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I've noticed a trend toward the false teaching of open theism on this forum so I thought I'd post a link that deals with the common scriptures used by these false teachers to promote the modern doctrine. Below you'll see a list of scripture, the link is in the title, hope it helps.Scriptures ExaminedGen. 6:6, "And the Lord was sorry He had made man on the earth..."Gen. 22:12, "For now I know that you fear God..."Exod. 4:9, "...if they will not believe..." Exod. 13:17, "...Lest the people change their minds..."Exod. 16:4, "to test them, whether or not they will walk in My instruction."Exod. 32:14, "...the Lord changed His mind..."Num. 14:11, "How long will this people spurn Me?"Deut. 8:2, God tests people to know what is in their heartsDeut. 9:13-14, "Let Me alone that I may destroy them" Deut. 9:18-20, "but the Lord listened to me that time also"Deut. 13:1-3, "God is testing you to find out if you love the Lord"1 Sam. 2:29-30, "...I did indeed say...but now the Lord declares..."1 Sam. 15:10, 35, "I regret that I have made Saul king..."1 Kings 22:20, How will you entice Ahab?***** 2 Kings 20:1-6, "You shall die and not live...I will add 15 years to your life."1 Chron. 21:15, "...the Lord saw and was sorry over the calamity..."2 Chron. 32:31, God tested him to know what was in his heartJudges 2:22, to test them to see if they will keep the way of the LordIsaiah 5:3-7, God expected good grapes and it produced worthless onesJer. 3:6, I thought she would return but she did notJer. 3:19-20, "...so you have dealt treacherously with Me..."Jer. 7:31, "...it did not come into My mind."Jer. 18:7-11, "I will relent concerning the calamity I planed to bring"Jer. 19:5, "...it did not come into My mind."Jer. 26:3, Perhaps they will listen and turn from their evil wayJer. 26:19, The Lord changed His mindJer. 32:35, "nor had it entered My mind that they would do this."Jer. 38:1718, 20, If you listen to God you will live. If not, you will dieEzek. 12:13, Perhaps they will understand though they are rebelliousEzek. 20:22-23, "I resolved to pour out My wrath..but I withdrew My hand."Ezek. 22:3031, "I searched for a man who should build up the wall..."Ezek. 33:13-15, God changes His mind about death and lifeHosea 8:5, "How long will they be incapable of innocence?"Joel 2:13-14, "Who knows whether He will not turn and relent?"Amos 7:16, "The Lord changed His mind about this."Jonah 1:2; 3:2; 4:2, God relents concerning calamity_______________PS: I notice that 2 Kings is one of the most used text by an open theist, here's a proper understanding of the passage which takes into consideration all of scripture as it's context.
Interpretation of 2 Kings 20:1-11 and Jonah 3 - 4/2The case of Hezekiah's sickness in 2 Kings 20 is supplemented by the parallel passages in 2 Chronicles 32:24-26 and Isaiah 38:1-22. These passages reveal that by the 14th year of his reign, Hezekiah yielded to pride in spite of God's goodness to him and to Judah, protecting them from the disaster that befell Samaria through the Assyrian conquest. To deal with this defect, God announced to Hezekiah that if he continued in his self-sufficiency, his life was at an end, for no human power could overcome his deadly terminal disease. Only by a miracle could his life be continued. So Hezekiah "repented of the pride of his heart" (2 Chron. 32:26) and God graciously extended his life by 15 years: "I will heal you" (2 Kings 20:5) He said and the rest of the passage deals with the confirmation of God's miraculous power that would apply both to Hezekiah's personal life and to the protection of Judah from Assyrian attacks (2 Kings 20:6; Isaiah 38:6). This is articulated very clearly in Hezekiah's song recorded for us in Isaiah 38:10-20. That this whole process does not reflect a change of mind on God's part is manifest from the fact that in that same fourteenth year of Hezekiah's reign, God had promised him at least three more years of life (2 Kings 9:29) and that the birth of his son Manasseh, necessary for the fulfillment of God's promise to David ( 2 Sam. 1:12-16), also took place 3 years later in the seventeenth year of his reign (2 Kings 21:1).The case of Jonah's prophecy is even clearer for the Ninevites understood well that Jonah's announcement did not mean "whatever you do, I have determined to obliterate you within forty days" but rather "forty more days of your rebellious conduct and I will "let you have it!" The Ninevites, led by their king, responded in due repentance and abandonment of "their evil ways and violence" (Jonah 3:8). They rightly used the 40 days' reprieve as a time of humiliation and renewal. Thus they gained another reprieve of some 150 years!! It is noteworthy that Jonah himself had anticipated this development (Jonah 4:2) and that is why he wanted to flee to Tarshish, being eager to see the discomfiture of Israel's enemy rather than their continued existence. From beginning to the end God's purpose was the same, to wit a moral renewal in Nineveh!When such a sounder interpretation of the texts is acknowledged, the validity of claiming these cases as documenting a change of mind on God's part has vanished. If this is acknowledged, not only is their proof against God's fixity of purpose lost, but in the process their construction of the word Nicham as implying such a change is jeopardized. (Found 100 times in the Hebrew, it is translated as repent only 45 times in KJV. The translation "change one's mind" found 16 times with reference to God in NAB and NRSV is probably wrong, although 7 of these state that God "does not change his mind" Num. 23:19; 1 Sam. 15:29 (twice), Ps. 110:4; Jer. 4:28; 20:16; Ezek. 24:14).
 

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Interesting, not a trend I'd noticed. This place get's its daily helping of false teachings in the form of traditions of men - particularly one worldism, but I don't really see that as much of an issue here regardless of what it's called.