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[SIZE=12pt]Why the Christian needs to evangelize?[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12pt]A Prophecy whilst writing this teaching: “Share the gospel with the people you meet”[/SIZE]



[SIZE=12pt]Why should I evangelize ?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE]People are going to hell and the lake of fire unless you save them:

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them. (John 3:36)

Anyone whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Rev 20:15)

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE]You are given the commission to share the gospel:

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you…” (Matthew 28:18-20)

Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,” does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?

(Proverbs 24:11,12)

How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? (Romans 10:14)

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE]You will be held accountable for the souls you didn’t save.

When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die, ’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood. But if you do warn the wicked person and they do not turn from their wickedness or from their evil ways, they will die for their sin; but you will have saved yourself. (Ezekiel 3:18-19)

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE]It is mercy to evangelize.

Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. Matthew 5:7

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE]You should have a zeal to save them.

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
(Matthew 11:12)

Woe is me if I do not preach the gospel! (1 Cor 9:16)

The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life, and he who wins souls is wise. (Proverbs 11:30)

[SIZE=12pt]How urgent is it to evangelize?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]If a person was drowning because they couldn’t swim, and you were on a boat and had a lifesaver to throw at them, what would you do? Would you throw a lifesaver to them to save them or would you let them drown?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Ask yourself how much more urgent is saving people from the eternal lake of fire?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Isn’t Evangelism just for those with the calling?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The word of God tells us that there are those called to be evangelists (Ephesians 4:11) as they have a [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]a specialized calling with a certain gift , understanding and anointing to evangelize regularly to many people.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]However this does not nullify the fact that all Christians are called and required to evangelize and to be as effective as they can be with the measure they have been given (see Romans 12:6). [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]It’s like the difference between people praying and the gift of intercession, all people are required to pray, yet intercessors have a unique gifting.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Should I wait for my pastor to Evangelize?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Under no circumstances ever let your pastor teach you to ‘wait for the church’.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Understand that people are dying and going to hell everyday therefore it doesn’t make sense to wait for the church. The Lord’s command takes priority over your pastor’s command. [/SIZE]

I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin.[SIZE=10.5pt] I did not receive it from any human source, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. (Galatains 1:11,12)[/SIZE]

Just as Paul received instruction from God, so the saints have received instructions from God to warn the lost, and to save them. Christians do not need the pastors permission to obey Jesus Christ or the Word of God ! Obedience to the Pastors (instead of to God) for the sake of ‘the word of God’ is heresy, and a violation of the commandments of Jesus Christ found in the Gospels.

Why do you call Me, Lord, Lord, and do not do [practice] what I tell you? (Luke 6:46)

Do to others as you would have them do to you. (Luke 6:31)

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations. (Matthew 28:18)

[SIZE=10.5pt]This is the Lords commission to the saints, not the pastors. If you fail to evangelize it’s like failing to show mercy, or failing to forgive – would you ask your pastor for permission to show mercy ?[/SIZE]

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure. (Philippians 2:12)

This is a prophecy A Christian received Sept 11 1994:

My Yoke: Dependence Upon Me
Whatever steals your dependence upon ME is evil.
Anything that is raised up and places itself in MY place is evil.
Anything that places itself in MY place is evil.
Anything that steals your dependence on ME is EVIL.
Anything that places itself as a necessary covering or steals your dependence upon Me is a deception from the Evil One.
My Yoke is easy, for My Yoke is only this: Dependence Upon ME. Dependence upon Me is the only yoke you need.
All other yokes are bondage from the enemy.
Turn and repent from these yokes that you have picked up.
Turn and repent from the Evil. Am I the Lord of your life? AM I?
Not unless you have shed those yokes of bondage that you have been carrying.
I am revealing these Yokes of Bondage... for apart from Me all is evil.
Take up My Yoke for it is easy. Have Faith that I am all that you need.

[SIZE=10.5pt]There shall be an accounting for those pastors who refuse to let the sheep share the gospel. People are going to hell. If you evangelize, then you are obeying the calling of God for your life.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]‘I am saved by grace, Evangelism is works’[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Christians are saved, made born-again through the cross, by grace they are saved – so that they can do the works of God. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Once they are saved, they keep their right-standing with God by being obedient (holiness). Obedience to God is keeping the Lords commands – which is walking in the fruit of the Holy Spirit, forgiveness, showing mercy to others, etc. These are the works of God. (see 1 John 1:6,7, Mat 7:21-23) [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The work of God is priority over everything else in your life, and should never be confused with the works of the flesh, which are useless for the Kingdom. The Lord does require His people to obey, and to work for the Kingdom, just like the early Christians.[/SIZE]

Evangelism is not about works, it’s about your commitment to God to honor the Word of God, and to show mercy to others – it’s about a holy and righteous duty. Every Christian should say as Paul said: “Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!” (1 Cor 9:16)

[SIZE=12pt]When should I evangelize?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]As a Christian, evangelism should be a regular and normal part of your routine. If you are not always seeking to save people from the lake of fire – then this shows there is something wrong with your understanding of God’s plans and what He requires from you.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]God has given you a commission to show the love of God to the world by effectively sharing the Gospel with them – failure to do so, whether through intercession or witnessing means you are deficient in the wisdom of the Lord, and are walking in disobedience to the commands of the Lord.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]‘Why should I care - so people don’t get saved, so what?’[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Many Christians are actually blinded to the reality of hell.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Please understand that the eternal judgment of fire comprises of two places: Hades, The Lake of Fire[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]When a person who isn’t saved leaves this life – they go to Hades, where they are tortured indescribably (see Luke 16:19-26), whilst they are waiting for the final judgment.[/SIZE]

“The rich man also died and was buried.[SIZE=10.5pt] In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.[/SIZE] So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ (Luke 16:22-26)
Jewish tradition / prophecy shows that Hades / Abrahams Bosom were the same place, separated by a chasm, in the center of the earth. The Jews referred to Paradise as Abrahams Bosom, the place of the righteous. After the resurrection of Christ, Abrahams Bosom was removed from the Earth to Heaven, this was because everyone from the Old Covenant still had to be saved through Christ before going to Heaven. This is why Abraham could speak to and see those in Hades / Hell, and it is also why Jesus said to the thief on the Cross ‘Today you shall be with Me in Paradise’.

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]After a long time in Hades, they are then brought before the throne of God where they have to give account for their lives.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]· [/SIZE][SIZE=10.5pt]After this they are thrown in a real lake of fire and brimstone, where they shall be for all eternity ![/SIZE]

But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.[SIZE=10.5pt] The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done.[/SIZE] Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:13-15)

[SIZE=10.5pt]Those who don’t care about the people going to hell and the lake of fire are in disobedience, and are not of the kingdom.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Whilst writing this the Lord gave me this prophecy: “Pray that my people are brought to maturity through this teaching.”[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]God requires maturity from His people, which is only accomplished through reading, and then enquiring to God about – the Word of Truth.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The Lord showed me that His people haven’t learned to enquire of God – as they should - about the Word of God, so as to receive true light and revelation from the Holy Spirit, so causing them to have a Christlike zeal for the kingdom of God.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The Lord also gave me two more prophecies for the saints whilst writing this teachings:[/SIZE]

Prophecy 2: [SIZE=10.5pt]Whilst praying about the problems with leadership control and the plan of God for His people to be brought to maturity, the Lord showed me this to summarize the whole problem with today’s mainstream church:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]“There is no repentance”[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]They obey God only within the limitations of their boundaries.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]They have a heart to obey God, but do not follow the instructions of the Lord. The requirements of repentance are to obey[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]and to seek to obey the commandments of the Lord. [/SIZE]

Prophecy 3: [SIZE=10.5pt]The Kingdom of God is caring[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Do you care about the plans of God being accomplished in your life.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Do you care about these plans being brought to fruition.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Do you care about the plan of God for your life to bring you to maturity.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]For if you do not care about these things, neither shall you see the salvation God has promised to His people.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]For God has brought you out of the world into the glorious kingdom of Christ.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]So shall it be that whoever denies Me before others, I shall also deny before My Father who is the Lord Eternal and full of glory.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Who are you to oppose My commandments, for what I taught others I shall teach you.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]I’ll evangelize some other time[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Oftentimes the things you prioritize in this life are made null the day you die and are of no eternal value. This means that the things of eternal value should take priority over everything else. [/SIZE]



[SIZE=12pt]I am unable to evangelize[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Then pray for the Lord to save people![/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]Also, ask yourself “Why am I so busy that I cannot evangelize?” or, try to work out if there is a way that you can evangelize, ask the Lord for wisdom in rearranging your schedule.[/SIZE]

When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.” ([SIZE=10.5pt]Matthew 9:36-38)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Those who keep making unrighteous excuses for not doing what the Lord commanded shall have what is given taken away. [/SIZE]

“Then he who had received the one talent came and said, ‘Lord, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you have not sown, and gathering where you have not scattered seed. And I was afraid, and went and hid your talent in the ground. Look, there you have what is yours.’

But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.” ([SIZE=10.5pt]Matthew 25:24-27)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]What message do I share with the people?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The Gospel. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The Gospel is the message of Christ who died on the Cross and rose again on the third day, paying the price for the sins of mankind, so they could be redeemed from Hell, and have eternity in Heaven.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]God did not need to send His Son into the world to save them, yet God loved the world so greatly that He sent Jesus to die for them. God cannot make anyone obey Him, He gives people free will to seek for the meaning of life. People are without excuse, because all of Creation testifies that there is a Creator God who made all things. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Share Scriptures such as:[/SIZE]

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. - John 14:6

Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. - Matthew 11:29

Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” - John 3:3

For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?[SIZE=10.5pt] 37 [/SIZE]Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul? - Mark 8:36

The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. – John 10:10

There is none righteous, no, not one; there is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God. – Romans 3:10,11

All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out. – John 6:37

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. - John 3:16


[SIZE=12pt]I am too busy to evangelize[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Then change your schedule. People need the Gospel. No Christian should ever be ‘too busy’ to obey the commandments of the Lord. God requires of His people to take up their Cross, deny themselves and to obey ! [/SIZE]

Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. – Luke 9:23
[SIZE=12pt]I’m waiting for the Lord to tell me to evangelize[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]The Word of God has instructed you to evangelize – if you can’t understand from all the teachings and all the Scriptures in the Gospels, Epistles, and the whole New Testament, as well as the Old, then there is something wrong in your ability to understand what it is the Holy Spirit requires of His people. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]I already evangelize to people I work with[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]You probably work around 15 people maximum. It doesn’t make sense that you evangelize to the same 15 people everyday for the number of years you are at your job. There are another 7 billion people on the planet that need the gospel and they are waiting for YOU![/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]I don’t have the boldness to share the gospel[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Then print off some tracts and share or leave them in people’s mailboxes, or just share with people. Does this take much boldness ? There are many ways to reach people. Ask God to show you what you can do.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]I share the gospel with people, do I need to do more?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]You must always seek God for how to be increasingly effective in saving people.[/SIZE]


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aspen

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We do not have the power to save anyone.
I believe we are call to witness so that people will learn that we were created to be free rather than slaves to sin. Salvation is a bi-product. Sort of like peace of mind is a bi-product of meditative prayer
 

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Hi Angela, I disagree with the tone of your post as you said, "[SIZE=10.5pt]As a Christian, evangelism should be a regular and normal part of your routine. If you are not always seeking to save people from the lake of fire – then this shows there is something wrong with your understanding of God’s plans and what He requires from you."[/SIZE]

This type of zealousness usually does more harm than good.

1 Cor. 12:28-29 - "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."

Eph. 4:11-12 - "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"

No, it is NOT every christians job to go out and evangelize to everyone they meet. I'm sure the OP is well intentioned but the teachers who taught you this are mistaken. Not every can or should evangelize. To offer the message, "Accept Christ or burn in hell forever" is something I call fear-mongering evangelism and it should be avoided at all cost even though the premise might be true. The Left Behind movies are an excellent example of this. Not everyone should or can be a teacher, evangelist, pastor, etc. Let me offer some examples I've experienced. I was born and raised Pentecostal and even when I was back-slidden and sowing my wild oats I still read the bible on occasion.

There was a time in my life when I was a pot-head and I read this verse: 1 Cor. 9:20-22 - "And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some."

At that time in my life the devil twisted these words to mean, "to the potheads, I became a pothead so that I might save some" so while getting stoned with others I "witnessed" to them and was stupid enough to feel good doing it. A few years after that when I was straight, I saw one of those guys and he had become a christian and I made the offhand remark that some of our conversations had born some fruit and he looked me straight in the eye and said he had become a christian in spite of me and not because of me and that was one humbling experience let me tell you!

Another time, I had a co-worker who was an alcoholic and he attended a revival service and was "saved". With the zealousness of a new christian he shared his experience and warned everyone that if they didn't get right with God they would go to hell. He would yell and argue with everyone he met who disagreed with him. A couple of weeks later he went back to drinking and became the laughing stock of the factory I worked in.

Jehovah's Witnesses are another good example of over zealousness. While one may question their message, you also must admire their zeal but it comes at a cost. They don't have a good reputation among unbelievers and are made fun of by many comedians. Even I have turned the lights off and became as quiet as a mouse, so they would just go away.

I attended a church service once that was pastored by a guy who had the same message as the OP and he even "demonstrated" how easy it was to evangelize. He had a member of the congregation come up and he said, "Christ calls us to visit the sick so just imagine Bob here is in a hospital room and this is how you witness:
Pastor: Do you know Christ as your personal Saviour?
Bob: No
Pastor: Would you like to?
Bob: Yes
Pastor: Then let us pray! Do you see how easy that was? Anyone can do it!

I practically choked holding in the derisive laughter that wanted to explode out of my mouth! Sometimes the best way a christian can witness is to keep their mouths shut and just try to imitate the life of Christ as best as they can and let their life do the witnessing for them.

With all that said,let me add that I do believe it is every christian's responsibility to know how to witness to a person and lead them to the Lord, but there is no set formula. Every "divine appointment" is different with a unique set of circumstances. This is the verse I try to follow whenever I feel led to witness or answer to someone. 1 Peter 3:15 - "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear."

In many ways, the early church had an easier time witnessing because just about everyone followed one god or another but in modern times we must deal with a humanity that rejects ALL gods, not just ours. We must deal with those who believe that science is their god or the humanist thinking that we are all gods or those who see christians as hypocrites because we struggle with various issues and have trouble living up to the false high standards that well known preachers wrongly say that christians should live this way or that way.

This is one of the reasons I like these Christian Board formats because a variety of topics are covered and we can all learn about things we didn't know that might speak specifically to an individual that Christ may lead our way. Anyway, I don't know if this will change the way you see things or not but at least I gave you a different aspect to consider.
 

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We should always be witnessing, always praying, but we don't have to be rude or obnoxious about it. Christians have to earn the right to speak into people's lives through developing a relationship with them that can make way for more personal conversations. People have their guard up when dealing with strangers, people in the workplace, or other people of quotidian interaction. But people will open up to a friend, somebody who shows they care for that person.

As far as not having the power to save people, Aspen, I fail to see where that claim was made. Jonah was told specifically that his job was to warn the people of Ninevah, and they would be responsible for their decision, whether to repent or not, and that if they refused to repent, their blood would be on their own heads. Evangelism hasn't changed all that much in 3000 years, nor the purpose of evangelism. We send the message, but it must be stressed, it's our job to send that message and no excuse (we can't save anybody) will exonerate our failure to do so.
 

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I believe we are call to witness so that people will learn that we were created to be free rather than slaves to sin. Salvation is a bi-product. Sort of like peace of mind is a bi-product of meditative prayer/
I disagree with the above...salvation cannot be a bi-product if Christ's death on the cross enabled believers to be set free from the power of sin in the first place. :huh:
 

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There is a trend in protestant churches these days that isn't being addressed by the leadership. The issues are mismanagement of funds and neglect of the flock.

Nearly every church I know of is in immediate financial trouble. Those that aren't soon will be. One of the answers to financial distress, as every household knows, is to cut expenses. The other is to somehow increase cash flow. Churches tend to overspend and when cautioned against it, refuse to listen to reason. Soon after they find themselves in grievous debt. In other words, they are mismanaging God's money, sometimes deliberately. In refusing to cut expenses, they are left with two options to increase cash flow; appeal to the membership for greater giving and remind the membership repeatedly to evangelize. Neither of the latter will work.

People are faced with constant rising prices every day. Have you been to the grocery store recently? You know what I mean. People are already taxed to the hilt by government and overcharged to obscene levels by those with whom they have to do business. The religious tax, otherwise called tithe, cannot be raised any higher. People simply cannot and will not sacrifice their families to support excessive and irresponsible church expenditures. I know a local pastor who took a three month vacation with pay. Really? True story. I'm not stretching the facts at all. Is this right? I left the church because of it. What would you do?

Evangelism isn't altogether the solution either. Church leadership is charged with the task, yet we hear constant talk that its the job of the congregation. Where are the leaders of the past who busied themselves every day with evangelism? Did Billy Graham ever stop traveling all over the world with the message of Christ and blame the congregations of the churches for not doing so, or did he, as a leader, assume the responsibility himself? Pastors today are too busy counting the offerings on Sunday to bother with evangelism. That's somebody else's job.

Pastors today are negligent about caring for the flock. They staff it out. Every single church does this. The pastor is merely the ring master in the religious circus called Churchianity. Our young are NOT being prepared to face the serious spiritual assaults they will face in college and the work place. It is the responsibility of every church pastor to prepare them to the best of his ability, yet the youth of every church are ignored principally because they do not donate cash.

Is God, like our modern pastors, concerned with quantity or is He concerned with quality? Every Christian I know expresses an increased ministry of the Holy Spirit in his or her life. That interest is in sharpening the faithful. We have not seen a national revival since the early 1970's - at which time I may add the church leaders almost with one mind expressed disdain for the Holy Spirit and worked against its tender mercies. I know. I was there and I was a victim of their spite and vengeance. I was personally asked by members of the board of ministry of the Episcopal church to deny Christ. The ministry, I was told, "is just a job."

Shall I then evangelize my town so that these snakes can make men twice as fit for hell as they are themselves? Been there and done that, as someone has said - and it profited neither I nor the church. Calls for evangelism today are nothing more than a shallow attempt by debauched clergy to line their pockets. They always seem to have one hand on the Bible and the other in someone else's pocket.

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God has gifts for every one not all are called to evangelize but I do believe He wants them to help in it in ways they can just as He wants all to help with those of the faith as they can.
 

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There is a trend in protestant churches these days that isn't being addressed by the leadership. The issues are mismanagement of funds and neglect of the flock.

Nearly every church I know of is in immediate financial trouble. Those that aren't soon will be. One of the answers to financial distress, as every household knows, is to cut expenses. The other is to somehow increase cash flow. Churches tend to overspend and when cautioned against it, refuse to listen to reason. Soon after they find themselves in grievous debt. In other words, they are mismanaging God's money, sometimes deliberately. In refusing to cut expenses, they are left with two options to increase cash flow; appeal to the membership for greater giving and remind the membership repeatedly to evangelize. Neither of the latter will work.

People are faced with constant rising prices every day. Have you been to the grocery store recently? You know what I mean. People are already taxed to the hilt by government and overcharged to obscene levels by those with whom they have to do business. The religious tax, otherwise called tithe, cannot be raised any higher. People simply cannot and will not sacrifice their families to support excessive and irresponsible church expenditures. I know a local pastor who took a three month vacation with pay. Really? True story. I'm not stretching the facts at all. Is this right? I left the church because of it. What would you do?

Evangelism isn't altogether the solution either. Church leadership is charged with the task, yet we hear constant talk that its the job of the congregation. Where are the leaders of the past who busied themselves every day with evangelism? Did Billy Graham ever stop traveling all over the world with the message of Christ and blame the congregations of the churches for not doing so, or did he, as a leader, assume the responsibility himself? Pastors today are too busy counting the offerings on Sunday to bother with evangelism. That's somebody else's job.

Pastors today are negligent about caring for the flock. They staff it out. Every single church does this. The pastor is merely the ring master in the religious circus called Churchianity. Our young are NOT being prepared to face the serious spiritual assaults they will face in college and the work place. It is the responsibility of every church pastor to prepare them to the best of his ability, yet the youth of every church are ignored principally because they do not donate cash.

Is God, like our modern pastors, concerned with quantity or is He concerned with quality? Every Christian I know expresses an increased ministry of the Holy Spirit in his or her life. That interest is in sharpening the faithful. We have not seen a national revival since the early 1970's - at which time I may add the church leaders almost with one mind expressed disdain for the Holy Spirit and worked against its tender mercies. I know. I was there and I was a victim of their spite and vengeance. I was personally asked by members of the board of ministry of the Episcopal church to deny Christ. The ministry, I was told, "is just a job."

Shall I then evangelize my town so that these snakes can make men twice as fit for hell as they are themselves? Been there and done that, as someone has said - and it profited neither I nor the church. Calls for evangelism today are nothing more than a shallow attempt by debauched clergy to line their pockets. They always seem to have one hand on the Bible and the other in someone else's pocket.

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...
You lost me there and discredited your entire post with that sentence.
 

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†. Matt 28:18-20 . . All authority has been given to me in heaven and on
earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, teaching them to
observe all things that I have commanded you.

There's never been a more opportune time in history for the Lord's followers
to fulfil his mandate. With nothing more than a computer and internet
access, even the lowliest, insignificant pew warmer can send Christ's teachings
around the entire civilized globe with no more effort than the click of a mouse
button. All the Lord's followers can be missionaries in the modern era without
sacrificing even one day away from the privacy and comforts of their own homes.

†. Eph 5:15-16 . . Be very careful, then, how you live-- not as unwise but as
wise, making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil.


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You need to read Matthew 28 v 19 - 20 again. Does it say Go therefore and evangelize all the nations; baptize them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit; and teach them to obey every command which I have given you. And remember, I am with you always, day by day, until the Close of the Age."

No it doesn't. It says Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations; baptize them into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit; and teach them to obey every command which I have given you. And remember, I am with you always, day by day, until the Close of the Age."

That word disciple means to become a pupil and to enrol as a scholar. We are not called to get people to accept Jesus as their saviour or get them to ask Jesus into their heart. We are called to sign them up as pupils of Jesus and to teach them what Jesus has taught us. Thus equipped they can go into all the world and make disciples as well.

It seems that today we get them to ask Jesus into their heart and come to church. If that is discipleship and being a scholar, then I will return the four degrees that I have.

Bearing in mind you produce after your own kind, only disciples can produce disciples. If you are into easy believism then you will produce people that are into easy believism. You will produce church attenders but not disciples.