Noah's Flood and Serpent Seed

God created the races. (Genesis 1:26-28) Satan's seedline which is another race (Genesis 3:15, Genesis 4:16-23) and then Adam and Eve seedline, a race for Christ to come through (Genesis 3:15, Genesis 5)Genesis 6:2 - That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.We know that the fallen angels (sons of God) has sex with the daughters of men (flesh women) Gave birth to giants (Nephilim sp?) (Genesis 6:4)Noah and his family are the only ones that did not mix with with the fallen angels. (Genesis 6:9-10)Then look here...Genesis 7:15-16 - And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in.Genesis 6:3 - And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.On another note: The word beast is also referred to people. (not just animals) Look at Genesis 3:1.God saves the races. That's the only way to explain Genesis 3:15 prophecying the Kenites that crucified our Lord Yahshua on the cross.One more thing, Noah exceeds the age of 120 years old, because God extended his life for following instructions that God gave him.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Now looking at denominationally... If the eight souls (all are from Adamite races) only survived the flood, How did one race makes many races? It is impossisble because God does it the natural way. Not the innatural way. (Genesis 1:26) We will all have the same skin color.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour.

Lots of people say God flooded the whole Earth (planet)Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Genesis 1:10 - And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.So when the bible says that God flooded the Earth. It can mean the whole planet Earth, or it can mean that he flooded the land (not the planet)So that is another reasonable conclusion...The Kenites still crucified Yahshua on the cross.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, our Lord and Saviour.

Umm....I thought in Genesis, it declared that it was not considered sin/incest because the human race was starting out... and were commanded to multiply. Here we see in Genesis 20, the carrying out of that commandment still before Leviticus 6-18 put an end to it as there were enough people now to not marry within the family.Genesis 20: 8Therefore Abimelech rose early in the morning, and called all his servants, and told all these things in their ears: and the men were sore afraid. 9Then Abimelech called Abraham, and said unto him, What hast thou done unto us? and what have I offended thee, that thou hast brought on me and on my kingdom a great sin? thou hast done deeds unto me that ought not to be done. 10And Abimelech said unto Abraham, What sawest thou, that thou hast done this thing? 11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. 13And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said unto her, This is thy kindness which thou shalt shew unto me; at every place whither we shall come, say of me, He is my brother. 14And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife. It was Leviticus 18 that the Lord decreed from that time on that it was an abomination to marry your sister or even as Abraham had done, but Abraham had not sinned, because it was not decreed as sin yet.Leviticus 18: 1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the LORD your God. 3After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. 4Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God. 5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD. 6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD..... 9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. Incidentally, this may help further the knowledge that we are all related to one another as new scientific and mathematic tools have detected Adam and Eve. http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/....html#wp1273100I am not familiar with the kenites or the other races or seeds of Satan, but I believe you may find this interesting.Here is another link to how the human race developed.http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/....html#wp2934642I would like to point out that when Jacob came out, he was smooth skinned as opposed to his brother, Esau, that was hairy all over with coarse red hair for Biblical evidence of differentiation within the family.Acts 17: 24God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; I got the above verses from this link below.http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.htmlI believe there is another verse somewhere about how we all have one father, Malachi 2: 10Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? I think that was the one I was trying to remember. Anyway, hopes this helps?

(Pariah;24142)
Umm....I thought in Genesis, it declared that it was not considered sin/incest because the human race was starting out... and were commanded to multiply. Here we see in Genesis 20, the carrying out of that commandment still before Leviticus 6-18 put an end to it as there were enough people now to not marry within the family.Genesis 20: 8Therefore Abimelech rose early in the morning, and called all his servants, and told all these things in their ears: and the men were sore afraid. 9Then Abimelech called Abraham, and said unto him, What hast thou done unto us? and what have I offended thee, that thou hast brought on me and on my kingdom a great sin? thou hast done deeds unto me that ought not to be done. 10And Abimelech said unto Abraham, What sawest thou, that thou hast done this thing? 11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. 13And it came to pass, when God caused me to wander from my father's house, that I said unto her, This is thy kindness which thou shalt shew unto me; at every place whither we shall come, say of me, He is my brother. 14And Abimelech took sheep, and oxen, and menservants, and womenservants, and gave them unto Abraham, and restored him Sarah his wife. It was Leviticus 18 that the Lord decreed from that time on that it was an abomination to marry your sister or even as Abraham had done, but Abraham had not sinned, because it was not decreed as sin yet.Leviticus 18: 1And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the LORD your God. 3After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you, shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances. 4Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk therein: I am the LORD your God. 5Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD. 6None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD..... 9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. Incidentally, this may help further the knowledge that we are all related to one another as new scientific and mathematic tools have detected Adam and Eve. http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/....html#wp1273100I am not familiar with the kenites or the other races or seeds of Satan, but I believe you may find this interesting.Here is another link to how the human race developed.[url="http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ313.html#wp2934642]http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/....html#wp2934642[/url]I would like to point out that when Jacob came out, he was smooth skinned as opposed to his brother, Esau, that was hairy all over with coarse red hair for Biblical evidence of differentiation within the family.Acts 17: 24God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; I got the above verses from this link below.http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/race-definition.htmlI believe there is another verse somewhere about how we all have one father, Malachi 2: 10Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? I think that was the one I was trying to remember. Anyway, hopes this helps?
Dear Pariah(Are you my brother in Christ?) I know Adam & Eve are not the first two people that existed on Earth like some to most people do. I can prove that to you...but I will take it to a denominationally level...to show how error are they in?If Adam and Eve are two people...Cain and Abel are "two sons" of Adam. That's four people existed right here on Earth. Only four people. We know Cain murdered his (half-)brother making it three people left on Earth.Genesis 4:8 - And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.Genesis 4:9 - And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?Genesis 4:10 - And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.Genesis 4:11 - And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;Genesis 4:12 - When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.Genesis 4:13 - And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.Then look at Genesis 4:14 to see the major flaw of this false doctrine.Genesis 4:14 - Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.Look at that verse. Two major things going on here. If there were three people left on Earth, ...God hast driven Cain out from the face of the Earth...away from Adam and Eve... Cain said "That everyone findeth me shall slay me."Then where did Cain magical wife come from on Genesis 4:17? See how flaw the denominationally doctrine is? The only conclusion is the 6th day races from Genesis 1:26-28 that God created.Cain is the seedline of Satan (Genesis 3:15) No doubt about that.JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.

Hi Jag,Yes. You are my brother in Christ. I just don't know where you got "kenites" out of that. I am not familiar with that teaching.Anyway, some things to consider.Genesis 2: 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.Genesis 2: 20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.If there were other "races", why did God put Adam through that?Genesis 3: 20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.We read a confirmation of this in Malachi..Malachi 2: 10Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? Thus we read here as confirmed in Acts.Acts 17: 26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;So where did Cain get his wife? Adam and Eve did have other children. Just because Cain, Abel, and Seth were mentioned, it did not mean there were no other. Look at Genesis 5 and note that just because Cain was not mentioned, he did not exist. Then note verse 4. There were other sons and daughters after Seth. Now note verse 5. That is a pretty long time to be "begatting" children, but it goes on to follow the lineage of Seth after verse 5. They did not list all the children of Adam anymore than they listed all the children of Seth.Genesis 5: 1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Now also, Romans 5 is also important as it is by Adam, sin came into the world and by Adam, we "inherit" sin and thus death. There can be no "outside" races because how could they inherit sin and death? Thus it leads to the glory of God in how by Christ... life is given to us by grace.Romans 5: 12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.So Cain got his wife, and it "looks" like it was his sister. All I know... there were no other races of man.But hey, I would keep this in mind.1 Corinthians 13: 8Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.So I love ya, brother! I believe I know. But like the pre-tribulation rapture, we shall see.And since we shall be made perfect, I don't think we shall be "rubbing it in" when we are in Heaven when we find out one way or the other. All that matters is our faith in Christ and keeping that faith as that is the good fight.

Titus 3: 7That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. 8This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. 9But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

(Pariah;24152)
Hi Jag,Yes. You are my brother in Christ. I just don't know where you got "kenites" out of that. I am not familiar with that teaching.Anyway, some things to consider.Genesis 2: 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.Genesis 2: 20And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.If there were other "races", why did God put Adam through that?Genesis 3: 20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.We read a confirmation of this in Malachi..Malachi 2: 10Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? Thus we read here as confirmed in Acts.Acts 17: 26And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;So where did Cain get his wife? Adam and Eve did have other children. Just because Cain, Abel, and Seth were mentioned, it did not mean there were no other. Look at Genesis 5 and note that just because Cain was not mentioned, he did not exist. Then note verse 4. There were other sons and daughters after Seth. Now note verse 5. That is a pretty long time to be "begatting" children, but it goes on to follow the lineage of Seth after verse 5. They did not list all the children of Adam anymore than they listed all the children of Seth.Genesis 5: 1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Now also, Romans 5 is also important as it is by Adam, sin came into the world and by Adam, we "inherit" sin and thus death. There can be no "outside" races because how could they inherit sin and death? Thus it leads to the glory of God in how by Christ... life is given to us by grace.Romans 5: 12Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. 15But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 20Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.So Cain got his wife, and it "looks" like it was his sister. All I know... there were no other races of man.But hey, I would keep this in mind.1 Corinthians 13: 8Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.So I love ya, brother! I believe I know. But like the pre-tribulation rapture, we shall see.And since we shall be made perfect, I don't think we shall be "rubbing it in" when we are in Heaven when we find out one way or the other. All that matters is our faith in Christ and keeping that faith as that is the good fight.
KenitesHebrew #7017 - 7017 Qeyniy kay-nee' or Qiyniy (1 Chron. 2:55) {kee-nee'}; patronymic from 7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:--Kenite.Hebrew #7014 - Qayin kah'-yin the same as 7013 (with a play upon the affinity to 7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe:--Cain, Kenite(-s).Hebrew #8423 - Tuwbal Qayin too-bal' kah'-yin apparently from 2986 (Compare 2981) and 7014; offspring of Cain; Tubal-Kajin, an antidiluvian patriarch:--Tubal-cain.Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman, (Eve) and between thy seed (Cain and the Kenites) and her seed; (Lineage for Christ to come through) it (Yahshua/Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head, (Satan) and thou (Satan - Kenites) shalt bruise his heel. (Yahshua/Jesus Christ)Adam and Eve are just a special lineage for Christ to come through.God created our souls. He is the Creator. But here in this flesh...we have two choices, To be with Christ our Husband or to be with Satan (who wants to be our father)JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.

Uh, Jag?I think you bettter take a look at where that teaching came from.http://www.carm.org/chapel/serpent_seed.htmI still love ya as my brother!!! But you better take a look at that link.A quick refutation of that belief is here as you read the link above:Genesis 4:1-2Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of YHWH I have brought forth a man." Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

(Pariah;24209)
Uh, Jag?I think you bettter take a look at where that teaching came from.http://www.carm.org/chapel/serpent_seed.htmI still love ya as my brother!!! But you better take a look at that link.A quick refutation of that belief is here as you read the link above:Genesis 4:1-2Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of YHWH I have brought forth a man." Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.
Pariah, I got a problem with that...and yes, I have read it before.Do you know who said this at Genesis 4:1? It not God saying it. It is Eve saying it.How else are we suppose to explain thy seed from? when God is speaking to Satan.Seed at Genesis 3:15Hebrew #2233 - 2233 zera` zeh'-rah from 2232; seed; figuratively, fruit, plant, sowing-time, posterity:--X carnally, child, fruitful, seed(-time), sowing- time.1) seed, sowing, offspring a) a sowing seedc) semen viriled) offspring, descendants, posterity, childrene) of moral qualityHebrew #2232 - 2232 zara` zaw-rah' a primitive root; to sow; figuratively, to disseminate, plant, fructify:--bear, conceive seed, set with sow(-er), yield.1) to be sown2) to become pregnant, be made pregnantTherefore Cain and Abel are half-brothers. They have a different father.There is NO way, I will take Adam & Eve as the first two people on Earth.Jag

Hi Jag,I believe you misquoted Eve.Genesis 4: 1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. KJVShe did not say the first part of that verse. That was history being written.
Therefore Cain and Abel are half-brothers. They have a different father.There is NO way, I will take Adam & Eve as the first two people on Earth.
Okay. I shall not argue about it. I believe otherwise, because it is plainly written as far as I can see.Love ya anyway, Jag!!

(Pariah;24257)
Hi Jag,I believe you misquoted Eve.Genesis 4: 1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. KJVShe did not say the first part of that verse. That was history being written.(thesuperjag;24214)
Therefore Cain and Abel are half-brothers. They have a different father.There is NO way, I will take Adam & Eve as the first two people on Earth.
Okay. I shall not argue about it. I believe otherwise, because it is plainly written as far as I can see.Love ya anyway, Jag!! You know I love you...and about Eve saying that part. I was referring to the part that she said it. Not the history of it. I'll take God's Words at Genesis 3:15 over Eve at Genesis 4:1. I really do care for your soul Pariah. I'll pray for you. I would like to know your first name. PM me if you don't wanted posted here.What's sad is Eve misquoted God at Genesis 3:2-3JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.

Hi Jag!Just a quick question: did you read all of that page at that link? It did explain the seed for which you had posted the question.
How else are we suppose to explain thy seed from? when God is speaking to Satan.
I believe it was referring to spiritual identity too. But if you had read the whole thing at the link, then I'll just drop it there. The link here in case you needed to revisit. http://www.carm.org/chapel/serpent_seed.htmIncidentally, my first name is Scott.

He is only one of several Bible teachers that teach this and just because a church that teaches rapture theroy calls a church that doesnt a false teaching does not make it so. If Gods Word backs it up Are you aware that Joseph of Arimathaea the uncle of Jesus Christ taught this to the first churches in Scotland soon after the crusifiction.The Word kennite means descentant of Cain like it or not They were the majority of the Saducees and the Pharasees you can pick them up coming out of Eygept with the Hebrews

Hi kriss,
He is only one of several Bible teachers that teach this and just because a church that teaches rapture theroy calls a church that doesnt a false teaching does not make it so. If Gods Word backs it up Are you aware that Joseph of Arimathaea the uncle of Jesus Christ taught this to the first churches in Scotland soon after the crusifiction.The Word kennite means descentant of Cain like it or not They were the majority of the Saducees and the Pharasees you can pick them up coming out of Eygept with the Hebrews
I don't believe that I was using the rapture theory as an angle to prove it false.I believe the Bible when it says Adam knew Eve, she concieved and gave birth to Cain. She gave the Lord the credit only because she is the first woman to give the first birth. How many women after seeing others having given birth, were praying to God "still" for help because of the difficulty of labour pains?And... that would mean that Eve committed the first adultery. By everyone's acceptance that there were other races, Adam would have "divorced" her, and gone to seek another wife. There would have been no "Abel" from Eve.The scriptures tells us that Eve is the mother of all living. God refers to seed in prophecy so it has to be a spiritual identity as to our sin fallen nature. Jesus referred to that spiritual identity of the Pharisees and the Sadducess by their lying nature as being of devil, the father of lies. John 8: 39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Remember how God promised that those that were not His people were now His people through Christ Jesus?1 Peter 2: 8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.1 John 3:He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.So it is the spiritual identity of being related to the devil by the sinful nature as to the reference of seed.... just as we are now identified by the promised seed Whom is Christ. That is how we are called His people now. So the prophecy of God's promise and declaration to the devil regarding his seed as opposed to His seed has come true. We are now His people again because of Jesus Christ.I do believe there was a global flood. I believe the Bible. I believe the people saw whale bones up on High Mountains in Baja Mexico as their guide showed them alot of fossils up there, including a huge shark tooth.This one is a family's guide showing fossilized whale bones.http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/66877897This one shows whale bones at the feet of their guide: in a straight line; mayhap representing spine?http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/56489397Huge shark tooth found in High Mountain Desert! Real good picture of its size.http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/56489305Anyway, there are enough evidences in the world to declare a global flood and no survivors of that Flood except Noah and his family. So the seed of Satan is the spiritual seed of our former sinful nature. And we all came from Adam and Eve.Evidence of a global flood can be found in recordings down through history, and not just from the Bible.http://www.allaboutcreation.org/global-flood-faq.htmAs this false teaching is spreading around, even Jews are rationalizing it as people do with the evolution theory. They resist the idea that the desecendents of Cain could be mingled in with Noah's family lineage, and the only way to do that is not believe in a world wide flood.http://www.biblestudygames.com/biblestudies/faq/kenites.htmI really think the full ramification of this teaching is not fully shown as this would mean that Eve committed adultery, and if thus true, then Adam would have sought another wife if there were other "races". But the Bible declared that Adam "knew" Eve as in having sex, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain.

(Pariah;24284)
Hi Jag!Just a quick question: did you read all of that page at that link? It did explain the seed for which you had posted the question.(thesuperjag;24214)
How else are we suppose to explain thy seed from? when God is speaking to Satan.
I believe it was referring to spiritual identity too. But if you had read the whole thing at the link, then I'll just drop it there. The link here in case you needed to revisit. http://www.carm.org/chapel/serpent_seed.htmIncidentally, my first name is Scott.Yes I have read the whole link...In fact, I read more than just that link...It disgusts me to see the false accusations.(Pariah;24315)
Hi kriss,(Kriss;24287)
He is only one of several Bible teachers that teach this and just because a church that teaches rapture theroy calls a church that doesnt a false teaching does not make it so. If Gods Word backs it up Are you aware that Joseph of Arimathaea the uncle of Jesus Christ taught this to the first churches in Scotland soon after the crusifiction.The Word kennite means descentant of Cain like it or not They were the majority of the Saducees and the Pharasees you can pick them up coming out of Eygept with the Hebrews
I don't believe that I was using the rapture theory as an angle to prove it false.I believe the Bible when it says Adam knew Eve, she concieved and gave birth to Cain. She gave the Lord the credit only because she is the first woman to give the first birth. How many women after seeing others having given birth, were praying to God "still" for help because of the difficulty of labour pains?And... that would mean that Eve committed the first adultery. By everyone's acceptance that there were other races, Adam would have "divorced" her, and gone to seek another wife. There would have been no "Abel" from Eve.The scriptures tells us that Eve is the mother of all living. God refers to seed in prophecy so it has to be a spiritual identity as to our sin fallen nature. Jesus referred to that spiritual identity of the Pharisees and the Sadducess by their lying nature as being of devil, the father of lies. John 8: 39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Remember how God promised that those that were not His people were now His people through Christ Jesus?1 Peter 2: 8And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. 9But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; 10Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.1 John 3:He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.So it is the spiritual identity of being related to the devil by the sinful nature as to the reference of seed.... just as we are now identified by the promised seed Whom is Christ. That is how we are called His people now. So the prophecy of God's promise and declaration to the devil regarding his seed as opposed to His seed has come true. We are now His people again because of Jesus Christ.I do believe there was a global flood. I believe the Bible. I believe the people saw whale bones up on High Mountains in Baja Mexico as their guide showed them alot of fossils up there, including a huge shark tooth.This one is a family's guide showing fossilized whale bones.[url="http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/66877897]http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/66877897[/url]This one shows whale bones at the feet of their guide: in a straight line; mayhap representing spine?http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/56489397Huge shark tooth found in High Mountain Desert! Real good picture of its size.http://www.pbase.com/mad_monte1/image/56489305Anyway, there are enough evidences in the world to declare a global flood and no survivors of that Flood except Noah and his family. So the seed of Satan is the spiritual seed of our former sinful nature. And we all came from Adam and Eve.Evidence of a global flood can be found in recordings down through history, and not just from the Bible.http://www.allaboutcreation.org/global-flood-faq.htmAs this false teaching is spreading around, even Jews are rationalizing it as people do with the evolution theory. They resist the idea that the desecendents of Cain could be mingled in with Noah's family lineage, and the only way to do that is not believe in a world wide flood.http://www.biblestudygames.com/biblestudies/faq/kenites.htmI really think the full ramification of this teaching is not fully shown as this would mean that Eve committed adultery, and if thus true, then Adam would have sought another wife if there were other "races". But the Bible declared that Adam "knew" Eve as in having sex, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain.Words in Magenta and Lime, Adam did have sex with Eve...While the verse, the second part saying that Eve said it...whereof the words in Orange is where you are flaw, for Eve is not the first woman to give birth...as the below scriptures said it so...Genesis 1:26-28 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.In words in Yellow, Eve is the mother of all living, cause the daughters of the lineage for Christ to come through are the one's doing the crushing Satan's head.YHWH spake the need of a LIVING lineage for Christ to come through to Satan at Genesis 3:15.The genealogy of Cain is of a DEAD lineage that tries to destroy Christ lineage... (Genesis 4:16-22)Whereof Adam's seedline is LIVING! (Genesis 5)And...Mark 12:27 - He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.Jag

Hi Jag,If you do not mind the ongoing discussion of this topic, may I reply then?I have read Genesis 4:16-22, and I do not see any verse declaring the descendents of Cain as specifically the "dead" lineage.And I doubt very much that Eve would call the devil, Lord.Genesis 4: 1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2And she again bare his brother Abel.... 25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. If we take to mean the Lord was the devil, then God was responsible for Eve being pregnant in baring Seth? In both verses, Adam knew his wife before she gave birth to Cain and to Seth. I believe Eve was "talking" about God in both verses.Job 1: 21And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.Psalm 127: 3Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.Isaiah 44: 24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;Now unto the common belief of other races.Genesis 2 is a recap of Genesis 1. It goes into the detail of God creating man. How do we know this? Well, we know that He rested from creating after the sixth day in Genesis 1. But yet at the beginning of Genesis 2, we see a continuation in regards to the creation of the Garden of Eden. That is what throws everyone off into thinking the creation of Adam was a seperate event, until they read this verse.Genesis 2: 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. So one wonders.. what? I thought we were passed the seventh day? This is what I mean by recap. It goes back again and went into detail about the creation of man.Genesis 2: 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. If you compare verse 6 with five, verse 6 is explaining what God had done to take care of the planet when man was not created yet to till the ground. So this is why Genesis 2 is a recap of more going into details of Genesis 1 in what happened when God created man.
Mark 12:27 - He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
In context, Jesus was declaring how those that have deceased are still living. That is what He meant. It is not a reference to Cain nor his descendents. Jesus was debunking that there was no resurrection. These Sadduccess that believed it posed the question even though they did not believe in the resurrection. It was asked in mocking the issue of the resurrection to show how silly it was, but they failed.Matthew 22: 23The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, 24Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. 25Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: 26Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. 27And last of all the woman died also. 28Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. 29Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. 33And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine. Sometimes it is best to see the cross references from the other four Gospels to get the full meaning of some of these verses.I love ya in Christ, Jag!!

As this false teaching is spreading around, even Jews are rationalizing it as people do with the evolution theory. They resist the idea that the descendants of Cain could be mingled in with Noah's family lineage, and the only way to do that is not believe in a world wide flood.(quote)This is where you are confused no one said Cain's blood was mingled with Noah's blood thats the whole point of this The Word Noah means pure. It was because Noahs bloodline was the only one that had not been corrupted that the flood was necessary to protect the line of which Christ would come This is the importance of this to understand that Christs line was never corrupted by Cain or his descendants.from the Bible Appendex26. NOAH "PERFECT". (GEN. 6:9). The Heb. word tamim means without blemish, and is the technical word for bodily and physical perfection, and not moral. Hence it is used of animals of sacrificial purity. It is rendered without blemish in Ex. 12:5; 29:1. Lev. 1:3, 10; 3:1, 6; 4:3, 23, 28, 32; 5:15, 18; 6:6; 9:2, 3; 14:10; 22:19; 23:12, 18. Num. 6:14; 28:19, 31; 29:2, 8, 13, 20, 23, 29, 32, 36. Ezek. 43:22, 23, 25; 45:18, 23; 46:4, 6, 13. Without Spot. Num. 19:2; 28:3, 9, 11; 29:17, 26. Undefiled. Ps. 119:1. This shows that Gen. 6:9 does not speak of Noah's moral perfection, but tells us that he and his family alone had preserved their pedigree and kept it pure, in spite of the prevailing corruption brought about by the fallen angels.

(Pariah;24337)
Hi Jag,If you do not mind the ongoing discussion of this topic, may I reply then?I have read Genesis 4:16-22, and I do not see any verse declaring the descendents of Cain as specifically the "dead" lineage.And I doubt very much that Eve would call the devil, Lord.Genesis 4: 1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2And she again bare his brother Abel.... 25And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. If we take to mean the Lord was the devil, then God was responsible for Eve being pregnant in baring Seth? In both verses, Adam knew his wife before she gave birth to Cain and to Seth. I believe Eve was "talking" about God in both verses.Job 1: 21And said, Naked came I out of my mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.Psalm 127: 3Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.Isaiah 44: 24Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;Now unto the common belief of other races.Genesis 2 is a recap of Genesis 1. It goes into the detail of God creating man. How do we know this? Well, we know that He rested from creating after the sixth day in Genesis 1. But yet at the beginning of Genesis 2, we see a continuation in regards to the creation of the Garden of Eden. That is what throws everyone off into thinking the creation of Adam was a seperate event, until they read this verse.Genesis 2: 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. So one wonders.. what? I thought we were passed the seventh day? This is what I mean by recap. It goes back again and went into detail about the creation of man.Genesis 2: 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. If you compare verse 6 with five, verse 6 is explaining what God had done to take care of the planet when man was not created yet to till the ground. So this is why Genesis 2 is a recap of more going into details of Genesis 1 in what happened when God created man.(thesuperjag;24324)
Mark 12:27 - He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
In context, Jesus was declaring how those that have deceased are still living. That is what He meant. It is not a reference to Cain nor his descendents. Jesus was debunking that there was no resurrection. These Sadduccess that believed it posed the question even though they did not believe in the resurrection. It was asked in mocking the issue of the resurrection to show how silly it was, but they failed.Matthew 22: 23The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, 24Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. 25Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: 26Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. 27And last of all the woman died also. 28Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. 29Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. 31But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, 32I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. 33And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine. Sometimes it is best to see the cross references from the other four Gospels to get the full meaning of some of these verses.I love ya in Christ, Jag!! Are we going to leave out Satan, for he has had sex with Eve...? (Genesis 3:13, II Corinthians 11:3) Adam participate in that "fruit" and strongly committed a threesome. (Genesis 3:6) And God can not create the law of sin...for He instructed Adam to stay away from Satan... (Genesis 2:16-17) ...yet Eve knew t too, but misquoted what God said. (Genesis 3:2-3) He did create Satan who became evil, way long before this Earth Age (Second, yet Flesh Age) There is no Darkness in Him, for only He can dwell in the Light. To live in darkness is to live in evil, we know that sin is evil. We are to hate it. (Psalm 97:10)It is clear that Cain had a personality just like Satan, for Cain is the main seedline of Satan. He shewed no repentance whatsoever, killed his half-brother, banished from the face of the Earth, away from Adam and his mother Eve in Genesis 4. All the characteristics that Cain has from Satan...He does not even serve Him, nor does his childrens served Him, but Satan...therefore his lineage is DEAD. They did kill Yahshua on the cross did they not?Genesis 2 is not Genesis 1 recap, but in progression of the story, the same can be said in Genesis 3 and Genesis 4 etc...God created this special man... (Genesis 2:7) ... This special...THE MAN (Genesis 2:8) and formed Eve later... (Genesis 2:21-23)Here take a look at these YELLOW letters and see if you can see the difference...Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.Genesis 2:23 - And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.Jag