aspen said:
i totally believe scientists are working their way towards God.
You are totally misinformed.
The academic community of the United States has firmly, permanently and completely shut its doors and collective minds to the possibility, the hint and the suggestion that there is a God and that He or any force outside of dispassionate impersonal elemental reactions had anything whatsoever to do with the universe as we know it. The same is true for Darwinian theory(*) about the eruption and development of life on this planet. Together they form the scientific pretensions for atheistic obsessions against religion - specifically the Christian variety.
No one who has sat in a college level classroom for so little as a single term these days will express objection to my statement here. The academic community, of which scientists at every discipline are a part, are part of this attitude. Bottom line here is the frightening statement that the true scientific method, which was responsible for the accumulation of much of current knowledge, is no longer in effect. Science does not discover anything any more. Science has become more focused upon technological development than discovery of universal laws. Weapons development, medical equipment and consumer items are the important things these days not knowledge.
"The genius of Man in our time has gone into jet-propulsion, atom-splitting, penicillin-curing, etc. There is none over for works of imagination; of spiritual insight or mystical enlightenment. I asked for bread and was given a tranquilizer. It is important to recognize that in our time man has not written one word, thought one thought, put two notes or two bricks together, splashed color on to canvas or concrete into space, in a manner which will be of any conceivable imaginative interest to posterity."
- Malcolm Muggeridge
Anyone who accepts either theory (inanimate creation or extra species evolution) has betrayed the logic of the Christian religion, the Word of God and basic human logic.
You cannot serve God and secular society for you will love one and hate the other. You cannot accept Biblical principles and secular theories at the same time. You must choose one or the other because eventually you'll embrace the one and crucify the other. The two ideologies are inextricably separated.
Passive apathetic indifference on the part of many Christians does not serve the Kingdom of God or advance the gospel. I suspect such attitudes have been adopted to avoid an argument in polite gatherings with heathen friends and co-workers. Church pastors, who I trust less than used car salesmen these days, are as guilty of this logical corruption as those who are not so adept at theological juggling.
The academic and scientific community has thoroughly rejected dismissed and ignored any and every suggestion and logical proof that God had anything whatsoever to do with the creation and formation of the universe or the development of life on this planet. Anyone who believes otherwise or assumes that 'things are changing to accept Christian ideas' has believed a lie.
In case you hadn't guessed by now, my position is that the universe was created by God as well as all life on this planet despite the fact that it's most intelligent species denies it. It's as ridiculous as the computer you're using denying the impact of Microsoft upon its operation. In the American academic community at least stupidity seems to have become a virtue.
and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
(*)
Charles Darwin was a racist.
Begin with the title of Darwin's famous tome on the subject of evolution. Most folks think the title was simply 'The Origin of the Species'. It was not. The full and complete title is an indication of his racist presuppositions.
“ON THE ORIGIN OF SPECIES BY MEANS OF NATURAL SELECTION, OR THE PRESERVATION OF FAVORED RACES IN THE STRUGGLE FOR LIFE”
- Charles Darwin (published 1859)
Google it if you don't believe me. Study and learn, pilgrim.
Recently, in Louisiana, African American State Representative Sharon Weston Broome charged that, "Darwin's ideas on how humans evolved are racist and the key reason for race problems [and] provide the main rationale for racism." As Broome logically concluded, "If evolution has provided the main rationale for racism, and we are teaching our children evolution in schools, then correspondingly we are teaching them racist principles."
If you embrace Darwinian theory you are a racist toward your fellow man and a traitor to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Who do you love? God or man? You can't have it both ways.
snr5557 said:
I know you probably don't mean this, but you make it seem like all scientists are atheists. Scientists can be theists too, because theists can also enjoy and appreciate science. If you didn't mean that I'm sorry that's just how it sounds.
Never mind, I saw that you said secular science. My mistake ^_^
You didn't make a mistake, sir. It is generally acknowledged that many scientists and academicians are not atheists. They are, however,
required to assume the scientific pretentions of the atheistic community
if they want a job or
if they want to be promoted within their discipline.
Such persons as those who believe in God and who also accept a paycheck from atheistic organizations are expected to keep their religious mouths shut and their spiritual assumptions to themselves. If they do not they face dismissal. If a student voices objection they risk an F in the subject if not suspension from the class. This is also a fact.
and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
