Cessationism (the notion that the miraculous gifts of the Spirit "went away with the death of the Apostles")

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Reread it.
I put it as a hypothetical.
But of course you did not catch that did you?

Does it matter?
Remember, your god never does those things.

You should rest in the fact that your deal is safe.
It is true that your god does not raise the dead.
Paul taught those 'gifts' would cease which was supported by him not being able to heal Timothy

Some people today claim they have the healing gifts of the NT Apostles yet are unable to prove it

eg your 200 raised from the 'dead' yet they weren't actually Acts 9.40 dead
 

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You made the claim and proof was the request which you are unable to provide
Conc :- all talk, no substance
I know if nobody personally raised from the dead.
I was also not there at your supposed conversion.
Maybe it didn't happen?
You got a video of it?
 

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Paul taught those 'gifts' would cease which was supported by him not being able to heal Timothy

Some people today claim they have the healing gifts of the NT Apostles yet are unable to prove it

eg your 200 raised from the 'dead' yet they weren't actually Acts 9.40 dead
Yes they will.
Reread it.
He put "Knowledge" in there with gifts.
So your knowledge also ceased ?
Our did Knowledge cease with gifts?

You need a lot of study.
Paul is saying those things are not needed in heaven.
That is when they "cease"
 

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Yes they will.
Reread it.
He put "Knowledge" in there with gifts.
So your knowledge also ceased ?
Our did Knowledge cease with gifts?

You need a lot of study.
Paul is saying those things are not needed in heaven.
That is when they "cease"
Again list just one VERFIABLE case today where a 'gifter' has raised the dead as Peter did in Acts 9.40
Can you do that ? Obviously not.
Conc :- that 'gift' has ceased as Paul taught it would
 

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Keep looking.
There was one that said mother Teresa was into child trafficking.

Maybe you and your religion can also Accuse Billy Graham.
Dig real hard.
It will be so satisfying to you to accuse more brothers.
You are easily conned 454 and a waste of time, bye
 
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Again list just one VERFIABLE case today where a 'gifter' has raised the dead as Peter did in Acts 9.40
Can you do that ? Obviously not.
Conc :- that 'gift' has ceased as Paul taught it would
I have never personally seen the dead raised.
I have personally cast out 2 demons and laid hands on the sick and seen healing.

I prayed for my blue healer that had Cushing disease.
It is incurable.
She was INSTANTLY healed after over a month of praying.
It took my breath away.
I prayed for a woman that had stage 4 cancer and she fully recovered.
When hurricane Ivan hit Florida, i walked into my backyard in full hurricane force winds and rebuked the storm. We had THE ONLY HOUSE ON THE STREET with no damage.
The fema guy came and asked to be shown the damage. He could not believe my house had no damage.

Your god could never do any of that.

My God is huge and powerful
 
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Again list just one VERFIABLE case today where a 'gifter' has raised the dead as Peter did in Acts 9.40
Can you do that ? Obviously not.
Conc :- that 'gift' has ceased as Paul taught it would
We know you believe your god can not.
You are demonstrating it over and over.
 
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Again list just one VERFIABLE case today where a 'gifter' has raised the dead as Peter did in Acts 9.40
Can you do that ? Obviously not.
Conc :- that 'gift' has ceased as Paul taught it would
I asked you if knowledge ceased with the gifts.

You changed the subject

But it could be that certain groups aligning with the testimony of a weak god, are indeed lacking knowledge.

So yes, knowledge has obviously ceased for them....... right alongside Gods power.

Good point.
 

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Gee Wally.
I know it's true coz I seen it on YouTube!
That conference was in Florida.
Around 1997 or so.
I was there buckwheat.

You are off on every item so far.
The worst would be your framing of a powerless God.

That is so sad.
 
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Then list the verified 10 occasions where a 'gifter' today has raised the dead as Peter did in Acts 9:40
Room temperature dead for over 2 day :)
Not even the apostles attributed to themselves the power to do miracles.
The glory always went to God.

So you have that wrong also.
 

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Please supply the WWW links that shows your 10 verified cases of a 'gifter' raising a dead for more than 2 days at room temperature person as Peter did in Acts 9.40
Isnt that what Judas said ?
Show me a sign?
 
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What is sad is that there are folks that have to see a sign to believe.

A powerful deception is coming to this earth.

Christians are going to see fake AI mess and think it is real.

Cessationists that are seeking a sign, will be unable to discern the real from fake, because they gave up the gifts.

Ahem...the GIFT of discernment.
Ooooops.

( remember the cessationist rejects the gift of discernment)
 
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