Pat Robertson endorses pro-homosexual and pro-abortion candidate

"To me, the overriding issue before the American people is the defense of our population from the blood-lust of Islamic terrorists," said Robertson, with Giuliani standing beside him. "Our second goal should be the control of massive government waste and crushing federal deficits." How hypocritical it is for us to say protect the people of this country Father and then vote for someone who is pro abortion. God help us

I agree with you John. 100%Father YHWH, in the name of Yahshua, please WAKE UP EVERYBODY, that they may have their common sense back. Amen!Jag

(jamesrage;21945)
A individual claiming to be a man of God and endorsing someone who pro-abortion and pro-homosexual is like the leader of the NAACP endorsing David Duke.
I agree with you too 100% James. (What's NAACP?) But the overall message I agree. We need to wake up the lost sheep.Jag

Preachers and priest should never ally themselves to, or endorse, politicians.I do not agree with abortion and would not condone it unless for medical reasons.What is the debate in the US on this issue? Is it a complete ban or limits on the time on which it can be carried out?

(Wise Haven;21953)
Preachers and priest should never ally themselves to, or endorse, politicians.I do not agree with abortion and would not condone it unless for medical reasons.What is the debate in the US on this issue? Is it a complete ban or limits on the time on which it can be carried out?
I agree Wise Haven 100% Christ said to beware of false doctrine. I hate abortion with a passion on every situation.Jag

Yes, I am strictly against abortion for reasons of social convenience.Where it is a medical necessity I think it is appropriate in the very early stages of pregnancy.In the cases of pregnancy after rape I think this is entirely a personal moral choice by the woman alone. Again in the earliest stages of pregnancy.Personally, I would not condone abortion for babies with known possible defects (Downs syndrome) etc as this smack too much of eugenics.But I always question the validity or necessity of too much government control of our lives. Less is best

This abortion talk always reminds me of a story I heard once If abortion was left in the hands of men to decide. If you were a judge and had to choose only one of the following cases to get an abortion which would you choose?Case #1A young married couple having no children but being very poor and claiming they could not afford a child so were asking for courts permission to abort the child of this unwanted pregnancyCase #2A 16 year old girl was raped and the rape resulted in a pregnancyshe had no means of support and was emotionally very distraughtfrom this horrid experience and was asking the court for permission to abort the childWhich abortion would you grant if you were the Judge?Bet most would out of compassion choose Case #2If you choose case #2 you would be aborting Michael Angelo (one of the greastest painter/sculpter of Great works of Art depicting scripture and the Bible)If you choose Case #1 you would be aborting Adolf Hitler (Killer of 6million Jews/type of antichrist)So you see why only God can decide these things as humans no matter how smart we think we are We Can Not play God.We do not have the wisdom. Only God has this wisdom

You will know them by their fruits.

(jamesrage;21986)
I would say neither. I the mother does not want the child then she can give it up for adoption.It is that simple.
Of course thats what a Christian would say we know betterBut that wasnt the point the point was to show how men can never be wise enough to make these these decisions even if they think they are doing the right thing. Most would have done the wrong thing feeling pity/compassion for the young girl thus depriving the World of a great artist while allowing a cruel dictator/murderer to be bornThe point was to show man can never know what is God's to know alone

(John;21915)
"To me, the overriding issue before the American people is the defense of our population from the blood-lust of Islamic terrorists," said Robertson, with Giuliani standing beside him. "Our second goal should be the control of massive government waste and crushing federal deficits." How hypocritical it is for us to say protect the people of this country Father and then vote for someone who is pro abortion. God help us
Consider the following: Why vote for anyone who has the "war spirit?" Is the killing of any human life acceptable in Christ's eyes?A quoteerfect Peace.—From the statement in Rom. 13:10, that “love worketh no ill to his neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,” it will be seen that Christian love does not possibly admit of wars and fightings. Its possession makes it impossible for one to say, as is frequently said in these days, “I have been an advocate of peace and arbitration for twenty-five years, but”—and then go on to say that under such provocation as now exists war is welcomed. “Love worketh no ill to his neighbor;” and no philosophy can ever make it appear that it does a man any good to kill him. When the soldiers asked John the Baptist what they should do, as followers of the Lamb of God, to whom he pointed, he replied, “Do violence to no man.” Luke 3:14. Those who asked were “soldiers on service,” as we see from the margin of the Revised Version. And the margin also gives as the alternative rendering of John’s answer, “Put no man in fear.” It would be a very mild war in which this command was followed. Love never does any harm to anybody; but love is active, since it is the life of God; therefore love is always doing good. Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, “went about doing good.” End QuoteJake

I find it odd that we make "abortion" the supreme test of who is to be voted for, as if the Bible makes the claim that abortion is the supreme sin. The killing of any human life is sin, no matter if even the "secular" government advocates it. And since the government can only make "civil" laws and not "moral" laws the test of who one advocates for office is extremely muddled at best. Where does the Bible state that abortion is worse than any other sin? Am I in favor of abortion? God forbid! Yet I think we need to go deeper than some kind of "talking point" statement regarding the "moral majority" and all that goes along with it. I hope we as Christians are spiritually deeper than the skim milk of political wire-working. Jake

The language in the commandment is very specific it does not mean just killit means to commit murder to lie in wait and plan to kill another. We are also told to follow civil laws you can not make a black and white issue out of killing. The thing that gets so emotional with Abortion is its the killing of innocence before a human has a chance to see what Gods plan was for that person was.

(kriss;22200)
The language in the commandment is very specific it does not mean just killit means to commit murder to lie in wait and plan to kill another. We are also told to follow civil laws you can not make a black and white issue out of killing. The thing that gets so emotional with Abortion is its the killing of innocence before a human has a chance to see what Gods plan was for that person was.
Abortion is evil, agreed, it is murder. We can be thankful God knows and loves all the unborn aborted babies. He will judge fairly. He loves all of humanity with an unfailing love, He is not a respecter of persons. Also, if the civil authorities pronounce a law that is in contradiction to God's law, who's law will we follow? For example, anyone going to war, the intent is to kill. The commandment is "Thou shalt not kill" Romans 13:9. This is not our home, we are strangers and pilgrims, to get involved with a secular governments biddings of bloodshed is to be "of the world." John 17:14. Christians in America may create this "central theme" thwarted towards the many sin sick woman who have grieved intensely over aborting their babies. Let's give these woman the good news of the gospel. We can obey the law outwardly in America, but that does not bring freedom, it can only come from God. The "civil" law of not murdering in this country frees no one, because it goes to the "inward intent." If that were the case, we would have to put me and you and everyone else in prison. I find it interesting that the abortion issue was first heavily taken on by the Catholic Church, picked up by the "moral majority." Interesting, wonder where this will all lead? Could it be a side attraction, way to lightly stated on my part, can't find the words, but something much greater unsuspecting evil will occur that will be hardly noticed till too late? I think so, according to scripture anyway. Even the devil takes on things that are "true and noble," for he comes as an angel of light. Am I saying this is one of those issues, not that I know, since I know very little. But there is something strangely infatuating concerning the whole issue. Jake

Bottom line: Pat Roberson would not be caught dead supporting a candidate like Ron Paul. That shows where he, and countless other false prophets, stand contrary to the founding father's principles (even though he professes otherwise). So, he goes for mainline whoever is most popular candidate, as long as its a male Republican.Most of Christianity is the same side-show as the world has to offer operating on the other side of the street. It's cookie-cutter mentality and I would not take such a person any more seriously than a circus clown.

Giuliani doesn’t want Trump to testify because Giuliani knows that Trump is a pathological liar and will incriminate himself.

This makes Giuliani a conspirator in my view