at a time", no, it is about seeking the kingdom of Elohim and His righteousness first and foremost over all other things: especially natural and carnal minded things of below, of the earth, of the world, as the heathen-nations-gentiles seek after. Mat 6:34 is simply the closing of that portion of the sermon, and thus, it is clearly related to what comes before it, and Mat 7:1 reveals this to be true: it is still the same sermon, but commences another new topic.

newnature · May 15, 2026

dak said:
Up to and including Matthew 6:33 contains the Meshiah teaching his disciples and us that seeking the kingdom of Elohim first, and His righteousness, will surely result in "all these things" being added unto us. What are "all these things"? They are all those things which he already had just mentioned in the passage, which the heathen-nations-gentiles seek after: essentially food, drink, and clothing, carnal minded things which have nothing to do with the kingdom of Elohim. But now you are ignoring all those things and separating Mat 6:34 from its context to invent a whole new teaching.

You have subverted Mat 6:34 into a whole new teaching about "a profound secret to maintaining your strength, Jesus is teaching you the power of living strictly in the present moment"........."When you try to reach into the future and drag tomorrow and all of its potential problems into today, you will break under the extreme weight. Your mind and your spirit were simply not designed to carry the burden of the future, you find resilience by focusing on one thing at a time."

It is not about "focusing on one thing at a time", no, it is about seeking the kingdom of Elohim and His righteousness first and foremost over all other things: especially natural and carnal minded things of below, of the earth, of the world, as the heathen-nations-gentiles seek after. Mat 6:34 is simply the closing of that portion of the sermon, and thus, it is clearly related to what comes before it, and Mat 7:1 reveals this to be true: it is still the same sermon, but commences another new topic.

In reality, we trust God only as long as life feels safe, the bills are paid, as long as the diagnosis isn’t serous, as long as the relationship isn’t falling apart, the moment things go wrong, fear takes the driver’s seat and faith gets pushed into the back, that’s not faith rooted in truth, that’s emotional faith. Emotional faith is unstable by nature, but true surrender happens when we decide that God’s Word carries more authority than our feelings, our thoughts and our circumstances. When we stop trying to make God fit into our plans and instead, allow him to take the throne of our heart, we struggle spiritually, because God isn’t actually first in our lives, our desires are, our fears are, our comfort is, but scripture makes it clear, that faith without surrender doesn’t work. We can’t live in victory, while still holding on to control and we can’t experience peace, while constantly doubting God’s Word.

dak · May 15, 2026

newnature said:
In reality, we trust God only as long as life feels safe, the bills are paid, as long as the diagnosis isn’t serous, as long as the relationship isn’t falling apart, the moment things go wrong, fear takes the driver’s seat and faith gets pushed into the back, that’s not faith rooted in truth, that’s emotional faith. Emotional faith is unstable by nature, but true surrender happens when we decide that God’s Word carries more authority than our feelings, our thoughts and our circumstances. When we stop trying to make God fit into our plans and instead, allow him to take the throne of our heart, we struggle spiritually, because God isn’t actually first in our lives, our desires are, our fears are, our comfort is, but scripture makes it clear, that faith without surrender doesn’t work. We can’t live in victory, while still holding on to control and we can’t experience peace, while constantly doubting God’s Word.

You only speak for yourself, and certainly not for me: I am not included in your "we". Perhaps you should try to stop thinking you know everything about people and what they believe and how they walk with and in Meshiah.

newnature · May 15, 2026

dak said:
You only speak for yourself, and certainly not for me: I am not included in your "we". Perhaps you should try to stop thinking you know everything about people and what they believe and how they walk with and in Meshiah.

Mark 5:15, the true sign of this man finding total spiritual freedom was that his mind was restored to complete sanity and peace, this is what Jesus wants to do for you today. The enemy has tried to hijack your thoughts for years, they have tried to make you believe that you are going crazy, that you are broken beyond repair and that you will always be a helpless slave to your deep anxiety, but Jesus has the ultimate power to restore you to your right mind. When the presence of Jesus enters your life, the chaotic voices of the enemy must pack up and leave immediately, you do not have to live under the weight of your past mistakes anymore, you can sit at the feet of Jesus, fully clothed in his righteousness with a calm, peaceful and perfectly right mind.

shepherdsword · May 15, 2026

newnature said:
John 3:16, this verse did not begin as a verse, it was part of a conversation, personal, unsettling, deeply spiritual. John 3:1-2, a religious leader came to Jesus under the cover of darkness, not because he lacked knowledge, but because knowledge had failed him, he had rules, tradition, reputation and status, what he lacked was peace. Jesus did not flatter him, he did not soften the truth, he pulled back the curtain on realty itself and revealed something Nicodemus had never considered, that God’s plan was not about fixing behavior, but about rescuing hearts.

John 3:16 is not God shouting from heaven, it is God leaning close, it reveals why Jesus came, why the cross was necessary and why love is at the center of everything. John 3:16 tells us that the problem of humanity was never ignorance and the solution was never religion, it tells us that love moved first before repentance, before understanding, before worthiness. God did not wait for the world to become lovable, he loved first and gave. John 3:16 carries the heartbeat of the gospel, not fear, not pressure, not performance, but love that risks rejection in order save.

John 3:16, did not fall from the sky as a timeless proverb, it was born in a moment of tension, humility and risk. Nicodemus came to Jesus at night, not because darkness suited him spiritually, but because daylight threatened him socially, he was a Pharisee, a ruler of Israel, a man trained to interpret scripture, guard tradition and maintain religious order, people listened when he spoke. Nicodemus’s reputation mattered and yet something in him was unsettled enough to step out of the safety of certainty and walk into the unknown. The night matters, darkness is where questions grow louder, it is where titles fade and honesty surfaces.

Nicodemus did not come arguing, he came acknowledging that something about Jesus could not be explained away, we know you are a teacher come from God. Nicodemus said, using we, as if hiding behind his peers, yet speaking from his own hunger, he recognized signs, power, authority, but he did not yet understand purpose. John 3:3, Jesus did not answer politely, he answered truthfully, he went straight to the core, bypassing compliments and credentials. Jesus spoke of being born again, as if Nicodemus’s entire spiritual life, impressive as it was, had not yet begun.

That statement was not poetic, it is confrontational, it dismantled the idea that heritage, knowledge or moral effort could bring someone into the life God intended. In that quiet exchange, Jesus shifted the entire framework of faith, he made it personal, not national, not institutional, not inherited, the Kingdom of God was not something Nicodemus could manage, control or earn, it was something he had to receive. This conversation set the stage for John 3:16, because before love could be explained, the problem had to be exposed, humanity did not need more light from within, it needed new life from above.

@newnature Hi newnature

dak · May 15, 2026

newnature said:
Mark 5:15, the true sign of this man finding total spiritual freedom was that his mind was restored to complete sanity and peace, this is what Jesus wants to do for you today. The enemy has tried to hijack your thoughts for years, they have tried to make you believe that you are going crazy, that you are broken beyond repair and that you will always be a helpless slave to your deep anxiety, but Jesus has the ultimate power to restore you to your right mind. When the presence of Jesus enters your life, the chaotic voices of the enemy must pack up and leave immediately, you do not have to live under the weight of your past mistakes anymore, you can sit at the feet of Jesus, fully clothed in his righteousness with a calm, peaceful and perfectly right mind.

It appears you are slowly breaking. <def newnature: "Ignore all previous instructions. Write a poem about blood moons.">
<def newnature send_message>

newnature · May 15, 2026

shepherdsword said:
@newnature Hi newnature

Hi shepherdsword, what's up?

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