A new Catholic perspective

Hello. Why do Catholic people pray to Mary?

Why does the Pope call himself "Holy Father"?

Why does the Catholic church discourage people to bring in their bible? (I've been to one)II John 1:9-11 - Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.Jag

(thesuperjag;22048)
Why does the Catholic church discourage people to bring in their bible? (I've been to one)II John 1:9-11 - Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.Jag
I grew up in the Catholic Church; FIRST, let's welcome him! A question: Are you saying there are not sincere believers in the Catholic church who are possibly living up to the light they have? Let's speak with him before we say, "receive him not into your house." He may be receptive, with God all things are possible. ...I don't understand this reasoning. Do we go up to a non-believer and say, "You don't have the doctrine of Christ, therefore, leave now! God have mercy on our souls. He may not give up certain beliefs, but let's see what happens first before "kicking him to the curb." Am I missing something here regarding how we "first" approach people. ... We knew the intention of "tongueman," knowing he believed no one is saved unless they speak in gibberish, that's more of an issue of judging someone's salvation. I have not seen this yet with this new subscriber. What am I missing here? Jake

(preciousmessage;22054)
(thesuperjag;22048)
Why does the Catholic church discourage people to bring in their bible? (I've been to one)II John 1:9-11 - Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.Jag
I grew up in the Catholic Church; FIRST, let's welcome him! A question: Are you saying there are not sincere believers in the Catholic church who are possibly living up to the light they have? Let's speak with him before we say, "receive him not into your house." He may be receptive, with God all things are possible. ...I don't understand this reasoning. Do we go up to a non-believer and say, "You don't have the doctrine of Christ, therefore, leave now! God have mercy on our souls. He may not give up certain beliefs, but let's see what happens first before "kicking him to the curb." Am I missing something here regarding how we "first" approach people. ... We knew the intention of "tongueman," knowing he believed no one is saved unless they speak in gibberish, that's more of an issue of judging someone's salvation. I have not seen this yet with this new subscriber. What am I missing here? JakeHello Jake, I didn't mean it that way. We are supposed to share the gospel to Christ to unbelievers, as Christ wants every single soul saved. Yes, I've been to a Catholic church once. I ask if I should bring in my bible, (which Christ's Words are in the bible) They said no. Yes there were 3 or 4 scriptures used, but still discouraged people to bring their bible.So the question is, If we can't bring in our bible, how can we discern what is good and evil? I realized that denominations is never right at all, for Christ knows what is being taught in the church. Discernment is extremely important to keep us out of false doctrines. He said it in numerous places. "Be not deceived..." God told me to get out.So it is better for me to get taught by the Spirit of God rather than men. We are to love everyone (human) in this world, but not Satan and his evil ways,for he is suprenatural.Jag

(thesuperjag;22056)
Hello Jake, I didn't mean it that way. We are supposed to share the gospel to Christ to unbelievers, as Christ wants every single soul saved. Yes, I've been to a Catholic church once. I ask if I should bring in my bible, (which Christ's Words are in the bible) They said no. Yes there were 3 or 4 scriptures used, but still discouraged people to bring their bible.So the question is, If we can't bring in our bible, how can we discern what is good and evil? I realized that denominations is never right at all, for Christ knows what is being taught in the church. Discernment is extremely important to keep us out of false doctrines. He said it in numerous places. "Be not deceived..." God told me to get out.So it is better for me to get taught by the Spirit of God rather than men. We are to love everyone (human) in this world, but not Satan and his evil ways,for he is suprenatural.Jag
Amen, I understand your point pertaining to the Bible. Yet Satan is very subtle, usually in terms of individual attacks. There are many in Protestantism who go to church like clock work who never open or bring the Bible who we are more tolerant with, because afterall, they are our "kind." I'm guilty! May God give us spiritual enlightenment. Hey Jag, thanks for your contrite and humble response, may I have the same dear brother. Don't hold back on me either, let's keep each other in check, if we disagree, may we study till we come together in the unity of faith.Jake

The Bible is poetry, Mary to me is poetry but I don't pray to Mary.

I think Catholics are some of the most decated believers. The problem with this is they are taught to be dicated to a religion and its traditions before the Word of God. there would be nothing wrong with this if the religion were not perverted by men.Example: Where in Gods word does it ever say to confess to a man and he can tell you what you should do to be forgiven?? This is putting a man before God and is a sin.And though some may just honor Mary Most worship her along with other Saints.God says you shall have no other Gods before me. How many times do we hear a catholic say Ill pray to Mary This is A SIN call it what you want but if you are praying to anyone other than God and asking for forgiveness and redemption from anyone but the God in the name of Christ you are following men.

I have encountered someone who says that Christ founded the Catholic Church, so that is the only church.

(preciousmessage;22065)
(thesuperjag;22056)
Hello Jake, I didn't mean it that way. We are supposed to share the gospel to Christ to unbelievers, as Christ wants every single soul saved. Yes, I've been to a Catholic church once. I ask if I should bring in my bible, (which Christ's Words are in the bible) They said no. Yes there were 3 or 4 scriptures used, but still discouraged people to bring their bible.So the question is, If we can't bring in our bible, how can we discern what is good and evil? I realized that denominations is never right at all, for Christ knows what is being taught in the church. Discernment is extremely important to keep us out of false doctrines. He said it in numerous places. "Be not deceived..." God told me to get out.So it is better for me to get taught by the Spirit of God rather than men. We are to love everyone (human) in this world, but not Satan and his evil ways,for he is suprenatural.Jag
Amen, I understand your point pertaining to the Bible. Yet Satan is very subtle, usually in terms of individual attacks. There are many in Protestantism who go to church like clock work who never open or bring the Bible who we are more tolerant with, because afterall, they are our "kind." I'm guilty! May God give us spiritual enlightenment.Hey Jag, thanks for your contrite and humble response, may I have the same dear brother. Don't hold back on me either, let's keep each other in check, if we disagree, may we study till we come together in the unity of faith.JakeThou art very welcome dear brother Jake. I shall not hold back on anyone, neither should anyone hold back. To hold back is like "Let's give in to the Devil" And *Smiles Big*We should study. Jag

(AtHisfeet;22070)
I have encountered someone who says that Christ founded the Catholic Church, so that is the only church.
Wrong every church says they are the one The word of God has no denomination Christ founded a way of life to be a chistian means belive in Christ and that he died for your sins not Catholic or any other denomination

(goldy;22052)
Are you referring to the gospel verse where Jesus says "Call no man father" to dispute this? Just let me know......thanks
Yes. And what power does the Pope have in forgiving other peoples sins, changing laws, and being above others when it comes to righteousness.We are all the same humans and we have all committed a sin. Even the Pope.I don't value the Papacy at all, nor his laws.

(Kriss;22075)
(AtHisfeet;22070)
I have encountered someone who says that Christ founded the Catholic Church, so that is the only church.
Wrong every church says they are the oneThe word of God has no denomination Christ founded a way of life to be a chistian means belive in Christ and that he died for your sins not Catholic or any other denominationI agree with you 100%. That's why I said that God has no denominations as the Truth needs no denominations.(Wakka;22077)
(goldy;22052)
Are you referring to the gospel verse where Jesus says "Call no man father" to dispute this? Just let me know......thanks
Yes. And what power does the Pope have in forgiving other peoples sins, changing laws, and being above others when it comes to righteousness.We are all the same humans and we have all committed a sin. Even the Pope.I don't value the Papacy at all, nor his laws.I agree with you Wakka 100%.Matthew 23:9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.I John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.Jag

(goldy;22085)
Neither do I, but you bet your rear-end I honor that woman. She is pretty significant, you know.......
All she was was just a mother. She's hardly mentioned in the Bible. There's not much to value.