The giants of Genesis 6 and how they will be presented to the populace

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Arnie Manitoba said:
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An Extra Terrestrial being has already come to planet Earth ... and artificially inseminated and impregnated a human woman .... and the resulting offspring claimed to be The Son of God

And billions of people still believe that to this day.

If Jesus came in such a manner , maybe Satan will produce his counterfeit anti-Christ in such a manner. Who knows.

Because no one knows when the end times will come , Chuck Missler even went so far as to speculate that ever since the time of Christ , Satan may have always had some of his own human offspring "at the ready"

All that would be required is for Satan to spiritually indwell that person ..... something along the lines of The Holy Spirit coming down to Jesus.

Lots of possibilities
This entire reply can be summed as a rationalization belonging to what is called the Bible naturalist camp. This is the type of rubbish I'm taking about. The way this individual describes the birth of Jesus is identical to the way an ancient astronaut Darwinist would explain it. Its a materialistic explanation for an obvious clear cut supernatural event. The more I look at the world, the more I see this blasphemous reinterpretation is the foundation for literally all of Satan's lies running amok, because it is the only way he'll deceive the world with its various pantheistic/materialist belief systems.

Neither God the father nor Jesus are extraterrestrials, as they are celestial in origin, meaning beyond nature. The term extraterrestrial however, means that they are indigenous to our natural plain of existence, which they are clearly not. This is the point made crystal clear throughout scripture, that God is separate from his creation. This is why he commands us not to make any graven images of him as he cannot be compared to anything we can conceive of or imagine in our pretty little heads in our realm of existence, E.T or otherwise, it insults him. The birth of Jesus was not done through "artificial insemination". Artificial insemination is an act by a human to inject sperm into a woman's vagina. It is a violation of a woman's body that requires the seed of a man. The birth of Jesus required no such intervention and there is no legitimate excuse to rationalize the event within the understanding of our created little world, a limited understanding of it at that.

As far as Satan producing the anti-Christ in similar fashion. There is nothing in Bible prophecy that even implies this to be the case, nor is there any reason to assume that Satan is even capable of doing it in the first place. We know who the Antichrist is and where he really comes from. He is an angel called Apollyon the destroyer, the "beast" that ascends out of the bottomless pit who leads what is obviously an army of infernal cherubim referred to as "locusts". These are the same angels referred to by Jude that are currently locked up in the pit, obviously for the crime of Genesis 6.

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And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. - Jude 1:6
 

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it is you who brought the ancient astronaut Darwinist stuff here so please dont hang that one on me

and for your information God is extraterrestrial
 

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Arnie Manitoba said:
blackman

it is you who brought the ancient astronaut Darwinist stuff here so please dont hang that one on me

and for your information God is extraterrestrial
Its amazing to me how easily you can deceive an entire population just by the use of words. The term terrestrial means any physical object in space that is similar to earth in density, such as planets like Mars. So when you claim that God is extraterrestrial, you are in essence claiming that God is an alien from another planet when the Bible states no such thing, as it clearly states that he is separate from creation, meaning he is celestial in origin, not of our plain of existence. In the beginning, there was no universe, no planets, or stars or anything of the kind, nor was there "nothing" like the blasphemous Noah movie stated. In the beginning there was God, and he created the heavens and the earth, which means he exists outside of our sphere of time and space. God is far more than a mere E.T, and claiming otherwise is making a graven image of him.
 

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Its amazing to me how easily you can deceive an entire population just by the use of words. The term terrestrial means any physical object in space that is similar to earth in density, such as planets like Mars. So when you claim that God is extraterrestrial, you are in essence claiming that God is an alien from another planet when the Bible states no such thing, as it clearly states that he is separate from creation, meaning he is celestial in origin, not of our plain of existence. In the beginning, there was no universe, no planets, or stars or anything of the kind, nor was there "nothing" like the blasphemous Noah movie stated. In the beginning there was God, and he created the heavens and the earth, which means he exists outside of our sphere of time and space. God is far more than a mere E.T, and claiming otherwise is making a graven image of him.
Extraterrestrial refers to any object or being beyond the planet Earth ... such as God

Terrestrials are inhabitants of planet earth

I never once said God is an alien ... so get your facts straight

You do not have a clue what a graven image is.

Talk about misusing words !!!!!
 

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Arnie Manitoba said:
Extraterrestrial refers to any object or being beyond the planet Earth ... such as God

Terrestrials are inhabitants of planet earth

I never once said God is an alien ... so get your facts straight

You do not have a clue what a graven image is.

Talk about misusing words !!!!!
In astrobiology, the term terrestrial is used to refer to a body of planets existing in space, not just earth.

Terrestrial: belonging to the class of planets that are like the earth (as in density and silicate composition) <the terrestrial planets Mercury, Venus, and Mars>

Celestial: pertaining to the spiritual or invisible heaven; heavenly; divine.

Like I said, add the word "extra" to "terrestrial" and you are claiming God to be an E.T, simple as that. God has nothing at all in common with the former definition, claiming otherwise is making a graven image of him.
 

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BlackManINC said:
In astrobiology, the term terrestrial is used to refer to a body of planets existing in space, not just earth.

Terrestrial: belonging to the class of planets that are like the earth (as in density and silicate composition) <the terrestrial planets Mercury, Venus, and Mars>

Celestial: pertaining to the spiritual or invisible heaven; heavenly; divine.

Like I said, add the word "extra" to "terrestrial" and you are claiming God to be an E.T, simple as that. God has nothing at all in common with the former definition, claiming otherwise is making a graven image of him.
You have been watching too many movies

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extraterrestrial ....
adjective ... outside, or originating outside, the limits of the earth.

science fiction version

extraterrestrial
noun .... an extraterrestrial being: a science fiction novel about extraterrestrials conquering the earth.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/extraterrestrial
 

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Arnie Manitoba said:
You have been watching too many movies

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extraterrestrial ....
adjective ... outside, or originating outside, the limits of the earth.

science fiction version

extraterrestrial
noun .... an extraterrestrial being: a science fiction novel about extraterrestrials conquering the earth.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/extraterrestrial

The most accurate definition you can give for Gods plain of existence is extra-dimensional, which has the same meaning as the word celestial referring to that which exists outside of time and space as the real God of the Bible is described. Scientifically, terrestrial is a term referring to anything within our realm of time and space, not just earth. This is why other planets are also referred to as terrestrial bodies, and God has nothing in common with it.
 

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In a recently declassified document, the FBI tells us that the Giants of genesis 6 are aliens, how predictable.

The Giants according to the FBI:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TXfj3CqtRao
 

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There is some intelligent and discerning dialogue taking place in this thread!

I explain the motive for the concealment of the skeletal remains of the giants of Genesis 6 and their possible unveiling at a later date in relation to a much anticipated deception concerning disclosure of extraterrestrial life.
Because the enemy’s minions have laid so much predictive programming on us from Day One concerning the ET/alien pretext, we should not be asleep on this one.


...while I can imagine in my head that God could have created life on other planets, there is absolutely no reason for any christian to believe it as the bible doesn’t state it. Those Christians who imagine that there is life on other planets just because they believe it should exist should keep in mind the following video and scriptures about casting down all vain imaginations so they can see the errors of there ways, especially those Christians who have compromised their faith by accepting this pagan trash called evolution.
Yep.


Its amazing to me how easily you can deceive an entire population just by the use of words.
That merits its own separate thread.


To treat the subject seriously, three main questions need to be addressed.
1) Who were they?
2) How and why were they produced?
3) Are they still on earth?
It seems there is a general agreement with the answers to questions 1 and 2.

I’ll share with you what the Lord has shown me about the answer to question 3. You can chew the meat and spit out the bones.

When I came to the Lord in 1996, the Lord showed me his heart, and then all hell broke loose in my life. The Lord grieves when even one man or woman rejects him. I asked the Lord why the path to destruction is broad, i.e. why will the majority be eternally lost? And he began to show me the deceptions of Satan, and he continues to show me, to this day.

You might think this is a farce, but the present ruling global elite, the multigenerational bloodlined global elite satanic families are dead serious. They actually believe that they (being satanically empowered) can kick God’s buttocks at Armageddon. To do that, they need to come up with lots of “soulless bodies” for the enemy’s disembodied spirits to “inhabit.” In other words, it’s a numbers game for the enemy.

Cloning of people has been ongoing for several decades. Also, there has been much “splicing and dicing” going on in the mixing of man and animal genetics (and they would have us believe they’ve just begun the cloning of sheep !). I see shades of those fantastic creatures as found in the book of Revelation! There is much more that could be said about that, but we’ll leave it there for now.

At 4:30 am on October 5, 2005, the Lord showed me that the Nephilim are already here. And they have always been here. And they won’t reveal themselves until they have their boot thoroughly planted on our neck, which won’t be much longer in coming. At 8:00 pm, July 28, 2013, the Lord confirmed the original Nephilim revelation (an eight-year passage of time). For the most part (i.e. aside from the ongoing experimentation), the Nephilim are not in physical hiding -- they are in genetic hiding i.e. they are “within” their human hosts -- the bloodlined families. They are cannibalistic and often have extra digits and a second row of teeth and are capable of shape-shifting.

When they "shape-shift," these angelic beings can appear like perfectly normal humans (Heb 13:2). We know from the Old Testament that they not only appear human, but that they can eat food as well (Genesis 18:6-8; 19:3. In fact, angels eat when in their "normal" state. Psalm 78:24-25 tells us that manna is the "food of angels").. There is no reason to assume that angels do not contain all the physical properties of a normal human being, when assuming human form. However, they are not human, which goes a long way towards understanding why their children were "superhuman" (known as the heroes of old, men of renown, legends, Titans, Giants...).

What about those who would think that the Nephilim had been completely wiped out?

While several other Hebrew words translated as "giant" are used in the Bible, the only other place the actual word Nephilim is used outside of the Genesis 6 passage is in Numbers 13:33:

And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

This passage becomes very important in understanding Satan's plans for attacking mankind in the near future as this passage takes place long after Noah's flood which God sent to wipe out the offspring of the angel/human being interbreeding. That the Nephilim would be present in Canaan at this point in history can mean only one thing: the interbreeding between angels and mankind can and has happened not just once and not just in the distant past before the Great Flood. It wasn't so widespread and didn't threaten the entire human race, but it happened again long after the flood and has happened many other times as well.

A careful reading of the first introduction of this word in Genesis also shows that the Nephilim have appeared more than one time in history. The verses don't say that the first account was the only time this occurred. Rather,

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men... (Genesis 6:4 KJV)

It is important to notice that there were giants "in those days" and "also after that " time as well. Since the giants could only be coming from the sons of God interbreeding with the daughters of men, and since God wiped out the first instance of this with the Great Flood, this would have to mean that such couplings have occurred more than just once before the flood.

The passage about the giants in Numbers also explains why the word Nephilim is often translated into "giants" in English. The Jewish spies who reported the land was filled with Nephilim take the time to describe the creatures' size in relationship to human beings. The spies tell those who listen that the Jews were like grasshoppers both in the sight of the giants as well as in the sight of the spies.

If one stops to consider the relationship presented here, even given possible exaggeration of the differences in the mind of the spies, it is only logical to assume that the "sons of Anak" were huge, dwarfing the human beings who saw them. This passage also suggests that their strength might have been as great as that of a man compared to that of an insect. Little wonder, then, that the majority of the Jewish spies suggested that the Promised Land wasn't worth fighting for.

Unfortunately, the nay-sayers had the final say. The Jews didn't invade the Promised Land and instead wandered in the wilderness for another 40 years. But when their descendants finally entered what would become Israel, God exacted a judgment on the inhabitants of the land.

Just as God destroyed the Earth with a flood to wipe the Nephilim from the face of the Earth during Noah's time, so he used the flood of invading Jews flowing into the Promised Land to wipe out the giants they encountered. Realizing that some of the cities in the Promised Land were filled with Nephilim explains why God ordered some of the cities totally destroyed with the citizens in them to be put under the edge of the sword. God didn't want any of these monsters to once again pollute the human gene pool. God dealt out the same total destruction to these beings as he had with Noah's flood.

Sadly, most Christians and Jews are unaware of the biblical accounts that giants were found far and wide in the Promised Land. Most artwork, movies and the like further the ignorance by portraying everyone but Goliath as being normal size.

This misses the mark. Careful reading of the Bible reveals that in many areas the Nephilim held control of the cities. One hint at their widespread control is found in Deuteronomy which outlines the areas the invading Jews had conquered following their invasion of the land; this section of the Bible tells to which tribes the land was given. In one small excerpt from this, we can see that the Nephilim originally controlled much of the area:

"And we took at that time out of the hand of the two kings of the Amorites the land that [was] on this side Jordan, from the river of Arnon unto mount Hermon; (Which Hermon the Sidonians call Sirion; and the Amorites call it Shenir;) All the cities of the plain, and all Gilead, and all Bashan, unto Salchah and Edrei, cities of the kingdom of Og in Bashan.

For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

And this land, which we possessed at that time, from Aroer, which is by the river Arnon, and half mount Gilead, and the cities thereof, gave I unto the Reubenites and to the Gadites. And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants." (Deuteronomy 3:8-13 KJV)

This passage proves that the giants were controlling the land when the Hebrews arrived. It was only through their courage in slaughtering these monsters that God was able to bring the reign of the Nephilim to an end in this region. (It should also be noted that the iron bed described in this passage could accommodate an individual over twelve feet tall.)

Today there is archeological evidence to back up the biblical stories of Nephilim in the Promised Land. Writer Gary Stearman had this to say about ruins in the region that the Canaanites occupied during ancient times:

"Today, tourists marvel at the ruins in this region. They are of truly gigantic proportion. As we have written earlier, "Here, and northward into Syria and Lebanon, there are the remains of ancient buildings and temples that stagger the imagination. For example, the ruins of Baalbek in Lebanon's Beqa' a Valley are so massive that some have suggested they could not be duplicated, even using modern building techniques.

On the Acropolis of Baalbek, stood a temple dedicated to the storm god Hadad. It was 60 feet wide and 290 feet long, surrounded by 19 columns, each 62 feet high and over seven feet in diameter. But its flooring stones - still intact - are each larger than a modern railroad boxcar. No one can imagine how they were moved into place." (Stearman, "The Cloning of a Man: Rebirth of an Ancient Idea," Prophecy In The News , April 1997.)

How an ancient people might have built such structures is a mystery. Unless, of course, the ruins were made by a people much larger than regular human beings.

Moses also gives us another alarming clue to the nature of the habits of the sons of Anak. The spies told Moses:

And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. (Numbers 13:32 KJV)

The word translated into English as "eateth" is akal , meaning "to consume or eat." While the spies may have been speaking figuratively here (the word can be employed that way), this word often is used to mean the literal consumption of meat. And as we'll see, this may be pointing to what the spies saw as a danger presented by the sons of Anak: That the giants were also cannibalistic and would literally eat the inhabitants of the land should they choose to do so.

This view of giants has also been reflected in myths of many cultures, from those of the Greek Cyclops which were giants and ate human flesh, to the Old English tale of Jack and the Beanstalk in which the giant boasts "be him 'live or be him dead, I'll grind his bones to make my bread." While obviously these myths can't be viewed as actual, the fact that many diverse cultures have such myths suggests they have been handed down from those who had dealt with flesh-eating giants in the distant past.

The Nephilim are described as the "sons of Anak" followed by a detailed list of the city-states that were in the area. The details Moses laid out in this passage gives us other important clues that enable the piecing together of who the giants were and thereby expose Satan's ongoing battle against the human race. This can be done by connecting this description of the Nephilim to other accounts that use a different word for giant, but then link the word in a manner that shows its connection to the Nephilim.

One such key is in Numbers when the Nephilim are described as the sons of Anak; the spies then note with which cities these giants are associated. Later, when giants are referred to in the Old Testament, the writer occasionally notes that the giant was like those found in one of these cities. This then gives us the "link" to prove that these giants are also Nephilim, even though a different Hebrew word is being used to describe them.

Thus, the key to making these relationships is in Numbers:

And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. (Numbers 13:32 KJV)

Thus, when Moses uses another Hebrew term for "giant," he took pains to show the link between this term and the Nephilim during his cataloging of the peoples who were dwelling in the Promised Land:

The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims. (Deuteronomy 2:10-11 KJV)

The word translated as "giant" here is Raphah (or Rephaim in its plural form), a word that has several meanings including "giant," "ghost," and "deceased." In fact the same word or variants of it are translated as "dead" or "deceased" in other parts of the Bible. (Job 26:5; Psalm 88:10; Proverbs 2:18; Proverbs 21:16; Isaiah 14:8; Isaiah 26:14; Isaiah 26:19 KJV)

Moses took the trouble to link the Nephilim to the Anakim. We can then see that the two terms are related and that the Raphah are Nephilim or, at least, creatures very similar to the Nephilim.

Although these races of giants were eventually rooted out of the Promised Land, their marks are still seen there even today. The three-mile-long vale commonly called Baqa' along the road to Bethlehem is still known as the "Valley of the Rephaim" or "Valley of the Giants." (Charles DeLoach, Giants: A Reference Guide from History, the Bible, and Recorded Legend , Scarecrow Press, Meuchen, NJ, 1995, p. 149) Other areas were associated with the giants in Joshua with the Avvim, Philistines, and Amorites all having some giants among their general populations.

The biblical contention that giants roamed the Promised Land is supported by archeological evidence (DeLoach, pp. 150-151) as well as the Ras Samra Texts , discovered in 1928, which make frequent mention of the Rephaim in their cuneiform texts. (DeLoach, p. 150)

The ancient historian Josephus also tells about the Jewish battle to wipe out the Nephilim in the Promised Land. He wrote that after the Jewish fighters had moved from Hebron to battle the Gibborim:

And when they had taken it, they slew all the inhabitants. There were till then left a race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight and terrible to the hearing. The bones of these men are still shown to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men. (Josephus, Antiquities , 5.2.3.)

Unfortunately, the Hebrew fighters tired of their work and didn't wipe out the very last of the Nephilim in the Promised Land. After seven years of fighting, Joshua permitted them to stop their war on the inhabitants of the land. While there were no Anakim left in most of the land, some remained in Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod. (Joshua 11:21-23 KJV) These would later join the Philistines and may have been part of the tribe of giants that migrated northward over the next millennium, traveling westward through Europe.

That's probably enough for now.
 

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UPDATE: A month after my previous post above, I had the following dream.


[SIZE=24pt]Two Nephilim Women[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=14pt]This was a long dream. I can remember only the ending of it.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]I was with someone, perhaps my eldest daughter (age 11 years). I was behaving protectively of her, which is normal of me. The scene was a very large room with a high ceiling that was supported by tall columns. It was an awesome sight when I glanced upward to see two giant size females standing next to me; the tops of their heads nearly touched the ceiling. I was not afraid, as for some reason I possessed the requisite authority to be present in the same room with them. I stood no taller than knee height to them. One of the females spoke to me, attempting to persuade me of the Nephilim’s Godly origin, telling me that proof of their righteous standing before God was found in scripture. She was implying that the Nephilim had as much Lawful right to the tree of life as born again believers in Jesus Christ. I repeatedly asked her to indicate to me the specific verses of scripture that would support her claim. She did not answer me directly but continued to generalize about what she believed scripture said. It was then that I discerned she was speaking against God’s revealed truth of the matter.[/SIZE]
 

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sojourner4Christ said:
UPDATE: A month after my previous post above, I had the following dream.


[SIZE=24pt]Two Nephilim Women[/SIZE]

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[SIZE=14pt]22October2014 Wednesday 4:50 am[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]This was a long dream. I can remember only the ending of it.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=14pt]I was with someone, perhaps my eldest daughter (age 11 years). I was behaving protectively of her, which is normal of me. The scene was a very large room with a high ceiling that was supported by tall columns. It was an awesome sight when I glanced upward to see two giant size females standing next to me; the tops of their heads nearly touched the ceiling. I was not afraid, as for some reason I possessed the requisite authority to be present in the same room with them. I stood no taller than knee height to them. One of the females spoke to me, attempting to persuade me of the Nephilim’s Godly origin, telling me that proof of their righteous standing before God was found in scripture. She was implying that the Nephilim had as much Lawful right to the tree of life as born again believers in Jesus Christ. I repeatedly asked her to indicate to me the specific verses of scripture that would support her claim. She did not answer me directly but continued to generalize about what she believed scripture said. It was then that I discerned she was speaking against God’s revealed truth of the matter.[/SIZE]

Ok, here is the bottom line, we know the giants are the beings the devils used to inhabit. Understanding this, I can interpret your dream as very simply the ramblings of devils trying to present themselves to you as angels. They claim to have a Godly origin, meaning that like angels, they claim to be created, instead of a perversion of Gods creation as scripture states. We see this all over the internet, with the ancient astronaut Darwinists and so called "Christians" twisting scripture by claiming that the giants are fallen angels. So what you are in fact witnessed in your dream was a blurring of the lines between angels and giants. The motive for this, as I've stated many times before is crystal clear. If you blur the lines between what angels and giants are by claiming them to be one and the same and you can convince people of this sub consciously through various methods like film (Prometheus being a shining example) then it is a stepping stone towards getting people to believe that the giants are indeed off world creatures. If Angels are off world heavenly beings as scripture states, then so are the giants. This is the impression that these devils are trying to implant in your mind and this will all come to fruition should we get a disclosure from say, groups like the Smithsonian Institute that the giants were real, which I highly expect is coming very soon.
 

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I’ll reply below in red text.

It’s good to see the OP re-joining the thread.

Ok, here is the bottom line, we know the giants are the beings the devils used to inhabit. Understanding this, I can interpret your dream as very simply the ramblings of devils trying to present themselves to you as angels. Yes, it’s a fairly straight forward presentation. They claim to have a Godly origin, meaning that like angels, they claim to be created, instead of a perversion of Gods creation as scripture states. According to scripture, they were the product of the mating of the fallen “sons of God” with earthly women; these offspring were, among other oddities, large in stature. We see this all over the internet, with the ancient astronaut Darwinists and so called "Christians" twisting scripture by claiming that the giants are fallen angels.. Again, the “giants” are the offspring of the ungodly union -- a perversion of creation. So what you are in fact witnessed in your dream was a blurring of the lines between angels and giants. I agree that the Satanic element would attempt to convince me (and us) that giants are of Godly origin, which, of course, is the lie. The motive for this, as I've stated many times before is crystal clear. If you blur the lines between what angels and giants are by claiming them to be one and the same and you can convince people of this sub consciously through various methods like film (Prometheus being a shining example) then it is a stepping stone towards getting people to believe that the giants are indeed off world creatures. Of course. Giants are not extra-terrestrial, they are intra-terrestrial (BTW, God is other than "extraterrestrial" i.e. he is beyond either definition). If Angels are off world heavenly beings as scripture states, then so are the giants. Yes, that is the deception currently underway. This is the impression that these devils are trying to implant in your mind and this will all come to fruition should we get a disclosure from say, groups like the Smithsonian Institute that the giants were real, which I highly expect is coming very soon. I agree. The giants were (and are) very real. They have always been here, and they are here now.

I know the topic about hybrids and Nephilim is pretty far out, but not so far out when explained in terms that people are accustomed to.

I can tell you, for example, that large underground bases do exist and that many bizarre projects such as genetic experimentation and hybridization have taken place there for many years.

There are enforcers make sure that the general public never receives the truth, and does not believe the truth if it is told.

Many people are talking about Nephilim, but are they ready to believe that the Nephilim are a reality? What if someone came forth to say that they know for a fact that the Nephilim are real, would this person be believed?

My bet is that people can talk all day long about Nephilim, but if someone came forward to say that they know from first-hand experience that the Nephilim do indeed exist today on earth, this person would not be believed.

Consider this: Just because you can't see it, just because you can't hear it, does not mean it does not exist.

Dogs are able to hear frequencies that are not audible to our human ears. The earth looks flat, but isn't. In this physical world, there are gases we do not see, but exist. There are radio waves, microwaves and other frequencies that we do not see or hear, but they do indeed exist.

Much of what we do not understand today is not because we are not intelligent enough as a species to understand, or that we are not spiritually "evolved" enough to grasp it.

The simple truth is, we lack the necessary information for proper analysis. The information does exist and can be proven and soon will be given to the world, but it will be given in a perverted form to support a particular agenda, the agenda that a physical hierarchy of power serves, an organization some call the "Illuminati".

Have you ever had this experience? You were traveling, and as you enter a large city, you can not help but sense an air of evil hanging like a blanket over that city.

You don't see it, but you can feel it. Actually, you may not have been imagining it. Just as we have mayors and government officials in the physical world, there are in the supernatural, principalities assigned to specific regions to serve the agenda of an organized governing power. Some know this power as the kingdom of darkness.

If you sense the world is not the same place it was 20 or 30 years ago, that there seems to be a heavier and more evil presence in general, you are not imagining it.

There is indeed a heavier presence here on earth. It is for the purpose of the very last stage of "The Plan". In this last stage, the supernatural is being combined with the physical which will culminate in a spiritual global world order.

Many people who don't believe in the supernatural or super humans or extraterrestrials, will soon believe. This agenda is part of "The Plan", a plan that was authored many centuries ago.

The idea of "Nephilim" is the composite of hybridization, not only that of physical DNA, but that of a "spiritual" hybridization, the combining of human DNA and spirit with that of another "spirit" creation that does not appear to us to exist on this physical earth.

Just because our eyes do not see this other "spirit" creation does not mean that it does not exist, nor does it mean that it can not sometimes manifest or procreate. It is all a matter of one having the missing data for one to understand the possibility.

Someone recently asked me if I, in my lifetime have witnessed supernatural manifestations or ritual magic. My first thought was, yes, everyday from as long as I can remember. My next thought was, that I never thought the term "magic" applied to anything I ever did or experienced, that when one understands the supernatural, there is nothing magical or mysterious about it. Everything is self explanatory. So it is with the topic of what the "Nephilim" are, and whether this type of hybridization is even possible.

The project of creating physical bodies for a dark spiritual hierarchy is real. The project of creating these composites is literally where the supernatural evil rubber meets the physical road.

So, if the world feels more evil today than it did 20 or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it.

The presence of evil on this earth has been stepped up for the last phase of "The Plan". This presence is greater than a supernatural evil presence one may sense, but not see. We now have among us evil representatives in physical forms that do indeed look human, but are not.

They are a combination of the human and "supernatural" that are able to operate in both realms. I know that at face value it sounds like fantasy, but in time you will be shown that it is not fantasy at all.

These evil forms are all in preparation for this last phase of "The Plan", which is much more than a physical plan for global dominance over humanity.
 
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I’ll reply below in red text.

It’s good to see the OP re-joining the thread.

Ok, here is the bottom line, we know the giants are the beings the devils used to inhabit. Understanding this, I can interpret your dream as very simply the ramblings of devils trying to present themselves to you as angels. Yes, it’s a fairly straight forward presentation. They claim to have a Godly origin, meaning that like angels, they claim to be created, instead of a perversion of Gods creation as scripture states. According to scripture, they were the product of the mating of the fallen “sons of God” with earthly women; these offspring were, among other oddities, large in stature. We see this all over the internet, with the ancient astronaut Darwinists and so called "Christians" twisting scripture by claiming that the giants are fallen angels.. Again, the “giants” are the offspring of the ungodly union -- a perversion of creation. So what you are in fact witnessed in your dream was a blurring of the lines between angels and giants. I agree that the Satanic element would attempt to convince me (and us) that giants are of Godly origin, which, of course, is the lie. The motive for this, as I've stated many times before is crystal clear. If you blur the lines between what angels and giants are by claiming them to be one and the same and you can convince people of this sub consciously through various methods like film (Prometheus being a shining example) then it is a stepping stone towards getting people to believe that the giants are indeed off world creatures. Of course. Giants are not extra-terrestrial, they are intra-terrestrial (BTW, God is other than "extraterrestrial" i.e. he is beyond either definition). If Angels are off world heavenly beings as scripture states, then so are the giants. Yes, that is the deception currently underway. This is the impression that these devils are trying to implant in your mind and this will all come to fruition should we get a disclosure from say, groups like the Smithsonian Institute that the giants were real, which I highly expect is coming very soon. I agree. The giants were (and are) very real. They have always been here, and they are here now.

I know the topic about hybrids and Nephilim is pretty far out, but not so far out when explained in terms that people are accustomed to.

I can tell you, for example, that large underground bases do exist and that many bizarre projects such as genetic experimentation and hybridization have taken place there for many years.

There are enforcers make sure that the general public never receives the truth, and does not believe the truth if it is told.

Many people are talking about Nephilim, but are they ready to believe that the Nephilim are a reality? What if someone came forth to say that they know for a fact that the Nephilim are real, would this person be believed?

My bet is that people can talk all day long about Nephilim, but if someone came forward to say that they know from first-hand experience that the Nephilim do indeed exist today on earth, this person would not be believed.

Consider this: Just because you can't see it, just because you can't hear it, does not mean it does not exist.

Dogs are able to hear frequencies that are not audible to our human ears. The earth looks flat, but isn't. In this physical world, there are gases we do not see, but exist. There are radio waves, microwaves and other frequencies that we do not see or hear, but they do indeed exist.

Much of what we do not understand today is not because we are not intelligent enough as a species to understand, or that we are not spiritually "evolved" enough to grasp it.

The simple truth is, we lack the necessary information for proper analysis. The information does exist and can be proven and soon will be given to the world, but it will be given in a perverted form to support a particular agenda, the agenda that a physical hierarchy of power serves, an organization some call the "Illuminati".

Have you ever had this experience? You were traveling, and as you enter a large city, you can not help but sense an air of evil hanging like a blanket over that city.

You don't see it, but you can feel it. Actually, you may not have been imagining it. Just as we have mayors and government officials in the physical world, there are in the supernatural, principalities assigned to specific regions to serve the agenda of an organized governing power. Some know this power as the kingdom of darkness.

If you sense the world is not the same place it was 20 or 30 years ago, that there seems to be a heavier and more evil presence in general, you are not imagining it.

There is indeed a heavier presence here on earth. It is for the purpose of the very last stage of "The Plan". In this last stage, the supernatural is being combined with the physical which will culminate in a spiritual global world order.

Many people who don't believe in the supernatural or super humans or extraterrestrials, will soon believe. This agenda is part of "The Plan", a plan that was authored many centuries ago.

The idea of "Nephilim" is the composite of hybridization, not only that of physical DNA, but that of a "spiritual" hybridization, the combining of human DNA and spirit with that of another "spirit" creation that does not appear to us to exist on this physical earth.

Just because our eyes do not see this other "spirit" creation does not mean that it does not exist, nor does it mean that it can not sometimes manifest or procreate. It is all a matter of one having the missing data for one to understand the possibility.

Someone recently asked me if I, in my lifetime have witnessed supernatural manifestations or ritual magic. My first thought was, yes, everyday from as long as I can remember. My next thought was, that I never thought the term "magic" applied to anything I ever did or experienced, that when one understands the supernatural, there is nothing magical or mysterious about it. Everything is self explanatory. So it is with the topic of what the "Nephilim" are, and whether this type of hybridization is even possible.

The project of creating physical bodies for a dark spiritual hierarchy is real. The project of creating these composites is literally where the supernatural evil rubber meets the physical road.

So, if the world feels more evil today than it did 20 or 30 years ago, you are not imagining it.

The presence of evil on this earth has been stepped up for the last phase of "The Plan". This presence is greater than a supernatural evil presence one may sense, but not see. We now have among us evil representatives in physical forms that do indeed look human, but are not.

They are a combination of the human and "supernatural" that are able to operate in both realms. I know that at face value it sounds like fantasy, but in time you will be shown that it is not fantasy at all.

These evil forms are all in preparation for this last phase of "The Plan", which is much more than a physical plan for global dominance over humanity.

As far as the idea that they are trying to create physical bodies in secret basis for demons to inhabit, it is highly likely that this will have prophetic significance when it comes to the "image of the beast" in revelation when the second beast, or the false prophet rises out of the earth. This is an idea that men like conspiracy radio hosts like William Cooper proposed many times in his broadcasts, that they will invent a creature in a laboratory, which they might pawn off as an alien life form. What a lot of people are missing who have proposed similar ideas is that this is pretty much what happens in Revelation.

In Revelation 13, after the world is deceived into worshiping the beast and the dragon because of his miracles, the false prophet basically convinces the world that they should create a body in the beasts image. After the world creates the body, the false prophet implants the body with a spirit which brings the body alive causing it to speak, and of course the world will worship this thing on the pain of death. This is meant to mimic the creation account of Adam when God created his body from the material of the earth and breathed a spirit into him, which is the same way he created all life. It is believed that the "image of the beast" is the "abomination of desolation" spoken of in the book of Daniel that will be set up in the temple for worship.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

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And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
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And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
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And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
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And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Edit: To clarify, they are NOT going to claim that the false prophet breathed a spirit into him. What they will do is pawn it off as a force of nature. The explanation will sound very much like the new age concept of god, which is also "the force" in Star Wars, and they WILL have to make it sound very scientific.
 

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...they will invent a creature in a laboratory, which they might pawn off as an alien life form. What a lot of people are missing who have proposed similar ideas is that this is pretty much what happens in Revelation.
The Lord has confirmed to me that these creatures exist today.

It’s a numbers game for Satan; he’s planning as if he can kick God’s behind at Armageddon. So Satan wants lots of goyim for his devils to inhabit. As silly as it seems to the born again believer, the bedrock belief system of the occult world is that Satan, through such minions, can prevent the second coming of Christ.

In Revelation 13, after the world is deceived into worshiping the beast and the dragon because of his miracles, the false prophet basically convinces the world that they should create a body in the beasts image. After the world creates the body, the false prophet implants the body with a spirit which brings the body alive causing it to speak, and of course the world will worship this thing on the pain of death.
There are many such "implanted bodies" (antichrists) extant.

This is meant to mimic the creation account of Adam when God created his body from the material of the earth and breathed a spirit into him, which is the same way he created all life.
Yes @ perverting, blaspheming, all things Godly, including the creation account.

It is believed that the "image of the beast" is the "abomination of desolation" spoken of in the book of Daniel that will be set up in the temple for worship.
In scripture, the Beast is defined as kings (Daniel 7:17, Revelation 17:10-12), and man-made kingdoms (Daniel 7:18,23, Revelation 16:10) that have power to make war and kill (Revelation 11:7; 17:14). The Beast is the government, with rulers and armies, that are against God and his servants (Revelation 19:19). Jesus said, "He that is not with me is against me" (Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23). So rulers that enforce laws contrary to God’s Law, are the Beast.

Followers of the Beast receive his mark of ownership; submission to ungodly, anti-Christian law. The mark in Revelation is not to be taken literally. It’s an allusion to the Old Testament symbol of man’s total obedience to God, and stands as a warning that a society’s God (whether the true God or the state) demands complete commitment in all areas of life. Christians cannot compromise (2 Cor.6:14-18). The state is not absolute, it’s under authority of Christ (Psalm 2, Matthew 28:18); it’s an instrument of God (Romans 13:1-7). It has no license to do whatever it likes. Its ordained purpose is for a rod of correction; to speak the word of God, to punish evil, and to reward good (Romans 13:4, 1 Peter 2:14, Hebrews 13:7). That is its only authorized purpose.

Who gives power to the Beast? The dragon (Revelation 13:2,4). Who is the dragon? This dragon is the spirit of Satan (Revelation 12:9). Those who have the spirit of Satan make war with those who "...keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Revelation 12:17). The Lord God has revealed himself as God, but the spirit of Satan is the god and prince of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4, John 12:31).

The ‘abomination that maketh desolate’, is the resumption of animal sacrifice when the blood of Jesus has already been shed for our sins (the abominable rendering of the bloodwork of Jesus to be of no effect, i.e. desolate). And the ‘temple’ is not anything made with hands, as you are now the temple. But Satan operates in dishonour; thus, he requires legal permission to muck with you. And so, we ask the $60,000 question: Exactly how are they going about, obtaining the legal permission required to set up that image within the believer? Hints: willful obesiance to ungodly authority, chemtrail contents, GMO's, vac's/injections, abortions, ad nauseum.
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This thread is really amazing.

I've never heard so much misinformation on Christian forum before.

I'm gobsmacked.