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Interesting - how so?lforrest said:My observation is that their religion is selfish.
I found RANDOR's definition insurpassable. He's doing a Bible reading now, he'll be back,Martin W. said:I would also like to hear the definition of .... "on fire for the Lord"
I hear it used often , but when I ask for a definition it never comes
It simply means being filled with the Holy Spirit, something we must be willing to do daily. The Holy Spirit is symbolized by fire and this imagery can be seen at Pentecost, and in Revelation describing the golden lamp stands. And I'm sure if I spent some time on it, I could list other examples of this distinct icon. Being filled with the Holy Ghost, one is zealous for the Lord, preaching the gospel and living a life before others of joy, peace, and godliness. I think it's a great phrase to describe the kind of enthusiasm and ebullience that all Christians should strive for.Martin W. said:I would also like to hear the definition of .... "on fire for the Lord"
I hear it used often , but when I ask for a definition it never comes
Like Ol Jack above mentioned, there are the 1 hour a week Christians who are too selfish to give any more of themselves to God than that 1 hour. These are the same ones that make themselves out to be religious, and to adhere to biblical principles. They get divorced, practice adultery, say worldly things with their lips, and yet then condemn others for the same immoral behavior. These hypocrites give Christians a bad name.lforrest said:My observation is that their religion is selfish.
Truelforrest said:Like Ol Jack above mentioned, there are the 1 hour a week Christians who are too selfish to give any more of themselves to God than that 1 hour. These are the same ones that make themselves out to be religious, and to adhere to biblical principles. They get divorced, practice adultery, say worldly things with their lips, and yet then condemn others for the same immoral behavior. These hypocrites give Christians a bad name.
That's right. They are not interested in knowing the full council of God. I'd wager they all have bibles but have never read even a quarter of it.Mr.Bride said:True
Religious hypocrites... Selfish.. A true reproach to the Kingdom of God. Unbelievers and make-believers who don't really have the love of God in their hearts. They could say they live God but the world's influence would snatch them without resistance. The true Word they reject.
Should we not make their spiritual well-being our business? What is the purpose of the assembly of believers if not this?Martin W. said:.Just because some of them look and act "lukewarm" is none of our business , and most likely we do not know their true lives behind the scenes , it could be exemplary for all we know.
Let me put it in more abrupt terms ....lforrest said:Should we not make their spiritual well-being our business? What is the purpose of the assembly of believers if not this?
It is not our place to rule over a fellow believer, because they belong to Jesus. Yet the one who loves the truth will repent of all sin and draw nearer to God. Would any one of them complain on the day of the Lord if your rebuke resulted in a better testimony? Why do you think fools scorn rebuke, isn't it because you further seal their condemnation?
Church discipline and encouragement is necessary, not everyone can carry their own cross alone.
I agree that it's all about the attitude that comes across. There's nothing wrong with being excited for Jesus and living a life full of worship, Bible reading, fellowship, and evangelism. And I have no doubt that such zeal is from the Holy Spirit. But when the "I'm better than you" attitude is on display as well, it comes off as a stench that isn't inspired by the Holy Spirit, for God opposes a prideful heart.Martin W. said:Let me put it in more abrupt terms ....
A lot of good and decent Christians turn a cold shoulder to some of the showmanship and theater of some charismatics , they not to wish to have association with them for their own personal reasons
Thus the charismatics mistaken the cold shoulder response and end up labeling them as ... "lukewarm" ... or not "on fire" for the Lord
In other words , many of the "full of Holy Spirit" group appear to be mostly "Full of themselves" .... and continually let it be known that they alone are the best
Don't believe me ?
Just ask them