Question for those who have just said NO to Church:

(whirlwind;22831)
(peacebewithyou;22820)
That's true - Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the World.But only celebrating Passover would feel like walking out of a good movie before the big climax. Celebrating the Ressurection is like rubbing it in Satan's face & all who chose not to believe. It's one thing that He died for our sins - that is awesome - but He is not dead - He is RISEN! It's our proof of the promise that altough we die, will will rise again.I can't imagine why someone wouldn't want to celebrate - shout that from the rooftops. He isn't dead - He is risen! He is risen indeed!I think Satan must hate that constant reminder of Jesus' victory over death that Easter brings.
understand what you are saying but there is so much about easter that is an abomination to God. It was taken from Ishtar, as stated in a previous post, and is about fertility rites. Sexual orgies on the altar. Research Ishtar and learn about her son Tammuz. To lightly touch on the subject, Tammuz was killed by a wild boar (ham [unclean food] on Easter,) people were to give up their happiness for 40 days (Lent,).....it goes on and on. Perhaps it is best to allow Father to tell you Himself: Ezekiel 8:14 Then He brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD's house which was toward the north; and behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.15.Then said He unto me, "Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these."16.And He brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.18.Therefore will I also deal in fury: Mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in Mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them." Easter sun-rise service (sun worship) in the very house of God - an abomination. To make matters even worse, if that is possible, it is held on Sunday - not the Sabbath! He set all the times for all His events long, long ago. When Abraham took Isaac onto the mountain to sacrifice him...it was the same mountain on which His Son was crucified. Isaac was a shadow of what was to come. When the death angel passed over the children of God it was a shadow of what was to come.....Christ was to be the Passover Lamb on the High Sabbath, Passover....not easter Sunday. ........WhirlwindThanks for the addition information whirlwind. I appreciate that. Praise Yahshua, to the glory of YHWH.(kriss;22837)
We must have been posting at the same time Peace mine is above yours. So Ill repeat the important part But God never told us to celebrate his Resurrection. It was his death on the cross that overcame , the shedding of his Blood as the ultimate sacrifice. I think he would never want us to lose sight of that with making the resurrection a holiday.
Kriss, I agree with you too...especially the Rapture doctrine. Men will compromise the Word in a second like you said and it's all about money and fast food religion. (your unedited post)No person will tell me to celebrate Easter. What God hates. I hate it too. (Although we won't know everything)Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.

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We must have been posting at the same time Peace mine is above yours. So Ill repeat the important part But God never told us to celebrate his Resurrection. It was his death on the cross that overcame , the shedding of his Blood as the ultimate sacrifice. I think he would never want us to lose sight of that with making the resurrection a holiday.
Hi Kriss,If the dying on the cross and shedding of his blood was so important (and I agree with this, by the way), why don't Protestant churches have crucifixes in them? Not an accusation, just simply curious.

Protestant churches are just as mislead and full of mens lies as Catholic churches goldyeven though it started in Rome your church is not the only guilty one here. I know it seems sometimes we pick on Catholics but Protestants are no better in alot of their practices thats why God has no denominations in his Word.

Hi Peacebewithyou,
Now you've got me curious.. do you consider yourself a prophet, or were just giving that example of scripture?
Just giving an example of scripture as in applying to my situation... not applying it to calling myself a prophet.

Hi kriss,
Protestant churches are just as mislead and full of mens lies as Catholic churches goldy even though it started in Rome your church is not the only guilty one here. I know it seems sometimes we pick on Catholics but Protestants are no better in alot of their practices thats why God has no denominations in his Word.
I agree that Protestant churches are misled now as any other church. Jesus spoke of how bad it will be in the latter days before judgment falls on the House of God at the rapture event (Matthew 7:13-27 & Luke 13:24-30.) I find it curious that the judgment in Jeremiah are similar to Revelations as Jesus described the conditions in the churches before the marriage supper are similar to Jeremiahs' pre-conditiond for judgment. Jeremiah 50: 6My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. 7All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.With churches placing emphasis on man or the Spirit, it is no wonder that they all have been led away from their restingplace in Christ Jesus.Even Isaiah 5 foreshadows how the Pentecostal heresey of preaching another baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of tongues are like wild grapes in the vineyard. There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit as promised for all those that come to Jesus.I may speak of the rapture, but it is in warning as by the grace of God, I expose the works of darkness by the scriptures so that they may repent with God's help and be found abiding in Him when He appears since the call is to be always ready, yes?

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Hi kriss,I agree that Protestant churches are misled now as any other church. Jesus spoke of how bad it will be in the latter days before judgment falls on the House of God at the rapture event (Matthew 7:13-27 & Luke 13:24-30.) I find it curious that the judgment in Jeremiah are similar to Revelations as Jesus described the conditions in the churches before the marriage supper are similar to Jeremiahs' pre-conditiond for judgment. Jeremiah 50: 6My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. 7All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.With churches placing emphasis on man or the Spirit, it is no wonder that they all have been led away from their restingplace in Christ Jesus.Even Isaiah 5 foreshadows how the Pentecostal heresey of preaching another baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of tongues are like wild grapes in the vineyard. There is only one baptism of the Holy Spirit as promised for all those that come to Jesus.I may speak of the rapture, but it is in warning as by the grace of God, I expose the works of darkness by the scriptures so that they may repent with God's help and be found abiding in Him when He appears since the call is to be always ready, yes?
I agree with you Pariah 100%. I also notice that churches seems to can't read the bible straight at all....which is extremely sad.JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.

As A new christian I want to learn all I can about my Loving god and I read the bible faithfully and work hard at understanding what is said. I also go to a church I enjoy being a part of. My problem is who do I belive when I have a question pertaining to scripture? How can I trust what I am told? I believe everything I read in the bible, but I can get two diffrent answers from people when I try to ask a question? Can I trust what I am being taught in church?My husband says that you don't have to got o church to worship God.

Hi lorenski44.Your husband is correct. You do not have to go to church to worship God.John 4: 19The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. 25The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. 26Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. Now you know Who to go to in order to learn and to understand the Bible. Jesus.John 5: 39Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.Hebrews 4: 12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.Proverbs 2: 6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.Trust Jesus to do that.Use the King James Bible. It is translated from the Received Text. Other bible versions are untrustworthy as they changes the wordings to get their copyrights to them, plus they have been transcribed from the Alexandrian files where they took liberty and poetic license with God's words in copying. We know this because that is where the gnostics writings came from. So that is why it is best to stick with the KJV and lean on the Lord to help you understand His sayings. He wants a relationship with you so.. trust Him.

I would very much agree with Parish here lorenski44

Thank You for your answers. I will get a King James Version. I realy didn't know there was so much diffrence in bibles. I have a life application NLT Version but I guess one can have more then one bible.

There are many commands in the Bible, including the one to go to church.There are commands like 1 Timothy 6:8 "And having food and raiment let us be therewith content" and Ephesians 4:26 "let not the sun go down upon your wrath" etc. I think we all try to do what the Bible says. But sometimes circumstances and sheer human weakness, ignorance etc. prevent us from attaining the ideal, which is go to church, be content, don't let anger prevail etc.We all tend to judge others from the point of view of our strong suite. A churchgoer will point out the fact that another is not going to church, and the other may point back that you are not doing so-and-so depending on what this person prides himself on.

Peacebewithyou God says where two or more gather together in my name they are in church.If you want to put your church building above God thats your choice but here we we follow scripture and Gods says church is anywhere his believers are in fact Jesus tipped over the money tables in the churches and todays churchs are a buisness they are all about money. thats not to say all are good or bad but they are not nessesary to worship God to limit God to a building or religious denomination is ridicoulous

I'll answer about Easter. Yes the name Easter is from a pagan goddess of fertility, Ishtar, Eostre depending on their country of worship. Passover is our high sabbath but the traditions of men have changed this over the years. The church changed the name of Christ's resurrection to Easter to attract more people from pagan religions.The word easter is not in the original manuscripts. You can check this out yourself with the Strong's concordance. In the KJV, Acts 12:4 Easter was a misstranslated. It should read pascha or paschal which means passover.Also Christ became our Passover in 1 Cor 5:7,8.So instead of having Easter bunnies representing orgies/fertility in the high places in worship to the goddess of fertility in our churches, we need to get back to our true high sabbath as written in the Bible and worship our GOD and savior by taking communion on that day, which doesn't nessarily fall on a weekly sabbath day. Since we are children of the light, we start with the spring equinox, count 14 days and at sundown of the 14th day, which is actually the beginning of the 15th day, we begin Passover. This is all stated in Duet 16.Hope this helps!

My wife and I have attended a couple of churches and I have done some work for 2 churches and all of them to me seemed more worried about activities & dinners more than spreading the word.I've seen church members talk about how people were dressed or just bluntly say they don't like someone.They treat new people to the church as outsiders.I've seen people come in looking for help to be turned away.One time a man came in this church I worked at and simply asked if he could use the restroom one woman said we dont usually allow the public in for that.Something as simple as using the restroom this guy looked to be poor his clothes were dirty and holely and all i could think about was heb 13:2.My family sit and pray and shares the scripture we help those who are less fortunate when we can.I know people that don't go to church and they have more faith in God than a church member.I beleive wherever you are and praise & share Gods word that is a church.I'm not saying all churches are like the ones I've seen but to me most churches are more like a country club.

Saying no to church is saying no to God...going to church is a huge part of our never ending growth in our walk to become closer to Christ

Hi superjag,I agree with you in your Reply here.That's my position, since I have not been able to find a church in my area that teaches the whole counsel of God.The Internet has supplied me wih the opportunity to listen every morning to three excellent preachers. I support their ministries and buy their books, CDs, and DVDs. That experience has been a real blessing from God for me.And now I've found this Message Board which I really love. I read the Posts and Replies and add my own, and there is a good spirit of believers here.waynemlj