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When you are retelling the Gospels? Have at it. Rather, I do not bid you Godspeed. Not at all.
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So a fictional story, a parable for instance, makes one a liar In your estimation. I never equated the two.
If you want to put false words into my mouth, then yes. But know this, you are putting false words into my mouth. Gee . . . who does that remind me of? It seems just like, just like, wait for it . . . Dallas Jenkins, also known for putting false words into people's mouths, right up to and including Jesus.
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How is it false? You and the ot her poster are the ones that are falsely claiming fiction makes the content a lie.
PS95
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Do you read your own posts? lol Wrangler- you know that I have tried a few times to help you to see that Jesus telling lies is an error. This goes way back now. But you didn't want to hear it and stuck to your guns with that lie. I only spoke the truth to you.
So what do I do with that? I avoid you since only a false teacher would accuse Jesus of lying.
That certainly isn't the first false teaching you've brought here.
You seem to have a weird religion all of your own-
part JW- part Universalist- Part Unitarian- part your own- So what do I do with that? I take the counsel of scripture-
Titus 3:10-11
Reject a divisive man after a first and second admonition, / knowing that such a man is corrupt and sinful; he is self-condemned.
Romans 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them that are causing the divisions and occasions of stumbling, contrary to the doctrine which ye learned: and turn away from them.
1 Timothy 6:3-5
If anyone teaches another doctrine and disagrees with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and with godly teaching, / he is conceited and understands nothing. Instead, he has an unhealthy interest in controversies and disputes about words, out of which come envy, strife, abusive talk, evil suspicions, / and constant friction between men of depraved mind who are devoid of the truth.
That may seem harsh- but I don't hate you. I've tried to help you. I do hate what you teach and think you need to stop and humble yourself before the Lord.
2 timothy 2
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
Yes, the Scriptures are all we need for salvation.
I do not like any movies or documentaries that do not portray the Bible text accurately.
However, I enjoy watching videos that re-create Bible times - I saw one recently that portrayed the village of Nazareth. It actually helps to understand the Gospel stories more ... eg, how they could let the paralyzed man down through the roof, what the inside of a synagogue looked like, what the journey for Mary from Nazareth to Bethlehem was like, etc
If a person loves the Bible stories, they are interested in all the details. One can read the Bible and imagine them as you read, but obviously pictorial images help our imagination ... that's why children's Bibles have illustrations.
Taken
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Agree… Bible “stories” for beginners, with illustrations regarding Jesus the MAN,
And delving into history, of the landscape and political systems of nobility / governance down to the governed, reveals interesting details about the historical people at large.
Also believe, WISDOM, of the matur-ING and matur-ED, is obtain-ED…
WHEN, an illustration, photo, gesture, symbol, trinket, etc. is no longer used, required, necessary, for one to have a True one on one Relationship with THE invisible Lord God Almighty.
Glory to God,
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No humility that it is you who are in error. All you've done is dismissed and ignored the evidence that goes against your premise.
I already answered that.
As do I. Was the girl dead or sleeping?
What you write seems harsh because it is (unnecessarily hostile, as I put it).
Projecting. In your "humility," you are telling me what I need? Let me tell you what you need. You need to abandon the IDOL you've made of the Lord and come to him in true humility. How does that shoe fit?
It sounds like you know everything there is to know about life in the 4,000+ years covered in the Bible ... I am 80 and still learning.
A personal relationship is based on love ... and love means you are interested in everything about the other one.
amigo de christo
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IF anyone here thinks JESUS and later the apostels went around SIMPLY TRYING TO MAKE MEN FEEL GOOD and ACCEPTED .
then they have done fell for a lie .
JESUS never went about trying to find common ground . AND HIS MINSTIRY
darn sure was not HEY lets just make them FEEL GOOD , FEEL WELCOME , FEEL accepted .
HIS mission was THE TRUTH . and you can bet he often OFFENDED .
EVEN when what HE said caused them to be offended , HE DID NOT THEN t ry and change it
to make them FEEL OKAY , FEEL GOOD , OR FEEL ACCEPTED .
LORD , LORD , dont you know this saying OFFENDED THEM .
LEAVE THEM BE . THEY are the blind leading the blind , and every plant that MY FATHER has not planted
SHALL be rooted up .
NOW everything JESUS DID was FOR THEIR GOOD . no doubt about that . HE often f ed , he healed
HE did good . AND HIS GOOD ALSO Included many WORDS of truth , much correction .
Many warnings too .
As did the apostels .
IF the jesus one embraces goes about trying to make everyone feel accepted
ITS THE WRONG JESUS . IF the JESUS one follows AGREES with ALL THE WORDS JESUS TAUGHT
and ALL T HINGS HE DID , THEN IT IS JESUS YOU FOLLOW . let us learn our bible well . That is a huge help .
For if i were to seek to please man I would not be the servant of CHRIST .
its not about seeking to PLEASE man but rather GOD who tries our hearts .
IF a man is all about seeking GOD then HIS WORDS and actions HAD been what is best for the people.
BUT when men go about seeking to please men , seeking to MAKE them feel accepted
WELL just look at what happend to the SEEKER FRIENDLY and them churches . DOWN HILL they all went .
FOR when man seeks to please man , YOU cAN BET TRUTH that offends WILL BE OMITTED
and rather messages that please man WILL increase .
amigo de christo
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Seek ye rather to feed them words of truth IN SCRIPTURE .
But as you have heard and i have heard of them , some say IF we were to create a show
based strictly on the scriptures , WHY THEY WOULD BE BORED .
amigo de christo
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The LOVE OF GOD is based upon PUTTING HIM FIRST HIS CHRIST FIRST BEFORE ALL . which means
one would have LOVED HIS WORDS , the LOVELY TRUTH in Scripture .
Just a word of caution ,
but if anyone is following a jesus whose aim is all about pleasing man , YOU are following the wrong one .
As far as loving your neighbor
LETS LOOK at what GOD has to say about that . What DID JESUS say , HE who hates his brother is in darkness .
What was said
YE shall NOT hate , notice that says HATE and YE SHALL NOT HATE .
YE shall not hate your neighbor . I bet you agree with that .
SO LETS finish it .
YE shall not hate your neighbor in your heart , you shall IN ANY WAY CORRECT HIM and NOT ALLOW sin upon him .
SO if anyone is following a jesus who uses the judge not correct not
AGAIN you are following the wrong jesus . JESUS did correct , JESUS did , and so did the apostels .
IF sin and error , if doctrines contrary to the biblical doctrine of Christ
is being done or taught , THEN IT MUST be corrected . IF we love our neighbor . NOW if you hate them
THEN continue to allow them to remain in sin or unbelief . b ut do remember
HE who hates his brother BE IN DARKNESS and knows not where he walks .
PS95
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MY PREMISE? That Jesus wasn't a liar? Who is your Savior?
I have answered this. you ignored it. I have nothing more to say to you.
It's not hostility- it's obedience to the scriptures which are good counsel. I see no reason to give you a platform to further spread your nonsense. There could be new believers or seekers reading who do not need to read these shortsighted loud mouthed opinions that call the Lord a liar.- You don't represent truth here.
I have made an idol of the Lord because I say He never sinned--? Do you hear yourself? And you think I shouldn't avoid you..?
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