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Hi Guy,Well, I thought this once, too. HOWEVER, the Prophet Joel was fulfilled according to the book of Acts.Acts 2:15-21 "For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."So, it ALREADY happened. We were ALL saved by the blood of Jesus Christ in that day in which he died when there was a lunar eclipse in the weeks before, then a solar eclipse and a great earthquake at Christ's death on the cross.We have been in the "Tribulation" for the last 2000 years. What happened after Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans in 70AD?The Christians were persecuted and murdered by the hundreds of thousands. Then followed the burning of Rome, a great plaque in which 300,000 people died. Then followed wars, and the Crusades, and more earthquakes, and more plagues, and more wars, all the way to this century with it's two Great Wars, World Wars I and II and the exploding of the atomic bomb.We are now living in the times of great darkness, where the figurative "sun, moon, and stars", no longer shed their light. The Great Apostacy as prophesied.It is always "darkest before the dawn".2 Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,"We are ALL going to go THROUGH tribulation. Because that's how we are to be molded into the likeness of Christ. It is a test of our faith that we hold steadfast until the end.Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:"The Great Tribulation began 2000 years ago with the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.Yes, we will be spared in the end, however that doesn't mean our lives will be easy or we won't face persecution.John 16:33 "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."And then the Apostle John spoke of the last days.1John 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."The Apostles knew they were living in the "last time".Next clue:The 70x7 forgiveness of Jesus.Matthew 18:21-22 "Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.70x7=490 The number of years from the time of Daniel's Prophecy to the first time of Christ. The "times of forgiveness of sins."Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.This has all happened already. We are now living in the days AFTER the Great Tribulation.....a time of great darkness and apostacy among God's people.Kim
I agree with some parts of your post but not when the tribulation began there are two tribulations one is Satans one is Gods (wrath)Satan's is first and starts when he gets kicked out of heaven at 5th/6th trump Gods tribulation is the 7th trump You mistaking the time of the gentiles for a tribulation The first part of scripture (old testament was about the hebrews(jews)the second part was about Salvation being open to the Gentiles(all)the end times pulls both together If you stop and give it some thought why is this time where the Good news is we are saved by Grace any worse than the time before to be called the tribulation????? Makes no sense and theres no scriptures that say this I can remember.Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.