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To put this sentiment in metaphor, the show is a mirror.
Yes exactly. However the person sees things is what they will get out of the show. But also Gods spirit. I remember part of coming to God before being saved was secular music. I began to see and hear God in certain words and feel His presense with certain music.

God works in mysterious ways. He can use anything to speak to someone.

I mean going out and seeking demonic movies or music is different. But a lot of mainstream movies and music contain the big questions in life which everyone is trying to work out.

I think we all know God and are attempting to express that in different ways. I think there are many appeals to God in most creative art. But most don't realise it or are too afraid to say the truth. So they create substitutes. But they all speak about justice, who are we and something better in this world beyond what we see.

God can use all of that depending where the person is at.

In saying that I also understand the battle for minds and hearts and how overall media is a powerful tool today. More than ever. Its got to the point where fake looks real and reality and the truth is being turned into an illusion.

The simple message of the gospel is being lost in a sea of media communications and voices all claiming a truth.

Thats where I think this message needs to be simple and clear. But not necessarily in the arts but real life. In churches and on the street. With Christian ambassadors in positions of authority or influence declaring this simple truth in public. You rarely hear this nowadays.
 
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You should, because your country's democratic survival depends on it.
okay time for some correction my friend . OH NO HE should not .
NO way and no how . Thems corrupt and the corruption is deep on both sides of that realm .
ITS JESUS TIME my friend . Throw the polys and the moly out the door .
TRUST not in them on e ither side the aisle .
I did say i was non political all the way my friend . IT JESUS TIME . Now to the trenches one and all .
 

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This show is a mirror of the irreverence of The Chosen producers.
and in that mirror lies the problem . for it is the image of a man , NOT GOD .
That is their jesus my friend .
A creation of the minds of men that is meant to serve the ag enda of men , and men gone wrong i might add .
Implying the thumbs up , joking and sinning jesus who calls for the judge not correct not
UNLESS its biblical doctrine , THEN it corrects and attacks THEM WORDS . always picking and choosing
whatever parts they like and even that has been twisted it out text to fit what it is they love abov e all .
The god in their mi rror . aka self .
 

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and in that mirror lies the problem . for it is the image of a man , NOT GOD .
That is their jesus my friend .
A creation of the minds of men that is meant to serve the ag enda of men , and men gone wrong i might add .
Implying the thumbs up , joking and sinning jesus who calls for the judge not correct not
UNLESS its biblical doctrine , THEN it corrects and attacks THEM WORDS . always picking and choosing
whatever parts they like and even that has been twisted it out text to fit what it is they love abov e all .
The god in their mi rror . aka self .
People display their contempt for the Word of God when they say that a Jesus movie based strictly on scripture would be thin, boring, unrelatable.
 

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and in that mirror lies the problem . for it is the image of a man , NOT GOD .
That is their jesus my friend .
A creation of the minds of men that is meant to serve the ag enda of men , and men gone wrong i might add .
Implying the thumbs up , joking and sinning jesus who calls for the judge not correct not
UNLESS its biblical doctrine , THEN it corrects and attacks THEM WORDS . always picking and choosing
whatever parts they like and even that has been twisted it out text to fit what it is they love abov e all .
The god in their mi rror . aka self .
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People display their contempt for the Word of God when they say that a Jesus movie based strictly on scripture would be thin, boring, unrelatable.
You are a hate filled person. All you have is contempt for success of artistry whose aim is not strictly based on Scripture. IMO, that's been done to death. The Chosen is a fresh look at an old story that has brought many to Christ. Christians should rejoice. 1 Corinthians 9:22-23
22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
 
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People display their contempt for the Word of God when they say that a Jesus movie based strictly on scripture would be thin, boring, unrelatable.
They indeed surely do my friend .
They surely surely do indeed . Woe to the man or woman that indeed has contempt for the Word of GOD
and had rather sit under enterainment of another jesus .
Now allow me a testimony to show us what GOD does when HE sends grace unto a man and draws one to CHRIST .
I know a man who once lived a life in darkness . T hat man could and a few times did cliam to KNOW JESUS
and even witnessed to a few atheists and etc . That man loved his sin . He knew not GOD nor THE CHRIST he tho ught
and at times confessed to know .
One day in the year of our Lord 2006 on the thirtieth day of said month may
GOD unctioned that man from within . And real , true and pure desires for GOD and to seek HIM began .
He had began that day the old man lost in sin but by the mercies of GOD grace had been sent
TO Lead that man with WHOLE NEW GOD GIVEN DESIRES with a great love FOR GOD , FOR TRUTH upon his heart .
And right into the BIBLE that man went like a three day starved baby sheep to its own mamas teet .
He loved just reading and reading that bible for hours upon hours daily .
Now he began to have a yearning to have fellowship with others too . Those he THOUGHT knew the LORD .
Now as HE had been reading his bible he was always joy filled with much peace in what he read .
But when he would t urn on known so called christain channels like TBN and etc
WHEN he heard what they taught it always left him EMPTY . HE did not know WHY at the first .
BUT ALWAYS , ALWAYS he had peace and hope in them SCRIPTURES .
HE also had began to visit churches . Now the praise was always JOYOUS to HIM . HE loved
songs to the LORD . Oh what joy it brought his soul .
YET when the leaders would stand and begin their sermons ..........................EMPTY , not fullfilled . Again at the first
HE did not know the WHY . However , EVERY TIME within the reading of those scrips it was always FULLFILLING .
It would not take long for that sheep to begin to realize more and on a deeper level as to
WHY he had no taste for what he seen and heard on those channels and within those churches .
THEY WERE FALSE at best . THEY brought a mixture that always focused , for the most part , on what was
pleasing to the ear of man , BUT NOT TO GOD .
YOU SEE when GOD truly does call us , HE puts WHOLE NEW DESIRES INTO OUR HEARTS .
AND TO LOVE HIM , HIM above all , IS FIRST and then your neighbor as yourself .
And for every day since that day in may nearly twenty years ago now , that man has always feasted upon
said scriptures , with others too , who also have THE SAME LOVE FOR THE WORD of GOD u pon their hearts .
GOD has always d esired OBEDIANCE , and how the sheep do thank HIM for b eing saved
and having been given THE TRUE HOLY SPIRIT by which THEY CAN AND DO LOVE HIM abov e all .
But many are as that man once was , OH they can lip HIS NAME but their hearts be far far from him .
THEY can claim , to KNOW THE TRUTH to KNOW LOVE , TO KNOW GOD , CHRIST
but like that man THEY have only THE LOVE OF THE WORLD upon their hearts believing it to be teh LOVE OF GOD .
A DELUSION indeed my friend . JESUS DO HAVE THE SHEEP and HOW the SHEEP NEED HIM DAILY .
HIS voice they hear and not the voices of the hirelings who do naught but preach smooth things
unto this people and now more than ever lead them to merge as one
with ALL religoins , all under A LIE but believing it to be TRUTH , LOVE and OF GOD . ITS A DELUSION my friend .
 
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But don't stick your head in the sand.
Be AWARE what's going on around you.
Be aware about what you need to pray for.
now on THAT i do agree my friend . And by HIS GRACE , beleive you me , HE has surely made me aware
of the darkness that has engulfed EVEN much of christendom .
But this darkness claims itself as light
and its delusion cliams itself as love , loving and of GOD .
But its NOT OF GOD . For if these churches actually had THE LOVE OF GOD ,
OH I SAY , OH I SAY
if they had the love of GOD they have SPOKEN the WORDS OF THIS GOD unto their peoples
and peoples had REPENTED OF SAID SINS , and not rather JUSTFIED THEM .
THEY PROMISE THE WICKED LIFE and no man does repent himself of HIS evil .
And now its getting so bad that if a man dares to enter such chambers of what dares to call itself of chrsitendom
To speak the words of TRUTH , TO hold even a bible in his hand
HE IS ON T RIAL as though as hater and cast out as though a judg mental monster .
But reader and all beware .
FOR IF TRUTH is BROUGHT unto thee and unto thine house , thine church where you gather
and the very words of GOD are spoken from within the bible
and you dare put a man on trial as hater for using such words .............
IT IS NOT the man you really did put on trial , IT WAS TEH GOD WHO INSPIRED SUCH WORDS
that you put on trial and condmened as a hater . OH YES MY FRIEND
and no marvel that satans ministirs can indeed appear as men of righteousness .
FOR EVEN SATAN HIMSELF can and DO appear as even an angel of LIGHT , THOUGH HE BE DARKNESS .
 

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First, they are making up stories about real people who once lived on this Earth. In other words, they are writing fiction but presenting it as if it’s real history (and claiming they are presenting the “authentic” Jesus). In some cases, what they present constitutes defamation of character. For example, having Peter constantly call John the Baptist “creepy John.” To have such a bad attitude toward somebody who Jesus loved and respected makes Peter look bad (not to mention how it makes John the Baptist look). Technically, if Peter was alive today, the producers of the show could be sued for slander because of that.

Quite apart from the problem of slander, it is morally wrong to present made-up fiction as if it is true because that is lying. And lying is so serious that one of the Ten Commandments forbids it. Commandment Nine forbids people to “bear false witness.” In addition, Jesus told us that the devil is the father of lies (John 8:44).

Second, some Christians think they can watch The Chosen as entertainment and not have it impact their faith. Unfortunately, that is not true. When we see things with our own eyes and hear them with our own ears, those things have an impact on us. And when it comes to TV shows, there is even more involved because some technical aspects of television make viewers highly susceptible to influence and suggestion as some studies have even shown.

Years ago, I was in a grocery store that has an area where people can sit to eat. A man was sitting there, reading a newspaper. I told him it was nice to see somebody actually read a newspaper these days instead of just depending on the TV news. That man told me that he was a psychologist. He said that television flickers in a way that puts many people into a hypnotic state which makes them very suggestible. He said for that reason, he never watches TV. I’ve read that some people are more susceptible to that problem than others are. But even people who are less vulnerable still need to be very careful about what they watch on television.

Third, in Matthew 24:24, Jesus warned us that there would be “false Christs” who would deceive people. Normally these will be real live people. However, because the Jesus presented by The Chosen is so different from Jesus Christ as presented in the gospels, I believe their version of Jesus could qualify as being a “false Christ.” He is certainly deceiving many of the viewers by giving them ideas about Jesus that go against what the Bible says about Him.

 

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now on THAT i do agree my friend . And by HIS GRACE , beleive you me , HE has surely made me aware
of the darkness that has engulfed EVEN much of christendom .
But this darkness claims itself as light
and its delusion cliams itself as love , loving and of GOD .
But its NOT OF GOD . For if these churches actually had THE LOVE OF GOD ,
OH I SAY , OH I SAY
if they had the love of GOD they have SPOKEN the WORDS OF THIS GOD unto their peoples
and peoples had REPENTED OF SAID SINS , and not rather JUSTFIED THEM .
THEY PROMISE THE WICKED LIFE and no man does repent himself of HIS evil .
And now its getting so bad that if a man dares to enter such chambers of what dares to call itself of chrsitendom
To speak the words of TRUTH , TO hold even a bible in his hand
HE IS ON T RIAL as though as hater and cast out as though a judg mental monster .
But reader and all beware .
FOR IF TRUTH is BROUGHT unto thee and unto thine house , thine church where you gather
and the very words of GOD are spoken from within the bible
and you dare put a man on trial as hater for using such words .............
IT IS NOT the man you really did put on trial , IT WAS TEH GOD WHO INSPIRED SUCH WORDS
that you put on trial and condmened as a hater . OH YES MY FRIEND
and no marvel that satans ministirs can indeed appear as men of righteousness .
FOR EVEN SATAN HIMSELF can and DO appear as even an angel of LIGHT , THOUGH HE BE DARKNESS .
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I don't own a TV, but I have watched every episode of the Chosen on my phone or tablet.

Whatever the intentions of the producers of this drama may have been (I lean towards Jewish propaganda), the fact that God uses this drama to reach people is undeniable.

I've known Christ for several decades, so I'm not likely to be influenced by the liberties they have taken with scripture or the narratives they inserted.

The average viewer of the Chosen however, does not have a systematic biblical theology, most are not even biblically literate, if they have ever read the bible at all.

And God dearly loves these people. I find it consistent with His character that He would use such a show to reach the lost, regardless of whatever errors it may represent, or the motives of its creators.
 

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I don't own a TV, but I have watched every episode of the Chosen on my phone or tablet.

Whatever the intentions of the producers of this drama may have been (I lean towards Jewish propaganda), the fact that God uses this drama to reach people is undeniable.

I've known Christ for several decades, so I'm not likely to be influenced by the liberties they have taken with scripture or the narratives they inserted.

The average viewer of the Chosen however, does not have a systematic biblical theology, most are not even biblically literate, if they have ever read the bible at all.

And God dearly loves these people. I find it consistent with His character that He would use such a show to reach the lost, regardless of whatever errors it may represent, or the motives of its creators.
Reaching the lost with irreverent portrayals of Christ, sacrilegious fiction fantasies, and falsified renditions of the gospel?

The Chosen may induce some people to read the Bible, but erroneous scenes and blasphemies will remain in their minds, in vivid opposition to the gospels and the true characteristics of Jesus.
 

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I tried to watch The Chosen.

I wasn't comfortable with the extra Biblical license.

It was strange to imagine a screenplay that has Matthew portrayed as journaling pretty much all that transpired.

Other things too and that aren't in the New Testament made me uncomfortable.

One thing I did see is,the man who plays Jesus is now taking to social media to preach a bit.

The same with Jim Caviezel.
 
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I don't own a TV, but I have watched every episode of the Chosen on my phone or tablet.

Whatever the intentions of the producers of this drama may have been (I lean towards Jewish propaganda), the fact that God uses this drama to reach people is undeniable.

I've known Christ for several decades, so I'm not likely to be influenced by the liberties they have taken with scripture or the narratives they inserted.

The average viewer of the Chosen however, does not have a systematic biblical theology, most are not even biblically literate, if they have ever read the bible at all.

And God dearly loves these people. I find it consistent with His character that He would use such a show to reach the lost, regardless of whatever errors it may represent, or the motives of its creators.
How would The Chosen qualify as Jewish propaganda?
When the screenplay involves interfaith collabs and also resources from the Church of Latter Day Saints?
 

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I don't own a TV, but I have watched every episode of the Chosen on my phone or tablet.

Whatever the intentions of the producers of this drama may have been (I lean towards Jewish propaganda), the fact that God uses this drama to reach people is undeniable.

I've known Christ for several decades, so I'm not likely to be influenced by the liberties they have taken with scripture or the narratives they inserted.

The average viewer of the Chosen however, does not have a systematic biblical theology, most are not even biblically literate, if they have ever read the bible at all.

And God dearly loves these people. I find it consistent with His character that He would use such a show to reach the lost, regardless of whatever errors it may represent, or the motives of its creators.
If you've been a Christian for decades. you should know the defaming Christ and degrading His character is not bring anyone to Christ. I've watched every episode myself to know what I'm talking about. All 4 gospels say Jesus healed every one who came to Him. Jesus did not pick and chose like the Chosen series depicts. Jesus did not need Matthew to write speeches for Him and the Apostles were not His body guards and road crew. Studies by Angel studio's say millions came to Christ world wide, but I found no statistics. I did find the show preaching to the choir, which comprised of 30% that watched for entertainment only. Catholic church's promoted the Chosen to bring more Catholic's back, and it worked. So world wide, the show brought Catholics back. Jenkins is not an evangelist, and I have doubts he is a Christian. Many Christians have produced movies and shows about Jesus over the years with no compromise in Jesus's character in the story, because they fear God. Jenkins does not fear God and how he depicted the lesser than God Jesus.
 
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If you've been a Christian for decades. you should know the defaming Christ and degrading His character is not bring anyone to Christ. I've watched every episode myself to know what I'm talking about. All 4 gospels say Jesus healed every one who came to Him. Jesus did not pick and chose like the Chosen series depicts. Jesus did not need Matthew to write speeches for Him and the Apostles were not His body guards and road crew. Studies by Angel studio's say millions came to Christ world wide, but I found no statistics. I did find the show preaching to the choir, which comprised of 30% that watched for entertainment only. Catholic church's promoted the Chosen to bring more Catholic's back, and it worked. So world wide, the show brought Catholics back. Jenkins is not an evangelist, and I have doubts he is a Christian. Many Christians have produced movies and shows about Jesus over the years with no compromise in Jesus's character in the story, because they fear God. Jenkins does not fear God and how he depicted the lesser than God Jesus.
15Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

I could provide a list as long as my arm of what I consider to be false teachers. And at the same time St Peter could provide you with a list as long as a freight train of those who have been brought to faith in Christ through their "ministries".

I like to think of myself as a student of Gods Word, and yet seldom has my understanding or eloquent expression of that Holy Word ever contributed in any meaningful way to the expansion of His Kingdom, at least to my knowledge.

On the other hand. The love that Christ has placed within me for others, and the genuine heartfelt obedient expression of His love to others, has been most productive.

Its not that I disagree with your principals. I just have a different perspective and approach.
 
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