My problem with Faith

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Osten

New Member
Feb 15, 2015
2
0
0
I was a more or less recent convert to Christianity. According to those around me, I became a Christian 6 months ago. I may have an outward appearance of being Christian, and my mother tells me that I help her in her spiritual journey, but I know that I am really weak in faith. I'm not just saying that because of the Christianity principle that tells us to be humble, I truly, genuinely, believe this.

My problem in general is that I tell myself that "God will make my life great. It just may not be this instant, or the way I want it." Doesn't this seem about right?

So I sometimes tell myself; My salvation is guaranteed, and so is God's love for me. But everything else, they most likely won't happen.

Well then I go on to not worry about any of my human struggles and desires. After all, Jesus told us not to worry.

But does this mean apathy? I do not worry, but I do not feel like I care either.

So I tell myself that I must care. That I must feel something to make sure I'm not being apathetic. And then I get really lost and confused.

I told myself that you can care, as long as you feel the holy spirit's presence in replace of your human emotions that tell you that you care. But I cannot feel God's presence at all times. I realize that when I give all my life to God, I must really follow through. But sometimes I cannot. It is a terrible time when that times.

My most recent situation was when I trusted God with this girl I liked. I felt like I was maturing in faith; Before I used to perhaps think about her all the time and always feel a wave of pessimism when things didn't go my way. Now (or then at the time) I didn't pay her one thought in my mind for several days. And then I saw her at school; I was not sure if I had just distanced myself away from her by being apathetic instead of fully trusting in God.

After all, I was not really following God during the time I was carefree. So now I am genuinely confused; What does it mean to truly trust God?

Yesterday I felt I more or less completely or halfway abandoned my faith. I woke up, not with a heart ready to serve because I slept with Pagan influences from the night before.

Then I dealt with my feelings immaturely.

At this moment, I was susceptible to attack by the devil, when he twisted a ton of scripture for his purpose.

I was feeling low, then I found confidence outside of God.

And then, I confided in my old demons. (It is of free-thinking and intellect)

And through that, I neglected all my duties to God.

And reading about Hell did not help either. I felt like I was turning away from God, and I needed to repent. But I was feeling so empty that I could not really repent.

So I spent about an hour in the night praying and reading and writing, then an hour this morning. I woke up feeling a bit better but I am no where near as full of spiritual fervor as before.

I guess I can justify this as a part of God's plan to wound my pride, or to remind me that I am sinful. But how may I avoid this? My faith is so weak. I pray that I am stronger. :(
 

lforrest

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Admin
Aug 10, 2012
5,587
6,836
113
Faith
Christian
Peace to you Osten.

Proverbs 16:9. You can follow your dreams if they are not in conflict with the Lord's will. Whatever calling the Lord has for you will be revealed in his timing.

You may benefit from a period of prayer and fasting so that your eyes may be opened and your faith increased. Seek God and you will find him. Deuteronomy 4:29.
 

rockytopva

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Dec 31, 2010
5,176
2,384
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
To have more faith you must dwell in faith things. Keep it on your TV, your radio, and your media player.

There is a story in this sermon that tells of a Catholic man who came down deathly ill. The priest comes in and gives him the last rites. As the priest leaves another priest comes through the wall and whispers these words...

"You don't have any trouble! All you need is faith in God!" After reading the Gospels these sounds like the very words of Jesus. Who on just about every occasion gave reason for the lack of faith when things did not go well.

Story @9:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl5FW3mKsyI
 

Angelina

Prayer Warrior
Staff member
Admin
Feb 4, 2011
37,095
15,033
113
New Zealand
www.facebook.com
Faith
Christian
Country
New Zealand
Hi Osten,
Welcome to CyB! :)


I was a more or less recent convert to Christianity. According to those around me, I became a Christian 6 months ago. I may have an outward appearance of being Christian, and my mother tells me that I help her in her spiritual journey, but I know that I am really weak in faith. I'm not just saying that because of the Christianity principle that tells us to be humble, I truly, genuinely, believe this.

My problem in general is that I tell myself that "God will make my life great. It just may not be this instant, or the way I want it." Doesn't this seem about right?
God has his hand on your life and as a new believer, he will help you through various stages of your walk with him into maturity.

So I sometimes tell myself; My salvation is guaranteed, and so is God's love for me. But everything else, they most likely won't happen.

Well then I go on to not worry about any of my human struggles and desires. After all, Jesus told us not to worry.

But does this mean apathy? I do not worry, but I do not feel like I care either.
No... what is means is that you are at the beginning of an awesome path that will eventually lead you to throw off those things that hinder you in your desire for a closer, personal relationship with God. This process is called sanctification. Every believer walks this path and no-one is exempt from it until they reach those pearly gates

So I tell myself that I must care. That I must feel something to make sure I'm not being apathetic. And then I get really lost and confused.

I told myself that you can care, as long as you feel the holy spirit's presence in replace of your human emotions that tell you that you care. But I cannot feel God's presence at all times. I realize that when I give all my life to God, I must really follow through. But sometimes I cannot. It is a terrible time when that times.
Well it's obvious that you care, otherwise you would not be struggling with these thoughts? :unsure: and we do not always feel God's presence in our lives...sometimes we must rely on what his word says when we struggle with decisions or direction. The bible gives us a picture of God's character, his character should shape our decisions. We apply the things we have learned from his word into our present day situations.

My most recent situation was when I trusted God with this girl I liked. I felt like I was maturing in faith; Before I used to perhaps think about her all the time and always feel a wave of pessimism when things didn't go my way. Now (or then at the time) I didn't pay her one thought in my mind for several days. And then I saw her at school; I was not sure if I had just distanced myself away from her by being apathetic instead of fully trusting in God. After all, I was not really following God during the time I was carefree. So now I am genuinely confused; What does it mean to truly trust God?
You are struggling with trusting God and leaving things in his hands with this girl and wondering whether you should be initiating something to kick-start some form of relationship. If you have a problem in this area ~ ie: you have been down this road before and it has not turned out as you had hoped, I would just leave it and trust God. Sometimes he saves us from things that could end up being disastrous because he knows things about people and things that are ahead of us before they ever happen. You can't go wrong trusting God.

Yesterday I felt I more or less completely or halfway abandoned my faith. I woke up, not with a heart ready to serve because I slept with Pagan influences from the night before. Then I dealt with my feelings immaturely. At this moment, I was susceptible to attack by the devil, when he twisted a ton of scripture for his purpose. I was feeling low, then I found confidence outside of God. And then, I confided in my old demons. (It is of free-thinking and intellect) And through that, I neglected all my duties to God.
I'm gonna tell you that this is normal as a new believer. It is a struggle in all believers as a matter of fact. It just gets easier as we mature. Our soul struggles with God's Spirit dwelling in us constantly [Galatians 5:16, 17] because our soul really wants to do what it likes...This is why God sent his Spirit into man after accepting salvation, to help us in our struggle against sin which wars in our soul.

And reading about Hell did not help either. I felt like I was turning away from God, and I needed to repent. But I was feeling so empty that I could not really repent.
Please repent and you will feel a weight lift off you. God does not expect us to have it all together. That is why he sent the Holy Spirit to help us become more like Jesus. It takes time and the process is a walk with God and being real with him through prayer and Thanksgiving. Just tell him where you are struggling and you will feel his peace and he will help you along the way.

So I spent about an hour in the night praying and reading and writing, then an hour this morning. I woke up feeling a bit better but I am no where near as full of spiritual fervor as before.
That is awesome! Don't be so hard on yourself brother, you are your worst critic but I can tell you that your efforts are not lost on God. He loves you and will continue to direct your steps. The bible tells us [Psalms 37:23, 24]

I guess I can justify this as a part of God's plan to wound my pride, or to remind me that I am sinful. But how may I avoid this? My faith is so weak. I pray that I am stronger. :(
Your faith is not weak brother...you feel weak because you had need to spend time in God's presence for something you are ashamed of...when you asked God for forgiveness, he forgave you right there and then but because we live in an earthly tent sometimes we have to physically feel that we have been forgiven and so we go down this road of pressing into God until the feelings of worthlessness/hopelessness/letting God down, subsides. You cannot avoid the things that you struggle with without it coming to the forefront to be addressed. When it appears, bring it before God, repent and ask him to help you to overcome it. This is the process of sanctification...We are sanctified in Christ from past sin and we are being sanctified in Christ where an area of our life has a stronghold or where we need to stop practicing a sinful act...

I will be praying for you as well ~ welcome aboard dear brother! :)
 

Doug_E_Fresh

gяελ нατ jεsμs ƒяεακ
Dec 7, 2013
101
8
18
31
Pennsylvania
dswdoctrine.wordpress.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Since no one has answered you yet,
What does it mean to truly trust God?
A:
Remember your old life without God. You made all of the plans, and made provisions to achieve your goals. How does this work with God leading you?
The answer to that comes from How we define faith:
NIV Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see."
So what does this have to do with trusting God?


So I sometimes tell myself; My salvation is guaranteed, and so is God's love for me. But everything else, they most likely won't happen.
Let's look for evidence of what God thinks about "everything else" and give this some context:
Matthew 6:25-34:
"25“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your lifee ?
28“And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."
When we read all of this together, this part should stick out: "33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well."

So does "all these things" include relationships as well? Let's look for more support.
Philipians 4:4-6
4Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! 5Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. 6Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

This helps us answer a couple questions:
  1. But does this mean apathy?
    A: No, you should be thankful for the salvation and things in your life that you have already been given, and submit requests to God about what you need, AND what you want.
  2. I told myself that you can care, as long as you feel the holy spirit's presence in replace of your human emotions that tell you that you care.
    A: This is not necessary because you're allowed to genuinely care about the outcome of the situation. It's natural to want relationships to work out, as example.
  3. And then I saw her at school; I was not sure if I had just distanced myself away from her by being apathetic instead of fully trusting in God.
    A: You can pursue any relationship you want (so long as you're doing it with the proper.. qualifications.. (don't burn me at the stake ye ole forum people..)). How you would trust God in this particular situation is: "God knows what's best for me and has pursued me, so I know that I need to be pursuing God. If I can pursue God while in/ through this relationship, I can probably pursue the relationship while in prayer about it. So, God will ultimately show me that this relationship is a good idea, or a bad idea. I just need to be willing to accept the answer that He gives me."

I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
- G
 

aspen

“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Apr 25, 2012
14,111
4,778
113
52
West Coast
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You are too caught up in your thoughts. It looks like you are feeling obligated to will God into existence and force yourself to buy into the Christian program. Mentally, you are playing Atlas.

The Good News is that God loves you whether you believe it or feel it or think about it. Being a Christian is really not about you, as an individual; instead, it is about you as a member of the Body of Christ. You and I are called to love God and each other, which culminates in our salvation.

Here are some ideas I like to remember

1. God does not need groupies or fans - His purpose is to redeem humanity into perfect lovers as we were created to be.
2. God is not a sugar daddy - He is working towards His will for you life (redemption into a perfect lover), not yours.
3. Being a Christian is not about knowing stuff - being a Christian is using the stuff you know to practice your sanctification by loving others.