Question regarding once saved, always saved

(J.M.;22712)
So far so good. I asked two questions and received the following answers.Is Jesus Christ God? Yes.Is Christ fully God, equal with the Father? Yes.My next question…Is the will of God the Son in accordance with the will of God the Father and God the Holy Spirit?
Yes! (I Corinthians 11:3, I John 5:7) For God can not disagree with Himself.

The will of the Son was to please the father and in the son the father was pleased

My questions wereJ.M.;22712)
Is Jesus Christ God? Yes.Is Christ fully God, equal with the Father? Yes.Is the will of God the Son in accordance with the will of God the Father and God the Holy Spirit?
Answers given:Yes, Jesus is God.Yes, Jesus is equal with the Father.Yes, God the Son and God the Father are of one will.In John 17 we read, "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine." If any are lost that Christ is praying for then we find descension in the Godhead. The will of God the Father is not in accordance with God the Son. Jesus then isn't equal with God the Father. jm

(J.M.;22801)
My questions wereJ.M.;22712)
Is Jesus Christ God? Yes.Is Christ fully God, equal with the Father? Yes.Is the will of God the Son in accordance with the will of God the Father and God the Holy Spirit?
Answers given:Yes, Jesus is God.Yes, Jesus is equal with the Father.Yes, God the Son and God the Father are of one will.In John 17 we read, "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."If any are lost that Christ is praying for then we find descension in the Godhead. The will of God the Father is not in accordance with God the Son. Jesus then isn't equal with God the Father.Then you are certainly denying scriptures. You must have then belief that the Godhead is a liar. (Especially Yahshua, the Son of God) As Christ died for everyone...He didn't die for some...died for ALL of usJohn 5:23 - That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.John 14:7 - If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.John 14:9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.

(thesuperjag;22804)
Then you are certainly denying scriptures. You must have then belief that the Godhead is a liar. (Especially Yahshua, the Son of God) As Christ died for everyone...He didn't die for some...died for ALL of usJohn 5:23 - That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.John 14:7 - If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.John 14:9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Ahhhh, but you missed the point. If the saints are not finally preserved, kept by God, then it is those who refuse this teaching that deny Christ is equal with the Father.

(J.M.;22801)
My questions were:Answers given:Yes, Jesus is God.Yes, Jesus is equal with the Father.Yes, God the Son and God the Father are of one will.In John 17 we read, "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine." If any are lost that Christ is praying for then we find descension in the Godhead. The will of God the Father is not in accordance with God the Son. Jesus then isn't equal with God the Father. jm
Word games that make no sense do you read the Bible or just follow the men in your religion

(kriss;22940)
Word games that make no sense do you read the Bible or just follow the men in your religion
Do you have an argument to post or do you want to just derail the thread? Is that your argument against what I've posted? Do you read a regular, standard text Bible or just the note riddled work of E. Dubbya?

How can you argue No point I study Gods word and what you have said isnt in Gods word in the context you present it and I dont attend your church or read your Razor fellow

Yes, Jesus is God.Yes, Jesus is equal with the Father.Yes, God the Son and God the Father are of one will.In John 17 we read, "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine."If any are lost that Christ is praying for then we find descension in the Godhead. The will of God the Father is not in accordance with God the Son. Jesus then isn't equal with God the Father.jm

John 17:9 "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which Thou hast given Me; for they are Thine."If you understood John at all you know Jesus is praying for each of those that see and believe that He is the sent one, because He is their advocate before the Father. Jesus became their advocate the moment they saw and believed on Him, and repented to Him of their sins.

Jer 50:6 My people hath been : their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away [on] the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. Where is there resting place ? in Christ our Sabbath Our shepard.Psa 119:176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.What you think he just writes off everyone who gets lost??Luk 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? Luk 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together [his] friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. What do you think he is talking about here livestock????

(kriss;22948)
John 17:9 "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which Thou hast given Me; for they are Thine."If you understood John at all you know Jesus is praying for each of those that see and believe that He is the sent one, because He is their advocate before the Father. Jesus became their advocate the moment they saw and believed on Him, and repented to Him of their sins.
They are given to Christ by the Father: Joh 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.Christ prays for them, not the world:Joh 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.Jer 50:6 My people says it all. They are already God's people.You quote:
Luk 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?Luk 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together [his] friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.What do you think he is talking about here livestock????
Then asked:
What do you think he is talking about here livestock????
John 10 does a great job of explaining further:Joh 10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.Joh 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.Joh 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.Joh 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.Christ died for His sheep, not the world, and they follow Him because they know His voice. Those who believe not are not Christ's sheep and He didn't die for them.They are the elect and no one can remove them from the saving hand of God.

yeah yeah once saved always saved you can follow that doctrine all the way to hellbabies inherit the sin of Adam and are totally depraved and therefore unable to respond to the gospel message of Christ. God had a master list of those who will be saved and those who will go to hell before creation in Gen 1:1. The list is unchangeable. Christ did not die for all men but only those on the "saved list Tell you what you follow John Calvin list above I'll follow God

(kriss;22955)
yeah yeah once saved always saved you can follow that doctrine all the way to hellTell you what you follow John Calvin I'll follow God
I follow God, I'm one of His sheep.

Yeah thats why you think babies are depraved .....You on the master listMat 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.Mar 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

J.M. you will do anything to justify men's doctrine over the Word of God. I'm going to bring back a very, very, old post. I'm very sick and weary of these lies.(thesuperjag)
...the OSAS doctrine is so deceiving and it is made by man. And I don't need a scripture to support this common sense. For ensample, When I accepted Jesus into my heart, I became saved... Now if I turn my back on my Saviour and I became a wiccan (an example) and never want Him again...then I am going to say that I was never truly saved at all...therefore the OSAS doctrine needs to be discarded.
JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.

Ephesians 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, 5 having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, 6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved. "The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth." - Psalm 58:3 "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin my mother conceived me." - Psalm 51:5

This thread is a classic example of why sola-scriptura does NOT work. Each side has their own arsenal of scriptures to back up what they believe. Each side appears to be filled with the Holy Spirit and claims to be guided by Him. Both can't be right - so how do we, followers of Christ know which of you to believe? If I read JM's verses, he makes the most sense. But then when I read thesuperjag's verses, he seems to make the most sense. Is this really how God instructs us? With all of this confusion? It's no wonder non- Christians scratch their heads and say, I just don't get you people - you claim to worship the same God, yet none of you agree on hardly anything.

God said I so loved the world that I gave my only begotten SonSo according to your Calvin philospey Dave thats all a lie he didnt have to do that because he already decided who was saved and who would be evil in the first earth age . According to your doctrine the Bible and all we are told is really a big joke on us because no matter how hard we try Gods already chosen who he wants with him the rest of us are going to hell cause we are not on the master list. yeah thats a real sound doctrine. give me a break.

(Peacebewithyou;22993)
This thread is a classic example of why sola-scriptura does NOT work. Each side has their own arsenal of scriptures to back up what they believe. Each side appears to be filled with the Holy Spirit and claims to be guided by Him. Both can't be right - so how do we, followers of Christ know which of you to believe? If I read JM's verses, he makes the most sense. But then when I read thesuperjag's verses, he seems to make the most sense. Is this really how God instructs us? With all of this confusion? It's no wonder non- Christians scratch their heads and say, I just don't get you people - you claim to worship the same God, yet none of you agree on hardly anything.
Calvanism is not Sola-scripture peacebewithyou look at the chart its mens thoughts not Gods word.Evangelicals, Baptists and Calvinists claim infallible individuals. (Illumination of the Holy Spirit) Not Sola -scripture