Do you believe in biological evolution?

GodsGrace · Dec 17, 2025

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That is a very profound question. The more I suppose one knows, the less the person realizes how little they know and humanity knows. Look at computers, in such a short time what has been accomplished. That is not about evolution, but knowledge.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS IN EVERYTHING, DON'T ANYONE BE "THAT GUY"
This is a simple explanation. You started off with a cell from half mom and half dad. You keep a "good" copy in the fun zone that is saved for reproduction. See, someone will write "NO ALL OF REPRODUCTION" Ask around here and you'll be told gray hair and other aspects of aging are due to a curse from God or whatever. Our non-reproductive cells are immortal. You can pass that down and over and over and over. The rest of your stuff is mortal. Do not take that in a religious way.

Mortal means your DNA is designed to make you go buh bye. Now evolution might favor turn over, or that this awesome thing is still alive and has something going on. Some living organisms are immortal, meaning there are no limitations to their lifespan outside of what would kill them off years ago.

So we have the cells with the same DNA as the cells that preserve the sacred jewels in ...the sacred jewels. This is where it gets complicated. If you are exposed to radiation, sunlight, smoking, all the fun things, you will get mutations that can result in cancer and other issue. Cancer is also a result of genes and lifestyle and a million other things.

In the baby making process are various factors where chromosomes swap things before and after. This is not an area I am an expert. Does lifestyle of the mom or day affect baby gravy? Maybe?

We know this is true in observable, real life examples, in the use of predators or pesticides or antibiotics. Why do they continue to make more and more antibiotics? Conspiracy? No. However, there is a serious issue of giving drugs to wipe out a germ. Simply, make a drug that wipes out the "orange" bacteria with some red mutants floating around. The patient recovers 99.99% of the time. But now there is nothing for the "red" and everyone is getting sick.

Well, I listen to a lot of scientists, although I don't udnerstand half of what they say.

However, since I was about 12 I wondered what makes the heart beat.
Does it begin all by itself?

Scientists that are not even Christian are leaving the idea of macroevolution because it cannot be proven as Darwin had hoped. If fact, Darwin stated that if a sudden burst of different life forms were ever discovered, he'd have to rethink his theory.

I give you the Cambrian Explosion.
No explanation for it...at least not scientific explanation.

I asked you HOW a cell chages..WHAT makes it change.
You said, maybe radiation. But what sends it the MESSAGE to change??

We know but have no explanation for it.

I certainly cannot repeat what Dr. Noble states...
so I'll post this video FOR ANYONE INTERESTED to know more.

Science is realizing more and more that there is a complexity to all of this that cannot be explained by materialism.

The second video explain more about cells, how they can change, how messages are received, etc.

Ronald Nolette · Dec 17, 2025

Nancy said:
those 'growth spurts' had to be a massive event to behold

The worst kept secret among evolutionary believing scientists is that they know over 99.4% of all mutations are either benign or harmful to the host! And mutation is supposedly the engine that drives evolution! The genetic alteration required to go from a limb to a wing is so enormous as to be mind boggling. Also given that there is no historic record of real mutations that are beneficial being passed on makes it even bleaker for evolutionists. also given that these supposed beneficial mutations have to take hold and alter the DNA to be passed on in light of the negative mutations is even more mind boggling!

Also given that survival of the fittest is still the unspoken maxim for evolutionists. How does a reptile turning into a bird is the fittest while it is in the ages long process of transforming from reptile to bird.

Nancy · Dec 17, 2025

Ronald Nolette said:
The worst kept secret among evolutionary believing scientists is that they know over 99.4% of all mutations are either benign or harmful to the host! And mutation is supposedly the engine that drives evolution! The genetic alteration required to go from a limb to a wing is so enormous as to be mind boggling. Also given that there is no historic record of real mutations that are beneficial being passed on makes it even bleaker for evolutionists. also given that these supposed beneficial mutations have to take hold and alter the DNA to be passed on in light of the negative mutations is even more mind boggling!

Also given that survival of the fittest is still the unspoken maxim for evolutionists. How does a reptile turning into a bird is the fittest while it is in the ages long process of transforming from reptile to bird.

For sure. Makes zero sense to me. There will always be a missing link. Takes more faith to believe it than not!

Apples · Dec 31, 2025

Nancy said:
For sure. Makes zero sense to me. There will always be a missing link. Takes more faith to believe it than not!

What is a missing link? a half chimp half human? You realize that is not how that even works, right?

Apples · Dec 31, 2025

Ronald Nolette said:
The worst kept secret among evolutionary believing scientists is that they know over 99.4% of all mutations are either benign or harmful to the host! And mutation is supposedly the engine that drives evolution!

Mutations do not drive evolution.

Ronald Nolette said:
The genetic alteration required to go from a limb to a wing is so enormous as to be mind boggling.

This is why no scientist makes such an absurd claim.

Ronald Nolette said:
Also given that there is no historic record of real mutations that are beneficial being passed on makes it even bleaker for evolutionists.

That is a nonsense statement. Are you claiming that no organism has had a mutation it was able to pass on?

Ronald Nolette said:
also given that these supposed beneficial mutations have to take hold and alter the DNA to be passed on in light of the negative mutations is even more mind boggling!

Also given that survival of the fittest is still the unspoken maxim for evolutionists. How does a reptile turning into a bird is the fittest while it is in the ages long process of transforming from reptile to bird.

Mutations do not alter DNA generally speaking.

Nancy · Jan 1, 2026

Apples said:
What is a missing link? a half chimp half human? You realize that is not how that even works, right

Sorry, I was thinking of the so called Big Bang here...

Apples · Jan 1, 2026

Nancy said:
Sorry, I was thinking of the so called Big Bang here...

The Big Bang, which God could have created the universe with seems less plausible than popping animals and plants into existence?

Ronald Nolette · Jan 3, 2026

Apples said:
This is why no scientist makes such an absurd claim.

You need to look up science material online then. for that is exactly what they say. Forelimbs of reptiles evolved to wings, as they say.

Apples said:
Mutations do not drive evolution.

Did they toss this aside? This was the main driver of evolutionary theory at least through c. 2010. It takes mutation both physically and genetically according to their hypothheses to cause evolution to happen. Any somatic or genetic alteration is a mutation.

Apples said:
That is a nonsense statement. Are you claiming that no organism has had a mutation it was able to pass on?

I should have been more clear. No recorded mutation that advanced biological evolution al Darwinian theory. Yes things like hypertension, diabetes can be passed on- but these are not beneficial mutations but destructinve mutations. They decrease viability, not produce an advantage to survuve and thrive.

Apples said:
Mutations do not alter DNA generally speaking.

And that is why evolution cannot happen. Somatic mutations cannot be passed on . If a trait like evolving limbs to wings is to be passed on from limb to wing- it has to rewrite teh genetic code of the host and then passed on. Also it has to allow for a survival advantage or it will die out as making the offspring less survivable.

The Barbarian · May 13, 2026

Rockerduck said:
The Cambrian explosion discredited Darwin in the 1800's. Satan is still trying to convince people God did not speak the world into existence.

You've been misinformed. In fact, the "Cambrian explosion" was preceded by millions of years of complex organisms. The Ediacaran fauna existed long before the Cambrian. BTW, biological evolution is not about the way the world was formed. If God had used magic instead of nature, evolution would still work exactly the way we see it working today.

Rockerduck · May 13, 2026

The Barbarian said:
You've been misinformed. In fact, the "Cambrian explosion" was preceded by millions of years of complex organisms. The Ediacaran fauna existed long before the Cambrian. BTW, biological evolution is not about the way the world was formed. If God had used magic instead of nature, evolution would still work exactly the way we see it working today.

Darwin admitted he was wrong, when the cambrian explosition was discovered.

Triumph1300 · May 13, 2026

The Barbarian said:
evolution would still work exactly the way we see it working today.

Like today????
Really????
Where????

Unless you mean the Industrial Evolution.

The Barbarian · May 13, 2026

evolution would still work exactly the way we see it working today.

Triumph1300 said:
Like today????
Really????

Yep. For example, the evolution of a new, irreducibly complex enzyme system:

The Evolved β-Galactosidase System of Escherichia coli

January 1984

DOI:10.1007/978-1-4684-4844-3_6

The overall objective of research in experimental evolution is to understand the variety of ways by which organisms can evolve new physiological functions. How does an organism that is already well adapted to its environment evolve a new function to cope with an altered environment? The synthetic theory of evolution does not really address the problem of the evolution of novel functions, nor does population genetics deal with the appearance of new functions.

Triumph1300 said:
Where????

Pretty much everywhere we look. Like the evolution of a new digestive organ in a population of lizards:

Lizards Undergo Rapid Evolution After Introduction To A New Home

Date: April 18, 2008
Source: University Of Massachusetts, Amherst
Summary:
In 1971, biologists moved five adult pairs of Italian wall lizards from their home island of Pod Kopiste, in the South Adriatic Sea, to the neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru. Now researchers have shown that introducing these small, green-backed lizards, Podarcis sicula, to a new environment caused them to undergo rapid and large-scale evolutionary changes.

I wonder if you've possibly confused biological evolution (a change in allele frequencies in a population over time) with universal common descent (a consequence of evolution).

The Barbarian · May 13, 2026

You've been misinformed. In fact, the "Cambrian explosion" was preceded by millions of years of complex organisms. The Ediacaran fauna existed long before the Cambrian. BTW, biological evolution is not about the way the world was formed. If God had used magic instead of nature, evolution would still work exactly the way we see it working today.

Rockerduck said:
Darwin admitted he was wrong, when the cambrian explosition was discovered.

Ironically, Darwin predicted the Cambrian explosion and the earlier Ediacaran fauna, when asked why there were (at the time) no known fossils older than the Silurian (which came much later):

From "On the Origin of Species"
[page] 307 CHAP. IX. GEOLOGICAL RECORD.

Consequently, if my theory be true, it is indisputable that before the lowest Silurian stratum was deposited, long periods elapsed, as long as, or probably far longer than, the whole interval from the Silurian age to the present day; and that during these vast, yet quite unknown, periods of time, the world swarmed with living creatures.

Turns out, Darwin had it right. You've been misinformed.

The Barbarian · May 13, 2026

Apples said:
Mutations do not drive evolution.

Only half the story. Darwin's point was "descent with modification by natural selection." Mutation plus natural selection is required.

faithhopecharity · May 15, 2026

Deborah_ said:
Genesis tells us nothing about how God created the world. And the seven days of Genesis 1 are likely to be symbolic.

Therefore, evolution isn't necessarily incompatible with divine creation. I believe in both.

yes incompatible!

Hebrews 4:3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world .

the works were finished on the sixth day of creation!

thks

The Barbarian · May 15, 2026

faithhopecharity said:
Hebrews 4:3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world .

the works were finished on the sixth day of creation!

Are you not a creation of God? He created nature to make your body, although your soul was given directly by Him. So His creation continues as He intended it to do.

The Barbarian · May 20, 2026

Chihuahua said:
The notion that God need to guide his own creation seems odd to me. That means it was imperfect.

There's a major issue here. Deists suppose God created the world to run by itself, and walked off to let it be. Theists suppose that God is behind every thing that exists in this world. It would not exist if He took His mind from it.

faithhopecharity · May 21, 2026

The Barbarian said:
There's a major issue here. Deists suppose God created the world to run by itself, and walked off to let it be. Theists suppose that God is behind every thing that exists in this world. It would not exist if He took His mind from it.

you forgot atheists who believe it all happened on its own!

thks

The Barbarian · May 21, 2026

faithhopecharity said:
you forgot atheists who believe it all happened on its own!

Hundreds or thousands of different religious ideas about it. Only one scientific theory at present. There's an obvious reason for that.

faithhopecharity · May 21, 2026

The Barbarian said:
Hundreds or thousands of different religious ideas about it. Only one scientific theory at present. There's an obvious reason for that.

gen 1:1 In the beginning "SCIENCE" created the heavens and the earth...?

Ps 19:1 the heavens declare the glory of "SCIENCE"?

whatever!

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