"True" Israel?

"True" Israel?

In the beginning God “CREATED” Man-KIND….
Called: the Hu-MAN RACE.
In the early days of Man-KIND,
God “MADE” A DIVISION of the HUMAN Race…
Called:
Hebrews, Tribes of Israel, Israel, Jews,
And
Gentiles

“Israel” “IS”…the Bloodline descendent-ship of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, David…

“True Israel” “IS”… such ^
Bloodline “Faithful” TO the the God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, David…
(Anciently, historically, modernly called;
Gods People, HEBREWS, Tribes of ISRAEL, JEWS)

GENTILES…
Are of the Bloodline Descendent-ship of
Abraham, Ishmael, —>offsprings

“Christian” “IS”…a FOLLOWER of Christ Jesus’ Teaching.
“Messianic Jew” “IS”…a FOLLOWER” of Christ Jesus’ Teaching.
Following… “IS” “Tasting” / “trying out” with NO commitment.

Christ Jesus shall “SAVE” His “Faithful Committed People” (Regardless of RACE… JEW or GENTILE.)

Acts 16:
[31] And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

2 Cor 5:
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

John 17:
[24] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world


God shall “SAVE” His “Faithful people ISRAEL”.

Isa 45:
[17] But Israel shall be saved in the LORDwith an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.


*
The “COMMITMENT”…(of any individual Human ), “IS” by, through, of…
What THAT individual BELIEVES IN THEIR HEART at the moment of their bodily Death.

The all knowing Lord God Almighty searches EVERY Heart, upon a man’s bodily Death…
* God Saves His Faithful ISRAEL.
* Christ Saves His Faithful Any… JEW or GENTILE.

Because SALVATION “IS” “MADE /Given” …ONCE and FOREVER
AFTER a Bodily Death …

1 Cor 15:
[36] Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

Once MADE / Given, It (salvation), Permanent Life ( Saved soul, Born again spirit, ie. Quickening)…
IT IS Permanent, Never Revoked!
Aka, modern acronym … OSAS.

The “UNCOMMITTED”… (Absent Belief in the Lord God , in their heart )…
Shall be Wholly, natural body, natural spirit (hearts truth of unbelief) and soul Destroyed, forgotten).

Warning:
Luke 12:
[5] But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Matt 10:
[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Ecc 9:
[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

True… signifies a Heartful Belief AFTER a bodily Death…and commitment of a persons Heartful Belief…MADE during his mortal Life time.
* IN The LORD God….
…AT physical Death
* IN Christ The Lord…Crucified with Jesus’ Body
…While still mortally Alive.

Glory to God…
Offering Salvation to ALL, who Heartfully Desires to Reach out and TAKE His Offering of glorified Everlasting Life WITH…
The Lord God Almighty.

Praise God,
Taken

The Gifts and Callings of God

Rom 11:29

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

For the gifts and callings of God are without repentance; and that's why for the Fathers sake there is a remnant [ Israel of God] in Israel [ National Israel], again that's why Paul, a benjamite, a hebrew of hebrews , was made to see[converted], and that's why he had a good hope that many more of his jewish brethren would be turned to the Lord, they too being of the foreknown of God and the election of grace, of which the rest were broken off in their unbelief.

Note: When God set aside the National Covenant with Israel as a Nation being the representation of the Kingdom of God on earth as His People, that did not mean He would not still save ethnic Jews by grace.

You see those that were blinded [ Jn 9:39] were made enemies for the gentiles sake, that the elect remnant of them [ see Acts 15:14-16] may be grafted into the Olive Tree, but in regards to the remnant according to the election of grace [in national Israel], they are beloved for the Fathers sake, because the gifts and the callings of God's own eternal purpose of grace [ 2 Tim 1:9] and not race.

For God did not repent of His purpose of Judicial blindness unto the nation of Israel [ Jn 9:39] nor of His purpose and calling of the election of grace of the gentiles for James says:

Acts 15:17-18

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

This blinding of national Israel and introducing of the gentiles into covenant relationship with the elect remnant of the jews, was all of Gods doing .. Matt 21:42

Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? 2

God has not changed towards Israel

For God has not changed His purpose of Grace towards Israel, for He keeps His covenant faithfulness [ in spite of the rejection of Him by the jews of national Israel] He keeps His promise by converting the remnant according to the election of grace. That is Paul's point in Rom 11:2

God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. That means there were Jews in Israel He foreknew in their being chosen in Christ and predestinated to the Image of His Son per Rom 8:28


28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

So God is Faithful in converting the Jews of the nation who are of the election, and He is Faithful in converting the gentiles of the nations who are of the election. And Gods plan entailed breaking off national Israel for the grafting in of the gentiles.

So in reality, it is those who believe in some kinda postponement theory [ jewish fable] that have no understanding of Gods immutability, for they fail to see Gods purpose in national Israel fall [ Matt 21:42-43 ] and the grafting in of the gentiles per Acts 15:17-18


17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world

Notice how this calling of the gentiles is associated with the building up of the tabernacle of David vs

16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

This building again was in a spiritual way. Notice how the terminology of building is used by Paul with the adding of the gentiles to build the temple of God Eph 2:19-22

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;


20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit

We should all know that the temple was built after the pattern of the tabernacle.

So vs 29 of Romans 11 is emphatically stating that the gifts and callings to the remnant Jews, and the remnant gentiles are without repentance by God; for this is evidenced by the everlasting covenant to Israel has not been annulled by the reject and blindness of National Israel in part, because the election [ within the nation] hath obtained the promises of the everlasting covenant along with the elect gentiles in the world, and this was the Mystery, but now being revealed by the Gospel.

Romans 11:32

Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all

This is one of the most misunderstood verses in romans, and the false teachers and followers of antichrist have a field day with it wresting it out of context. This verse is in the context of Paul's exposition of the mystery !

Rom 11:25

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 16:25

Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

Eph 3:3

How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

And how the unbelief of national Israel [ the partial blindness] was ordered by God for the inclusion or grafting in of the gentiles into Covenant Israel.

Now by God doing this, the gentiles [ the church] would now be instrumental of God, to call by the preaching of the gospel, the elect Jews of the nation into fellowship with Jesus Christ, as well as the elect gentiles too .In other words, now that national Israel is cut off, the elect Jews in that nation will come to faith in Christ through the preaching of the church, which would now be mainly gentiles. So God has by succession plans concluded both Jew and gentiles under unbelief, in order to Have mercy upon all, all people groups.

For at first the gentiles for the most part were in unbelief and ignorant to God and the true way of salvation during the OT era but now under the new covenant era the tide has changed, and now the Jews for the most part are under unbelief, and now God has mercy on the remnant Jews through the ministry of the gentiles or church.

This was intimated long ago in this prophecy Isa 61:6

But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

remember back earlier in Rom 11 this statement ? Rom 11:12

Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

The enriching of the gentiles, will fall to the enriching of the elect remnant in national Israel, even though for the most part the many Jews of that nation were blinded.

But the gentile church, would be used of God up until the end, to call out of national Israel a people for His name sake, as He called out of the gentiles a people for his name sake see Acts 15:14.

So thats what Paul means in this verse, in having mercy on all.. He shut down earlier the gentiles in unbelief [ OT ] and under the NT He shut down the Jews in unbelief..and He will have mercy upon each people group, for both groups of people contain a remnant according to the election of grace, which are the vessels of mercy, not of the Jews only but also of the gentiles Rom 9:23-24


23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?3

1 Cor 10:18 Israel after the flesh !

1 Cor 10:18

18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar?

Israel after the flesh makes no sense in saying unless there is a Israel after the Spirit..

Rom 9:6

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 3

That Jesus Christ is a Saviour unto Israel is the scriptural and biblical Gospel.

Paul preached it Acts 13:23

Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

That is, He is a Saviour unto the elect, for what is Israel but another name for Gods Chosen or elect.

Isa 41:8

But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

God hath raised up Jesus to be a Saviour to His Chosen ! 3

A Saviour Raised Unto Israel​

What does Paul mean when he says that God raised up **“a Saviour” unto Israel?

Acts 13:23

“Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:”

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Notice Paul's language: “according to his promise” and “unto Israel a Saviour.”

Jesus Christ was raised up according to God's covenant promise as the Saviour of His people. This is not the language of a Saviour who merely makes salvation possible and then leaves the actual accomplishment of salvation uncertain.

This is perfectly consistent with Matthew 1:21:

“And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.”

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Notice that Christ does not merely attempt to save His people, nor merely provide salvation for them. He shall save His people from their sins.

But who are “His people”?

We should not automatically restrict that expression to every ethnic Jew. The NT gives us a deeper definition of God's saving people.

Paul says in Romans 8:29:

“For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son.”

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The object of God's foreknowledge is persons—“whom.” This is not merely God looking down the corridor of time to discover who would believe. God's foreknowledge here belongs to His sovereign saving purpose: those whom He foreknew, He predestinated to conformity to Christ.

The same covenantal language appears in Romans 11:2:

“God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.”

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God's people are therefore not defined merely by physical descent. They are the people whom God has known beforehand in His special and favorable saving purpose.

And Romans 9:6 gives us the necessary distinction:

“For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”

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This is important when we return to Acts 13:23. Paul says God raised up Jesus “unto Israel a Saviour.” We should therefore understand “Israel” according to the NT's distinction between physical Israel and the Israel of God's saving purpose.

And this saving people ultimately includes believing Gentiles as well as believing Jews. Romans 11 describes believing Gentiles as being grafted into the same olive tree alongside the believing natural branches.

So Acts 13:23 should not be reduced to:

“God raised Jesus to make salvation potentially available to every individual.”

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Paul says something much more definite:

God, according to His promise, raised Jesus as a Saviour unto His people.

And Matthew tells us what that Saviour actually does:

“He shall save his people from their sins.”

That is why I believe Acts 13:23 belongs within the larger biblical testimony of particular redemption. Christ was raised up as an actual Saviour for a definite people, and His saving work actually accomplishes what He came to accomplish.

Paul himself was so certain of the Gospel he preached that he declared:

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
— Galatians 1:8

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So the question is not whether Christ is a Saviour. He absolutely is.

The question is what kind of Saviour Scripture presents Him to be.

Is He merely a Saviour who makes salvation possible for everyone, while the final outcome depends upon the sinner?

Or is He the Saviour whom God promised, who actually saves His people from their sins, giving them the repentance and faith necessary to bring that salvation into their personal experience?

The biblical testimony points to the latter.

God raised unto Israel a Saviour—Jesus Christ. He shall save His people from their sins.

The Biblical Israel AFTER... God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms per 1 Kings 11 means ONLY the ten northern tribes of Israel called the "house of Israel", which were taken captive by the kings of Assyria never to return to the holy land.

The "house of Israel" God scattered into the "wilderness" where He gave them a NEW COVENANT, which is how the prophecy about Ephraim (head of ten tribes) becoming "a multitude of nations" would be fulfilled (Gen.48). That means the WESTERN CHRISTIAN NATIONS, make up of the ten scattered tribes of Israel, and a remnant of believing Jews, and many Gentiles, all as ONE body known as Christ's Church.

The Israel in the holy land nation today ONLY represents the "house of Judah", the ONE TRIBE which God promised He would always leave at Jerusalem for David's sake and for Jerusalem's sake (per 1 Kings 11).

And even the Israel in the holy land, still has FOREIGNERS RULING OVER IT that sit in Moses' seat like Jesus pointed to. They will lead the rest of the unbelieving Jews there to worship the coming false-Messiah that they will setup as king there at Jerusalem, prior to Christ's true coming.

Davy said:

They will lead the rest of the unbelieving Jews there to worship the coming false-messiah

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Along with the majority of "christians" who will also worship the coming false-Messiah especially after the catholics pope guy tells the world the false-messiah was sent by "god"

Dan Clarkston said:

Along with the majority of "christians" who will also worship the coming false-Messiah especially after the catholics pope guy tells the world the false-messiah was sent by "god"

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Won't just be the Roman Church, will also deceive many Protestant Churches as well. Just the fact of so many Protestants here on this forum that are confused by heeding men's doctrines is proof enough of that.

Repentance and Remission of sins is only for Gods elect or Chosen. Acts 5:31

31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

And this Elect Israel is among the Gentiles Acts 11:18

Israel is another way of saying Gods chosen people, His elect.

For any to preach repentance without indicating specifically who it is for as Peter does here, they are not preaching the whole counsel of God, which makes it a false gospel. 3

Davy said:

Won't just be the Roman Church, will also deceive many Protestant Churches as well. Just the fact of so many Protestants here on this forum that are confused by heeding men's doctrines is proof enough of that.

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Yes and due to the ecumenical movement many protestants think the pope is of God and even though they may not follow catholic doctrine, most protestants believe the pope is an authority of the Lord and should be listened to.

Lots of protestant churches are influenced in their doctrine by catholic heresy

brightfame52 said:

Repentance and Remission of sins is only for Gods elect or Chosen. Acts 5:31

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Uh huh and under reformed so called doctrine the "elect" will still go to Heaven whether they repent of their sins or not. This is where osas heresy came from and it's why so many live in sin claiming to be Christians as they go to church regularly, pay tithes, take communion, etc, etc, all while living like the devil

I see people in my area frequently who openly live in sin but are quick to identify themselves as being good "christians"

It's no wonder sinners out in the world don't want anything to do with Jesus... they see people claiming to represent Jesus living like the devil so it's no wonder they think Christianity is a scam

Dan Clarkston said:

Uh huh and under reformed so called doctrine the "elect" will still go to Heaven whether they repent of their sins or not. This is where osas heresy came from and it's why so many live in sin claiming to be Christians as they go to church regularly, pay tithes, take communion, etc, etc, all while living like the devil

I see people in my area frequently who openly live in sin but are quick to identify themselves as being good "christians"

It's no wonder sinners out in the world don't want anything to do with Jesus... they see people claiming to represent Jesus living like the devil so it's no wonder they think Christianity is a scam

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Thing is though, it often takes time for the new babe in Christ to work things out with Lord Jesus, so others might see them still sinning when they actually are trying to work through it with Jesus' help.

Jesus is Israel that saves His Israel !

1 Cor 2:12-13

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

All scripture first and foremost is spiritual truth, inspired by the Living God 2 Tim 3:16

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

This applies to both OT and NT. The Lord Jesus Christ fulfills all scripture, all was centered in Him Lk 24:26-27

26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

Jesus must open our understanding so that we can receive the spiritual meaning of the scriptures, and not just the letter of scripture. Lk 24:44-45


44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

They needed to have a spiritual understanding of the scriptures as how they pertained to Christ, again pointing to what paul meant in 1 Cor 2:13

The Holy Spirit now continues what Christ did, in opening up the understanding of scripture OT and NT to see the Glories of Christ. Jesus said that when He shall come into the world that He shall:

Jn 16:13-14

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

14He shall glorify me:

The bringing into existence of National Israel was a type of Christ !

Christ is and always has been the True Israel of God, National Israel was merely a type.

Lets look at this verse and see how it is spiritually applied to Christ.

Ex 4:22

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

The inspired writer was inspired to write these words because The Nation of Israel was a type liken unto Christ, Gods Firstborn Son

Rom 8:29

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Col 1:15

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

And through Him the True Israel of God will be delivered from bondage and sin, sins servitude Jn 8:32-36

32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

This nation was designated Gods Firstborn only because it was typical and a shadow , a visible likeness of the True Israel of God, Christ. National Israel was also a type of the body of Christ, for the Head and Body are one.

The Nation was termed the firstfruits Jer 2:3a

Israel was holiness unto the LORD, and the firstfruits of his increase:

Because Christ is the Firstfruit [1 Cor 15:23]

The nation was termed Chosen Deut 7:6 because Christ was Chosen Isa 42:1

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

The Nation was called Son Ex 4:22 because Christ is the Son Jn 8:36

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

It is only because of Christ all these designations find realization. And Inheritance into Israel is not by natural birth, but by being born of the seed of Christ Isa 53:10

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

The incorruptible seed of the word of God 1 Pet 1:23

23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

The Inheritance of this Israel is not subject to corruption 1 Pet 1:4

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

This is the Inheritance that Abraham sought after as the Father of the Faithful Heb 11:16

16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

This was fulfilled in Christ, The Israel of God, Gods Firstborn Son !

And all that belong to Christ, belong to The Israel of God Gal 3:29

29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed [Israel], and heirs according to the promise.

Gal 3:16

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed [Israel], which is Christ. 3

And So all Israel shall be saved !


Rom 11:25-26

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

All Israel is saved by God's Mystery plan and purpose, and not according to the natural mind of men.

Israel was saved by God's hardening of non elect jews, from Covenant Israel [ which were ethnic jews who were genuine believers in the messiah] and the grafting in of gentiles believers into Covenant Israel, and in this manner all Israel shall be saved, the Israel of God !

This is confirmed by the mentioning of the gentiles as entering in eiselthein


And what are they entering into ? The Covenant Israel, the Commonwealth of Israel Eph 2:12,19

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

The ethnic jews who were saved !

What Paul is is saying, is that Israel of promise is being saved contrary to what people think, its not by God saving all ethnic jews, but by the breaking off of the unsaved jews, and the grafting in of the saved gentiles into fellowship with the saved jews, is how God planned and purpose to save all Israel. This was a Mystery ! 3