Jun2u
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Retrobyter
Word studies are a help but it is not the Gospel. It does not take for anyone to be a “rocket scientist” to know that Jesus is the “Christ” and that there are others who are “pseudo-Christ” or “anti-Christ” or a “fake-Christ.” And, it is false to say, “one must know what and who is a "messiah" before one can intelligently say what an "antichrist" is.
From Ol’ Jack
Thank you for your work and sharing!
My view of the "Antichrist" is more in line with IIThess.2:4, ie, along with others that feel the same thus nothing new, however has more to do with this "Antichrist" revealing himself as the "Antichrist" by this pagan act of seating himself in the true God's own"Sanctuary," not "Temple" in our renditions - Today! Not projecting this off to some future time.
Old Thess. Jack
from Jun2u
A word of encouragement!
Lu 10:21
In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Old Jack
You are more spiritual than most, if not all, who posts in here. They are not aware the Bible is a spiritual book and must therefore be spiritually discerned. Keep up the good work for this is pleasing to God.
This thread has got to be a trick OP! Firstly, the author of the OP asks a question. Secondly, unbeknown to him he answered his own question with a key verse hidden in the four scripture texts he presented. Thirdly, that tells me he has no idea who the anti-Christ is!
It should have taken only one scripture text to expose the real anti-Christ. I’m still waiting for the other posters here to see if they caught that particular verse and nothing nada. I’m truly disappointed. I will assume therefore; that they too don’t know the character of the true identity of the anti-Christ for I believe this is due to their trusting for answers “out there” (in the world) instead of in the Bible.
The scripture in question is 1Jo 4:3 and it reads:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Please note that I purposely omitted the italicized word “spirit.” The translators put it there to “enhance” or make the passage “clearer” but it was not in the original manuscripts. I don’t think it would have mattered much anyway even if it was omitted or not. Lust look at the language on how John wrote the passage. He is saying that the antichrist was already living in his time as he penned 1 John and yet is still to come. There is no human who lived back then in John’s time for almost two thousand years and is still to come, impossible!!! The one who fits the bill to a tee as the antiChrist is none other than >>>SATAN. He it is, is “THE ANTICHRIST.” The world is looking for him in the form of a man and I’m afraid they will have a very, very long wait. SATAN, PLEASE STAND UP!!!
To God Be The Glory
Word studies are a help but it is not the Gospel. It does not take for anyone to be a “rocket scientist” to know that Jesus is the “Christ” and that there are others who are “pseudo-Christ” or “anti-Christ” or a “fake-Christ.” And, it is false to say, “one must know what and who is a "messiah" before one can intelligently say what an "antichrist" is.
And in English it is called the “Law of Moses and the Prophets.” Thank you for the addition above which I’ve neglected to mention in my last postThis is a more accurate rendition of this passage because the Greek word translated as "sin" or "lawlessness" is "anomias," a compound of "a-," meaning "without," and "nomos" meaning the "Law," in particular, the "Law of Moses" commonly called the "Torah," consisting of the first five books of the Bible (also called the Pentateuch). Thus, he is a man who will be religious but without the Law! Of whom would this most concern if not the Jews?!
WOW, I didn’t know the “kingship” of Jesus was in question. I thought the OP was about the person of the antiChrist and since I’m not familiar with the statement then I must be an “antichristos.” Wow, this is really heavy! I’m sorry, but John did not understand it like you have understood it.Some allow themselves to be too nebulous and vague, suggesting that this "kingship" refers to the ENTIRE UNIVERSE! Some will take it "off-world" entirely and say that this "kingship" refers to another dimension called "Heaven!" Some will make it a personal thing and say that He is "King of our hearts" (not that they truly know what a "heart" is).
Readers, you may not like what I'm about to say, but if you have such an understanding of this statement, then YOU, TOO, might be an "antichristos" as John understood the word!
From Ol’ Jack
Thank you for your work and sharing!
My view of the "Antichrist" is more in line with IIThess.2:4, ie, along with others that feel the same thus nothing new, however has more to do with this "Antichrist" revealing himself as the "Antichrist" by this pagan act of seating himself in the true God's own"Sanctuary," not "Temple" in our renditions - Today! Not projecting this off to some future time.
Old Thess. Jack
from Jun2u
A word of encouragement!
Lu 10:21
In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Old Jack
You are more spiritual than most, if not all, who posts in here. They are not aware the Bible is a spiritual book and must therefore be spiritually discerned. Keep up the good work for this is pleasing to God.
This thread has got to be a trick OP! Firstly, the author of the OP asks a question. Secondly, unbeknown to him he answered his own question with a key verse hidden in the four scripture texts he presented. Thirdly, that tells me he has no idea who the anti-Christ is!
It should have taken only one scripture text to expose the real anti-Christ. I’m still waiting for the other posters here to see if they caught that particular verse and nothing nada. I’m truly disappointed. I will assume therefore; that they too don’t know the character of the true identity of the anti-Christ for I believe this is due to their trusting for answers “out there” (in the world) instead of in the Bible.
The scripture in question is 1Jo 4:3 and it reads:
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Please note that I purposely omitted the italicized word “spirit.” The translators put it there to “enhance” or make the passage “clearer” but it was not in the original manuscripts. I don’t think it would have mattered much anyway even if it was omitted or not. Lust look at the language on how John wrote the passage. He is saying that the antichrist was already living in his time as he penned 1 John and yet is still to come. There is no human who lived back then in John’s time for almost two thousand years and is still to come, impossible!!! The one who fits the bill to a tee as the antiChrist is none other than >>>SATAN. He it is, is “THE ANTICHRIST.” The world is looking for him in the form of a man and I’m afraid they will have a very, very long wait. SATAN, PLEASE STAND UP!!!
To God Be The Glory