The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

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Same post. You posted a lot, but nothing that addressed the first question of my post. It's simply, did John and Jesus resurrect from the dead at the same time because the two prophets do. The two also immediately rise into heaven and I know Jesus didn't do that right away and when he did, John was not rising up with him.
Yes and no.
For anyone to resurrect unto New physical Life, they first must come AFTER Jesus' mortal death and resurrection.
Please see KJV Mat. 27:50-54.
On the same hour of Jesus' death, Jesus who is the resurrection, resurrected MANY of the OC. Saints of faith. John the Baptist would have been among them.
 
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Yes and no.

The answer is no. Nothing about the death, laying in the street, or resurrection and rising into the sky of the two prophets match the deaths and resurrections of John and Jesus and there is no evidence t all that John rose back in the first century. He could have, but only some of the saints resurrected not all. There certainly was not John and Jesus being killed together, both bodies laying in the street for 3.5 days and a simultaneous resurrection and rapture into the heavens.



For anyone to resurrect unto New physical Life, they first must come AFTER Jesus' mortal death and resurrection.
Please see KJV Mat. 27:50-54.
On the same hour of Jesus' death, Jesus who is the resurrection, resurrected MANY of the OC. Saints of faith. John the Baptist would have been among them.

He might have been, maybe not. You are assuming that without any direct evidence. The two prophets are NOT in a grave in Rev 11 so that eliminates John and Jesus.
 

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The answer is no. Nothing about the death, laying in the street, or resurrection and rising into the sky of the two prophets match the deaths and resurrections of John and Jesus and there is no evidence t all that John rose back in the first century. He could have, but only some of the saints resurrected not all. There certainly was not John and Jesus being killed together, both bodies laying in the street for 3.5 days and a simultaneous resurrection and rapture into the heavens.
Those "MANY Saints" that rose from their graves had been waiting to receive "the Promise that was to come". They were OC SAINTS!! KJV Mat. 27:50-54.
Because Jesus had resurrected first, the OC saints, held in "Remembrance" by God (Malachi 3:16-18), had just received their "white robes" (the Holy Spirit) to be resurrected into New Life. Rev. 6:9-11.


John the Baptist physically died among the OC Saints, but he himself "never died" spiritually, because HE WAS BORN HAVING The Holy Spirit already.
Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink;
and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
He might have been, maybe not. You are assuming that without any direct evidence. The two prophets are NOT in a grave in Rev 11 so that eliminates John and Jesus.
Both John and Jesus were the ONLY people in all the world ever, to be physically born having the Holy Spirit permanently dwelling within them before birth.
Spiritually, they never died.
No one can "suffer"(cause, keep) an eternally living, Immortal person to be buried or be kept in a grave.
This is a past event, and is NOT prophesied to take place again in the future!! In other words, it can never be fulfilled again!

They are "God's Two anointed ones".
John the Baptist and Jesus, are the fulfillment of Zech. 3:8-10, 4:11-14, as spiritually spoken of in allegorical and metaphorical language in Rev. 11:3-13, as being "
God's Two witnesses".

Listen to the words:
Rev. 11:9 "And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations [of those visiting Jerusalem during Passover]..........shall not suffer [cause, keep] their dead bodies to be put in graves."
Three days later, early Sunday morning, Jesus' body was not to be found in the tomb. Jesus was WALKING** around, and continued to so for 40 days, until He ascended into heaven.
And so it would be also, for those who were the many OC Saints that arose from their graves, of which John the Baptist would've been among them.
Mat. 27:53 And [they] came out of the graves after his resurrection, and WENT into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Yes indeed, the resurrected OC Saints were also WALKING** around.

So then, the conclusion of it all is wrapped up in the following report by the Roman centurion : Mat. 27:54 says this: Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus [while on the cross], saw the earthquake, and those THINGS that were done [the veil of the temple was torn in two, and many OC.Saints rising from their graves] they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

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Hmmm....the words: "they feared greatly" is another nugget of prophetic words fulfilled. It is found in Rev. 11:11 And after three days and an half [symbolic for 3.5 yrs.of their joint ministry] the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. [The exact testimony of the centurion, etc. Mat. 27:54]

By the way, did you know that the period of "three days and an half", is symbolic for the Joint ministry of John the Baptist and Jesus for 3.5 years? John for 6 months, and Jesus for 3.0 years. It is scripturally known as the 1260 days.
Rev. 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and THEY shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore [1260] days, aka 3.5 years, clothed in sackcloth.

Now please pay attention to this in light of
Rev. 12:6 And the woman [the beginning NC. church of 12 Disciples] fled into the wilderness [Mt. of Olives- Luke 21:37], where she hath a place prepared of God, that  THEY [the teachings of the two witnesses] should feed [nourish] her there a thousand two hundred and threescore [1260] days, aka 3.5 years.
See also Rev. 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness [Mt. Olive], into her place, where she is nourished ["fed"] for a time, and times, and half a time [3.5 yrs.], from the face of the serpent.


It's interesting to notice, that the time period of 1260 days is applied to the Two Witnesses, and also to the NC woman [the beginning church of I2 disciples], who were "nourished" through the teachings of the Two Witnesses.

**NOTE:
In the above, please notice my word choice of "WALKING".
That will be a God inspired replacement word for a false italicized "word insertion", that was inserted by the translators of the KJV Bible from the Textus Receptus Greek Text.

By the way, for reasons of translation, a "word insertion" into a biblical text is not anything but a helpful support using word associations with the surrounding context.
However, some choices can be terribly wrong, due to not understanding the spiritual value it should be addressing.

I will be dropping that factual biblical Bomb here in the very near future. I will subtitle it as "Word Insertion".

Remember, this will be a suggested word change for a humanly made insertion, that is already in the English of the KJV. The literal biblical text, as translated from the TR-Greek, shall remain untouched.
 
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He might have been, maybe not. You are assuming that without any direct evidence. The two prophets are NOT in a grave in Rev 11 so that eliminates John and Jesus.
You are not understanding the reality and purpose of the book of Revelation. It is not a chronological book about the far future only. It is simply God the Father Himself in His Eternity (Rev. 1:1 since 96 AD), speaking in the past, present and future, all at the SAME time. Isa. 55:8-9. Much of His "thoughts and ways" are allegorical, metaphoric and symbolic. Even when He did speak through the OC prophets, hardly any of it was to be interpreted literally. We are not to think that we can understand God according to our shallow linear thinking. "We have the mind of Christ", and we are to use it!!
 
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