THE REAL PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE

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Jay Ross

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The word aion means age in Matthew 24:3. That should be clear, but it seems that nothing is clear to you. So, if Jesus was meaning to talk about the age passing away in Matthew 24:34 then the word "aion" would have been used instead of "genea". The "aion" will pass away at the same time the "genea" passes away, but the two words are not referring to the same thing.

Please note that Mat 24:3 is the disciples asking when Christ's second coming would occur and when the "world" would end. The end of the overarching Age of the seven ages heralds the same outcome.

LOL! Not only are you very lacking in discernment of scripture, you are very lacking in discernment about people. He and I are not chummy at all. I have refuted many of his false claims. Like you, even he is right about a few things, but we are far from chummy. LOL.

I thought that I would get a bit out of you being chummy with Davy.

Now your accusation that I am lacking in discernment of scripture is a double-edged sword in that it also shines a light back on you and you character as well.

The question who is more right in the grey areas of all theological discussions.

When we are disagreeing on the theology in the grey areas both proteaginous are right and wrong at the same time. It all depends on which side of the argument we are within the grey areas being debated.
 

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Please note that Mat 24:3 is the disciples asking when Christ's second coming would occur and when the "world" would end. The end of the overarching Age of the seven ages heralds the same outcome.
The word "aion" refers to an age or period of time. Yes, the world ("kosmos") as we know it will end at the end of the "aion", but the question related to when this current age/time period would end and not necessarily when the world ("kosmos"). But, again, it so happens that the world ("kosmos") will end when this age ("aion") ends.

As for your "seven ages" reference, that is not taught anywhere in scripture and comes only from your imagination.

I thought that I would get a bit out of you being chummy with Davy.
So, you were joking. You're normally quite serious, so I wasn't aware that you had a sense of humor (that is a joke, also).

Now your accusation that I am lacking in discernment of scripture is a double-edged sword in that it also shines a light back on you and you character as well.
Nah.

The question who is more right in the grey areas of all theological discussions.
That would be me if you're talking about you and me.
 

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The word "aion" refers to an age or period of time. Yes, the world ("kosmos") as we know it will end at the end of the "aion", but the question related to when this current age/time period would end and not necessarily when the world ("kosmos"). But, again, it so happens that the world ("kosmos") will end when this age ("aion") ends.

As for your "seven ages" reference, that is not taught anywhere in scripture and comes only from your imagination.


So, you were joking. You're normally quite serious, so I wasn't aware that you had a sense of humor (that is a joke, also).


Nah.


That would be me if you're talking about you and me.

And it would also mean that you are wrong as well.
 

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About what exactly? That claim doesn't mean anything if you can't back it up with scripture.

It means that if the discussion is taking place in the grey area between true and false, that we can be both right and wrong at the same time.
 

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Continuing the Biblical parable of the fig tree.. before some try to interrupt with their nonsense...

God's prophecy He gave in Jeremiah 24 about the two baskets of figs should be understood along with Lord Jesus commanding us, His disciples, to learn the parable of the fig tree. That prophecy is where God used figs to represent Judah and those with them returning to Jerusalem, symbolic of the fig tree, which in fig horticulture is set out as a shoot (twig, root, etc.).

Jer 24
1 The LORD shewed me, and, behold, two baskets of figs were set before the temple of the LORD, after that Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon had carried away captive Jeconiah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, and the princes of Judah, with the carpenters and smiths, from Jerusalem, and had brought them to Babylon.


Some might get bored with me covering it again and again about the two separate 'houses' that God split the old kingdom of Israel into, but that has to be understood here right off the bat about this Jehoiakim as "king of Judah". That king title is about Jehoiakim's reign in Jerusalem over just the 3-tribe "kingdom of Judah" after God had split old Israel in Solomon's days. Those of that southern kingdom are the ones who called themselves JEWS, that title originating from the tribe of Judah.

So this prophecy is very... specific about only a certain group of Israelites at Jerusalem-Judea, and involving future children at Jerusalem. Nebuchadnezzar at this point in time had come and prepared to take them out of the southern holy land captive to Babylon.

God's prophet Jeremiah is shown (by vision) two baskets of figs sitting in front of the 2nd temple in Jerusalem.

2 One basket had very good figs, even like the figs that are first ripe: and the other basket had very naughty figs, which could not be eaten, they were so bad.

3 Then said the LORD unto me, "What seest thou, Jeremiah?" And I said, "Figs; the good figs, very good; and the evil, very evil, that cannot be eaten, they are so evil."


Now we know rotten figs are not evil. What is meant by that then? The Hebrew word for "evil" can mean bad physically or morally. No doubt the KJV translators wanted us to understand it as evil because of who God defines that bad basket of figs as. So keep going...

4 Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
5 "Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel;
Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah, whom I have sent out of this place into the land of the Chaldeans for their good.

God points directly to Judah as the good basket of figs.

Judah's captivity to the "land of the Chaldeans" is about their seventy years Babylon captivity that God warned them about through His prophet Jeremiah. God told them to go, and He would take care of them there captive at Babylon, that their numbers would even be increased, that it was for their good.

Again, this involved only the 3-tribe "house of Judah" that were the only Israelites left in the holy land after God had removed the northern ten tribes captive to Assyria about 120 years prior to this. The three tribes were the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, and they called themsevles Jews, as did the strangers that dwelt among them in Jerusalem-Judea.

6 For I will set Mine eyes upon them for good, and I will bring them again to this land: and I will build them, and not pull them down; and I will plant them, and not pluck them up.

That return of the "house of Judah" back to Jerusalem-Judea happened after their Babylon captivity had ended. But only a small remnant of them that went captive actually returned to rebuild Jerusalem and the temple. Because God had taken good care of them while they were captive to Babylon, the majority of those Jews chose to remain living in Babylon, and then were further scattered through the countries.

Verse 6 above is where this prophecy especially is about the setting out of the fig tree shoot in the parable of the fig tree. God promised here that He would bring Judah back to the holy land, and never remove them again.

We know the Jews were scattered from Jerusalem in 70 A.D. by the Romans led by general Titus when the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem and the 2nd temple. So this prophecy was extended to at least some time after... 70 A.D. about the Jew's return. And God promised when He brought them back to the holy land, He would never remove them out of the land again.

And so far, since many Jews had been returning after the Romans had paganized Jerusalem with their idols to Jupiter many years after 70 A.D., this prophecy about the return and not plucking them up again, was still extended, until... 1948 when Israel became a nation again in the holy land with many Jews of the "house of Judah" returning.

Now if the Jews in the holy land are scattered once again, then this prophecy of the two baskets of figs returning would be extended in time. So far, today's Jews are still well established in the holy land, showing the fig tree shoot has been set out, and past 1948 it has been time to start looking for the summer fig harvest by Christ (i.e., Christ's future coming).

7 And I will give them an heart to know Me, that I am the LORD: and they shall be My people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto Me with their whole heart.

Truly, there is a very devout group of Jews today in the nation of Israel whose whole heart is focused on God and His Old Testament Word, except the majority of them still reject Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ, Messiah, with God Himself having blinded them spiritually away from The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

8 And as the evil figs, which cannot be eaten, they are so evil; surely thus saith the LORD, So will I give Zedekiah the king of Judah, and his princes, and the residue of Jerusalem, that remain in this land, and them that dwell in the land of Egypt:
9 And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.
10 And I will send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, among them, till they be consumed from off the land that I gave unto them and to their fathers.
KJV


As for the evil basket of figs, these were given to Zedekiah king of Judah before the Babylon captivity. They dwelt among the Jews of the "house of Judah" at Jerusalem-Judea. It is about the "tares" in Lord Jesus' parable of the tares of the field in Matthew 13. They represent the crept in Canaanite bondservants and temple servant Nethinims that went captive with the "house of Judah" to Babylon, with a portion of them returning to Jerusalem, and another portion scattered through the nations like the majority of Jews would be scattered after the Babylon captivity. (See Book of Ezra)

In SUMMARY:
The most important parts of the above prophecy is God's Promise to return the Jews of the "house of Judah" back to the holy land at Jerusalem-Judea after their Babylon captivity, and never... remove them out of the holy lands again. Also, God's Promise having included the return with them of the "tares", the crept in unawares of Jude 4 that represent the evil basket of figs joined with Judah at Jerusalem.

If that evil basket of figs had not returned with the small remnant of the "house of Judah" to build Jerusalem and the 2nd temple again, then the scribes and Pharisees that would later conspire to have Lord Jesus crucified would not have happened. Consider that then about that evil basket of figs in the prophecy. And they are still there in today's Jerusalem, and still sit in Moses' seat of the law.

That is why the majority of today's orthodox Jews will still remain spiritually blinded away from The Gospel, especially in Jerusalem where their reformed Sanhedrin has formed up again. The majority of them will remain spiritually blinded until Lord Jesus returns. Then they will recognize the pseudo-Christ/false-Messiah that shows up first in Jerusalem for the tribulation, whom they will bow to by mistake, and is not the REAL Christ, but an imposter.

Oh, and that latter part about the evil basket of figs there today, with the Jews, and the coming false-Messiah there, will happen while the majority of the ten northern tribes are still... scattered out of the holy land, and still do not know their heritage as the larger part of the seed of Israel. They too will be awakened to their heritage as Israel on the day of Christ's future return to gather them.
 
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Oh Davy, you are trapped in today's understanding of the word "generation" means.

In the LX Jewish translation into the Greek language where variations of Hebrew root word OT:1755 was found in the Hebrew Text the Greek word used was "genea". which is what has been used in the New Testament Translations.

This is my work from 2009 for the meaning of OT:1755: -

View attachment 80757


Attached is the main body of this work for those who are happy to open the PDF file. Read it and spit out anything you do not agree with.


Shalom
Excellent document thank you.
 

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I thought that I would get a bit out of you being chummy with Davy.

Now your accusation that I am lacking in discernment of scripture is a double-edged sword in that it also shines a light back on you and you character as well.

Spiritual Israelite and I are not that chummy. So trying to use that for a credibility attack reveals your illiteracy even to a greater extent.

Based on your false supposition all pastors should just throw their Strong's Exhaustive Concordance in the garbage. So excuse us, we didn't know you had a Doctorate in the Biblical languages...


NT:1074
genea (ghen-eh-ah'); from (a presumed derivative of) NT:1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):

KJV - age, generation, nation, time.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)


Thus the word there for "generation" in Christ's parable of the fig tree can be used just like how it can be used in English. DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT, it can mean either an age or era of a certain generation living at the time, or to a literal generation of specific offspring.

And in the context of Matthew 24 about the "generation" of the parable of the fig tree, Jesus LINKED IT with those who will SEE ALL THOSE SIGNS HE GAVE IN THEIR 'GENERATION' OF TIME.


Thus we don't need some document that jumps through the hoops trying to force that word out of the CONTEXT WHICH JESUS USED IT IN.

And furthermore, the CONTEXT Lord Jesus used it in with seeing "all these things" for the final generation living on earth, their SEEING that last SIGN He gave is about what? It is about His future 2nd coming!!
 

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Your rebelliousness against my Lord Jesus Christ and His written Word is obvious by your words now. Since you have been shown as tampering with the written Bible Scripture of Matthew 24:34 concerning how Jesus used the idea of generation, you reveal you are against what that Bible Scriptures states, and what Jesus Himself said there.

Your attempt at redirection of the context of Matthew 24:34 can only be because you are simply Biblically illiterate, or that you have a false agenda against the New Testament Scriptures, pointing to you possibly following the Jew's religion.

Welcome to my IGNORE list, again. (Yes brethren, I try to give the apostates another possible chance to come to the Truth written in God's Word instead of their following the traditions of men. So I will occasionally remove them off of Ignore.)

Davy, your lack of discernment of God's promises, from Exodus onwards in the Old Testament, was not to return the Israelites to the Land of Canaan once more, but it was His intention that when He begins gathered them to Himself once more from where they will be living, scattered throughout the whole earth, that he would plant them in His fertile soils/fields and would teach them on the religion of Israel where He found them so that they could become once more His Holy Priesthood, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations Covenantal people once more.

Davy you accusation are very emotional and not based on Scriptural facts as can be seen in the quote above.

In SUMMARY:
The most important parts of the above prophecy is God's Promise to return the Jews of the "house of Judah" back to the holy land at Jerusalem-Judea after their Babylon captivity, and never... remove them out of the holy lands again. Also, God's Promise having included the return with them of the "tares", the crept in unawares of Jude 4 that represent the evil basket of figs joined with Judah at Jerusalem.

Davy, your claim that God would return Israel back to the Land of Judah after their exile in Babylon is true but your claim that God will never remove them again out of the Holy Lands is blatantly not true because in 70 AD all of Israel was finally scattered to the four corners of the earth.

Spiritual Israelite and I are not that chummy. So, trying to use that for a credibility attack reveals your illiteracy even to a greater extent.

Based on your false supposition all pastors should just throw their Strong's Exhaustive Concordance in the garbage. So excuse us, we didn't know you had a Doctorate in the Biblical languages...


NT:1074
genea (ghen-eh-ah'); from (a presumed derivative of) NT:1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):

KJV - age, generation, nation, time.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Davy, I too use PCSoft's Bible software, and I have also noted that there are differences between the interlinear PCsoft has and that used by Bible Hub. Even the Strong Numbers differ as well between the two sources. As to believing that "all pastors should just throw their Strong's Concordance in the garbage," is you constructing an emotional Straw man argument which is not true against me by trying to put words in my mouth. It was just another emotional strawman's putdown.

I note that you ignored these four words in your definition of NT:1074, "(a presumed derivative of)."

Because of this I dug deeper into what Jesus was saying.

Thus the word there for "generation" in Christ's parable of the fig tree can be used just like how it can be used in English. DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT, it can mean either an age or era of a certain generation living at the time, or to a literal generation of specific offspring.

And in the context of Matthew 24 about the "generation" of the parable of the fig tree, Jesus LINKED IT with those who will SEE ALL THOSE SIGNS HE GAVE IN THEIR 'GENERATION' OF TIME.


Thus we don't need some document that jumps through the hoops trying to force that word out of the CONTEXT WHICH JESUS USED IT IN.

And furthermore, the CONTEXT Lord Jesus used it in with seeing "all these things" for the final generation living on earth, their SEEING that last SIGN He gave is about what? It is about His future 2nd coming!!

Davy, your lack of discernment and the Greek errors in the LXX translation between the Original Hebrew texts and the generated Greek text of the LXX reflects the teaching of the Rabi who the seventy scholars had sat under.

Davy I searched where the LXX translated H:1755 into the Greek text around 250 BC and this is what I found: -

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In the LXX in Genesis 15:16 Genea was used to describe an age, namely the fourth age of the existence of the nation of Israel from the time of Isaac's birth. If Genea has the meaning of "an age" in the LXX in Genesis 15:16, then the same meaning is applicable in Matthew 24:34.

Remember Genesis 15:16 was fulfilled in 1948 when some of Abraham's descendants returned to the Land of Canaan in their own strength after encouragement from some very misguided American "theologians" trying to hurry God along by forcing the end times upon us all before its determined time.

However, in the Lesson of the Fig Tree in Matthew 24:32, this one verse parable tells us when the redemption of Israel by God would begin and the beginning of the last Age, i.e. the Seventh Age.

Most of what was told in the Mt Olivet discourse was going to happen during the seventh age, predominately in the Little While Period at the conclusion of the seventh age. Davy, your expressed implied understanding of the Greek word "genea" is in agreement with what I have posted, however some theologians have adopted the Preterist view that all of the prophecies would be fulfilled during the descendant generations alive who witnessed Christ's crucifixion which is more blatantly wrong than your understanding.

Davy you are beginning to sound just like a grumpy old man when people question your understanding, and you just do not enjoy others thinking for themselves and coming to a very different conclusion.

Shalom
 
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Always a marker of those who follow men's traditions instead of God's Word as written, they have no Scripture recourse to counter with, so they try to make up catchy names to label a person with. That's an automatic loss in an actual debate.
 

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Always a marker of those who follow men's traditions instead of God's Word as written, they have no Scripture recourse to counter with, so they try to make up catchy names to label a person with. That's an automatic loss in an actual debate.

And you Davy are also guilty of this false argument tactic as can be seen in a number of responses to my posts.

Oh well, time to put you on the ignore list if you cannot argue without resorting to a false argument. It is so sad to see you doing this.
 

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BRETHREN IN CHRIST JESUS:

Like I had said brethren, Lord Jesus in His parable of the fig tree was speaking of the generation of people living on earth that will SEE His future return. He was NOT... referring to any specific peoples, but to ALL peoples living at the time of His coming.

What does that do to all the false prophets who try... to push all those Signs He gave there back in history? What Jesus showed about the generation that will SEE His coming destroys their false theories on His Olivet discourse signs which are meant for the FINAL GENERATION LIVING ON EARTH THAT WILL LITERALLY SEE HIS FUTURE COMING.

Davy, I would encourage you to read the document ( attached PDF, post #10 ) by Jay Ross before dismissing it. You may ultimately disagree with some of its conclusions, and that's perfectly fine, but it raises a question that deserves serious consideration. I have read it 3 times over and will read it again it is that useful.

The document approaches the parable from a different direction. Rather than beginning with modern English definitions, it examines the biblical concept of "generation" as it is used in Scripture and considers whether it can also refer to an age or prophetic period. Whether or not you accept the author's chronological model, that question itself is worth exploring.

What I found most valuable is the possibility that Jesus was speaking of the final prophetic age rather than a single human lifetime. If that is correct, and Honestly, I think it is, the parable of the fig tree becomes much easier to understand. Just as spring begins with the first leaves and continues until summer arrives, the final prophetic age would begin with the signs Jesus described and continue until every one of them is fulfilled, including His return.

Even if you eventually reject the author's chronology, the study may still help to look at the parable from a biblical perspective you may not have considered before. At the very least, it offers a thoughtful attempt to solve one of the most debated passages in Matthew 24, and I think it truly deserves to be evaluated on its biblical arguments rather than dismissed without being read in case you have not.
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Blessings
 

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When Jesus was talking about the fig tree and summer being nigh, he was referring to this Old Testament prophecy.

Amo 8:1 Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.

Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
 

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Davy, I would encourage you to read the document ( attached PDF, post #10 ) by Jay Ross before dismissing it. You may ultimately disagree with some of its conclusions, and that's perfectly fine, but it raises a question that deserves serious consideration. I have read it 3 times over and will read it again it is that useful.

The document approaches the parable from a different direction. Rather than beginning with modern English definitions, it examines the biblical concept of "generation" as it is used in Scripture and considers whether it can also refer to an age or prophetic period. Whether or not you accept the author's chronological model, that question itself is worth exploring.

What I found most valuable is the possibility that Jesus was speaking of the final prophetic age rather than a single human lifetime. If that is correct, and Honestly, I think it is, the parable of the fig tree becomes much easier to understand. Just as spring begins with the first leaves and continues until summer arrives, the final prophetic age would begin with the signs Jesus described and continue until every one of them is fulfilled, including His return.

Even if you eventually reject the author's chronology, the study may still help to look at the parable from a biblical perspective you may not have considered before. At the very least, it offers a thoughtful attempt to solve one of the most debated passages in Matthew 24, and I think it truly deserves to be evaluated on its biblical arguments rather than dismissed without being read in case you have not.
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Blessings

I appreciate your advice, but in this case I can never agree outside the actual context that Lord Jesus used it in per Matthew 24:32-35, Mark 13:28-31, and Luke 21:29-33.

In all three versions Jesus gave that about the signs of the end for the generation that will experience His future coming. I cannot go against that, regardless of how the Greek word for generation is used elsewhere, especially when the Greek word can mean an age, or an offspring.
 

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I appreciate your advice, but in this case I can never agree outside the actual context that Lord Jesus used it in per Matthew 24:32-35, Mark 13:28-31, and Luke 21:29-33.

In all three versions Jesus gave that about the signs of the end for the generation that will experience His future coming. I cannot go against that, regardless of how the Greek word for generation is used elsewhere, especially when the Greek word can mean an age, or an offspring.

@LoveYeshua Davy is holding onto his stubborn streak, but if you look closely his position it, in all reality, is fairly close to what I have posted.

Davy is pointing to the generation that is alive during the Little While period at the end of the seventh age.

I on the other hand point to what has been prophetically given in all of the Mt Olivet discourse in both Matthew 24 and 25. Although Satan, the beasts and the Little Horn will be imprisoned during the first 1,000 years of the seventh age, Satan is preparing His Good and Faithful servants to run interference during the 1,000-year period season in an attempt to impede the establishment of God's everlasting kingdom. Sadly Matthew 25 does not get much of a look in when we consider the End Times during the Seventh Age.

Shalom

Ps LY, You have encouraged me greatly in that you have considered/read the attached Document three time and looking to read it some more as well. It is very hard to get your laughing matter around ideas that seem strange because they challenge what has been taught as apparently God's "truth"/words.
 

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Brethren in Christ Jesus:

Don't allow these word fallacy preachers to deter you from the simplicity that is God's written Word. When the Greek word genea is used there in Matthew 24:34, that word in the Greek can point to an offspring of people, or to an age of people living at a certain time. In the context of what Lord Jesus was covering there in that Scripture, the SIGNS we are to be watching leading up to His future return at the end of this world, with those SIGNS as "these things" He mentioned, it is unmistakable that Jesus was pointing to the final generation living on earth that will see His future 2nd coming. This is not simply my opinion nor my interpretation either. There is no other interpretation possible based on that context of what Lord Jesus was revealing to His saints.
 

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THE REAL PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE

Jesus’ Teachings…
* Are all Truths
* Are all Warnings

Bottom line KEY, I would say…for any / every man…
IS…a man Freely, Willingly surrendering his whole being…
Body, Soul, Spirit…unto the Lords Offered “PREPARATION” of such Whole man.

“The Day of the Lord” is Not a Single Day.

“The Day of the Lord” is Not a Single Event.

“The Day of the Lord” is Not a Calculation Day or Season or Year on a mans Calendar.

“The Day of the Lord” … IMO …
To an individual man:
IS The day A man has “Taken” the Lords Offering and Become “MADE” Wholly “PREPARED”…by, through, of the Lord…

Thereafter… when the Lord Summons such “MADE PREPARED whole” man “TO the Lord”
…and…
When, How, “The Day of the Lords series of Events unfold”, Such “Wholly Prepared men” ARE WITH HIM.

I am not Waiting…Wondering, Worrying, calculating calendar days, years, seasons, numbers, generations, rumors of wars, wars, mens political diplomatic peace accords, the strangle hold of Satan’s influences on the people at large (rich, poor, famous, foreign, domestic, etc.)

My choosing to Accept the Lords Offering to wholly (body, soul, spirit) Surrender unto His Power…
Is a done deal, FEW, will, did, do, shall Accept… which in DOING SO…
Changes the Whole dynamics of such individual…
From Waiting, Guessing, Surmising, For the Day of the Lord…
To being WITH the Lord, Through the Day of the Lord.


Glory to God,
Taken
 

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What I found most valuable is the possibility that Jesus was speaking of the final prophetic age rather than a single human lifetime.

About that. There is no such idea stated in all of God's Word. That prophetic age stuff is from men's doctrines. Now before you get all bent out of shape, I do recognize God's Word about dispensations of His overall Plan of Salvation, just not the Dispensationalist's theories, especially not the ones which John Darby developed and Bullinger took further.

I implore you to look more closely at what Lord Jesus actually said about "these things" linked with the generation He was pointing to, and keep it simple as His Word is.

Matt 24:33-37
33 So likewise ye,
when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

The final SIGN Jesus just gave with the Matthew 24:29-31 Scripture about His future 2nd coming to gather His saints. That is part of "all these things" that generation is to see in their lifetime.

Question:
Do you believe Jesus' 2nd coming already happened back in the days of His disciples that were with Him upon the Mount of Olives when He gave that prophecy?


Those who claim Jesus was pointing to that generation of His disciples that were with Him actually believe that, but they are in error (i.e., school of Full Preterism). And to assume He meant a conglomerate of future generations over a 2,000 year Church Age period is even more ludicrous, since His 2nd coming, the last SIGN He gave, would have to have happened over and over and over again through all those potential generations until one final time. Such an idea simply defies common sense.

When Jesus said that, "know that it is near, even at the doors", He was speaking of the day of His future 2nd coming. Right there He set the subject time of the parable involving the end of this world in the generation that will see His 2nd coming.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled.

Once again, for emphasis, Lord Jesus repeats that idea of the final generation that will see ALL those SIGNS He gave, which are "these things". And the last SIGN He gave again? The event of His future 2nd coming and gathering of His faithful Church.

35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.

Lord Jesus then adds that Heaven and earth passing away sign for the end of this present world on the day of His 2nd coming. It's about the 2 Peter 3:10 event of man's works that will be burned off the surface of this earth by God's consuming fire on that day of His future 2nd coming. So there again, the subject is still about the literal end of this world, not a Church Age of 2,000 years.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only.
37
But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
KJV

Do you think Lord Jesus was meaning a 2,000 year Church Age period when He said that, "But of that day and hour..."??

The context of His parable of the fig tree is easy, simple. He was pointing to the final generation that will experience His 2nd coming, which is still future to us.
 

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THE REAL PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE

Jesus’ Teachings…
* Are all Truths
* Are all Warnings

Bottom line KEY, I would say…for any / every man…
IS…a man Freely, Willingly surrendering his whole being…
Body, Soul, Spirit…unto the Lords Offered “PREPARATION” of such Whole man.

“The Day of the Lord” is Not a Single Day.

“The Day of the Lord” is Not a Single Event.

“The Day of the Lord” is Not a Calculation Day or Season or Year on a mans Calendar.

“The Day of the Lord” … IMO …
To an individual man:
IS The day A man has “Taken” the Lords Offering and Become “MADE” Wholly “PREPARED”…by, through, of the Lord…

Thereafter… when the Lord Summons such “MADE PREPARED whole” man “TO the Lord”
…and…
When, How, “The Day of the Lords series of Events unfold”, Such “Wholly Prepared men” ARE WITH HIM.

I am not Waiting…Wondering, Worrying, calculating calendar days, years, seasons, numbers, generations, rumors of wars, wars, mens political diplomatic peace accords, the strangle hold of Satan’s influences on the people at large (rich, poor, famous, foreign, domestic, etc.)

My choosing to Accept the Lords Offering to wholly (body, soul, spirit) Surrender unto His Power…
Is a done deal, FEW, will, did, do, shall Accept… which in DOING SO…
Changes the Whole dynamics of such individual…
From Waiting, Guessing, Surmising, For the Day of the Lord…
To being WITH the Lord, Through the Day of the Lord.


Glory to God,
Taken

That's wrongly allegoricalizing God's Word, turning God's written Word to mush.