Thanks for the input. So how will the little horn be recognized? Is there a particular event that will indicate the beginning of the 7 year tribulation?Straightshot said:
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Mark 9:1
And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”
Revelation 1:5-6
And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Daniel 2:44-45
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever, just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.”
Jesus the stone from Heaven that the "leaders" were crushed by... Even the Pharisees knew this verse was referring to them there at that moment;
Daniel 2:35
Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
(Mat 21:43) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Mat 21:44) And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
(Mat 21:45) And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
The Kingdom of God has grown in Christ, the Rock, for 2000 years now. It crushed the jews because of their unbelief.
There is only one thing that can save a jew, or anyone else, that is the Gospel of salvation.
I recommend that the Gospel be preached instead of speaking the faithlessness of Pharisees and their "physical kingdom" delusions, who only serve to be ground to powder and blown away as chaff in the wind.
Mark 9:1
And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”
Revelation 1:5-6
And from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood and made us a kingdom, priests to his God and Father, to him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Daniel 2:44-45
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, nor shall the kingdom be left to another people. It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever, just as you saw that a stone was cut from a mountain by no human hand, and that it broke in pieces the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold. A great God has made known to the king what shall be after this. The dream is certain, and its interpretation sure.”
Jesus the stone from Heaven that the "leaders" were crushed by... Even the Pharisees knew this verse was referring to them there at that moment;
Daniel 2:35
Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken in pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.
(Mat 21:43) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(Mat 21:44) And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
(Mat 21:45) And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
The Kingdom of God has grown in Christ, the Rock, for 2000 years now. It crushed the jews because of their unbelief.
There is only one thing that can save a jew, or anyone else, that is the Gospel of salvation.
I recommend that the Gospel be preached instead of speaking the faithlessness of Pharisees and their "physical kingdom" delusions, who only serve to be ground to powder and blown away as chaff in the wind.
"Thanks for the input. So how will the little horn be recognized? Is there a particular event that will indicate the beginning of the 7 year tribulation?"
Read the following scriptures about the coming little horn [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 11:36-45; 12:7; Revelation 13:1-4]
This one will come from small beginnings in the region of what is today Syria/Iraq [the same core region of the ancient Assyrian Empire in the Middle East]
The beginning of the tribulation is portrayed here [Revelation 6: 12-17] .... the first judgment event can be viewed here [Revelation 8:6-12; 14:8; 17:16-18; 18]
Read the following scriptures about the coming little horn [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 11:36-45; 12:7; Revelation 13:1-4]
This one will come from small beginnings in the region of what is today Syria/Iraq [the same core region of the ancient Assyrian Empire in the Middle East]
The beginning of the tribulation is portrayed here [Revelation 6: 12-17] .... the first judgment event can be viewed here [Revelation 8:6-12; 14:8; 17:16-18; 18]
So I'm guessing from the scriptures you listed you are saying that the "little horn" / "king of the north" of Daniel / "beast" of Rev, a.k.a the "AC" is going to be the next world dictator who is connected to the image of the beast. So somehow this person will set up a world government with a world economic system. He will set up his power base from the ME and declare himself as God. Is that right?Straightshot said:
Satan's beast in the human little horn will rise in northwest Mesopotamia at the time of the end of this present age according to the prophetic scriptures
His confederated kingdom will exist in the Middle East for a short time
He will not rule over the whole earth, but will cause devastating destruction against nations that will oppose him .... but his ending will come by the hand of the Lord at the battle of Armageddom
His confederated kingdom will exist in the Middle East for a short time
He will not rule over the whole earth, but will cause devastating destruction against nations that will oppose him .... but his ending will come by the hand of the Lord at the battle of Armageddom
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
Correct, in that the Anti-Christ won't initially rule all the world: he won't have control over Beulah, the new country in all of the Holy Land. Isaiah 62:1-5 But he will rule all the rest, Daniel 7:23Straightshot said:
The A.C. will make a 7 year peace treaty with Beulah, then he will break it halfway, thereby triggering the Great Trib. His army is destroyed by the Sword of the Word at the Return of Jesus.
I would also agree that the AC never controls all the world, but I believe he will dominate it. I see the 7 year covenant/peace treaty coming about due to a power shift among the western nations most likely due to a financial crash of the US Dollar/ecomony. At this time, because of the weakened state of the US, the AC will be able to put enough pressure on Israel to agree to the proposal being put forth. Once the 7 year covenant is in place the Jews will begin building the temple which would have been part of the deal in the covenant. After 3.5 years, possibly due to continual disputes between Israel and Palestine or his own plotting, he will break the covenant, invade Israel and set up the A of D in the temple. He will impose his "mark of the beast" economic system on the world and many countries will unite with him in their attempt to create a one world government. However, there will be enough nations that refuse to relinquish power to him that he will be plagued with wars and eventually he will gather together his forces at Armageddon for his last war.keras said:
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
Tktt, you are in a dream world, thinking you can just continue in your present lifestyle.
What is prophesied to happen is far more world changing than you, or most people realise. Just try to get some idea of how different things will be after the Lord's Day of wrath. Look up the many scriptures describing that Day.
After the extreme heat and fire, the terrible earthquakes, storms and tsunamis of that Day, the survivors will slowly recover and form a OWG. But we who love the Lord and keep His Commandments, will gather in all of the Holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-31 Great will be that time!
What is prophesied to happen is far more world changing than you, or most people realise. Just try to get some idea of how different things will be after the Lord's Day of wrath. Look up the many scriptures describing that Day.
After the extreme heat and fire, the terrible earthquakes, storms and tsunamis of that Day, the survivors will slowly recover and form a OWG. But we who love the Lord and keep His Commandments, will gather in all of the Holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-31 Great will be that time!
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
[SIZE=11pt]The Prophesies of Daniel[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:20-22 Blessed be God’s Name [Jesus] from age to age, for to Him belong wisdom and power. He changes seasons and times, He deposes and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those with discernment, revealing deep mysteries: in Him there is light and understanding. Proverbs 8:12-29[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:31-33 In your dream, your majesty, you saw a great image. The head of the image was of fine gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron and its feet of part iron, part clay. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Assyrian Kingdom[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – [Sargon][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:4 The first beast was like a lion with eagles wings, then its wings were removed and it stood on two feet like a human. It was given the mind of a human.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [This kingdom had already passed by the time of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. It conquered and sent into exile the ten Northern tribes of Israel][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Babylonian Kingdom[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – [Nebuchadnezzar][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:38 You king Nebuchadnezzar, are that head of gold.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:5 The second beast was like a bear, it raised itself up on one side and it had three ribs in its mouth. The command was given: Get up and gorge yourself on flesh. [The Babylonian conquest of Judah][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Media/Persian Kingdom [/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] [King Cyrus][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:32 & 39a...its chest and arms of silver...After you another kingdom will arise that will be inferior to yours[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:3-4 & 20 The ram with two horns, Persia and Media. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Macedonian [Greek] Kingdom[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] –. [Alexander the Great][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:32 & 39b ...its belly and thighs of bronze....Next a third kingdom of bronze will rule over the whole earth.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:6 The third beast was like a leopard with four wings like a bird, it had four heads and was given authority to rule. [Alexander’s conquest of the known world][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:5-8 & 20-21 The defeat of the Babylonian Empire, by Alexander. Daniel 11:2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:9-14 & 22 After Alexander’s death, four kingdoms are formed. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:3-4 One of those kings, Antiochus Epiphanes, succeeded in conquering the holy Land and he desecrated the Temple. 2 Maccabees 5:13-20 Then Judas Maccabaeus defeated him. 2 Maccabees 8:16-24 Then they rededicated the Temple. 2 Maccabees 10:1-8 The 2300 evenings and mornings; actually 1150 days, was the time between the desecration and rededication of the Temple, circa 167BC to 164BC. This is a precursor to what will happen in the last days. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:5-20 This is a description of other historical battles and alliances.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Roman Empire [/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]– [Julius Caesar][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:32-33 & 40 Finally there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, it will dominate all the others, but as its legs represent, this will be a divided kingdom – its people will be a mixture, it will not remain united. [The Western and Eastern Roman Empires][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:7a & 23 The fourth beast, fearsome and very powerful with great iron teeth, crushed and devoured its victims, then trampled what was left. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 9:26 After sixty two weeks, [434 years] the anointed Prince, [Jesus] will be removed and the army [of Rome] will destroy the city and the Temple. [As fulfilled in 70AD.] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]A Last Days resurgence of Rome[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – [the Anti Christ][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:33 & 42-43...its feet of part iron and part clay.... [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:7b-8 ... the fourth beast had ten horns, another horn grew up and uprooted three of the ten. That other horn was very imposing and spoke with great power. As I watched this horn waged war on the holy ones and defeated them.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:23-24 The explanation is this: This fourth kingdom will take over the whole earth, [The One World Government] The ten horns signify the ten divisions of the world, but another man will arise and defeat three of the first leaders. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:21 Another king will come, a person not worthy of recognition, but he will seize power by intrigue and cunning. [a clever and charismatic man][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:23-25 In the last days, when sin is at its height, a powerful king and a master of strategy will arise. He will succeed in whatever he does and will take control of the nations and the holy people. By cunning and deceit, he will destroy many when they felt secure and did not expect it. He will challenge the ‘Prince of princes’, [the Lord] yet he will be defeated, but not by human hand. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 9:27 The prince, [World leader, descended from Rome] will make a treaty with many, [that is: not all of the Israelites] for one week, [that is: seven years] but at the mid point, he will put a stop to the sacrifices and offerings. [in the new Temple] He will place an ‘abomination’ there, then in the end what has been decreed will come on him. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:25 He will defy God and take control of the holy people for 3½ years. [This is the ‘beast’ of Revelation 13:1-8. The One World leader receives a ‘mortal blow’ and his body is taken over by Satan, commencing the ‘forty two months’ Tribulation period][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:22-45 His army will be victorious and a leader of the Covenant people will be killed. The military forces of the South will be defeated and he will invade the Middle East, but ships of the Western nations will oppose him, so he will turn back. In the holy Land, he will vent his fury against the people who hold to the Covenant, but will show favour to those who forsake it by believing his promises. His soldiers will desecrate the Temple, setting up an ‘abomination of desolation’. Those of the Israelites who remain faithful to the Lord, will be resolute and take action. Wise leaders of the nation will guide their people, though for a time some may be killed or captured. They will receive a little help, even if many who join them are insincere. This is a period of testing, of refining and purification, for the end is yet to be; at the appointed time. Daniel 7:9, Daniel 8:22[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:36-45 This powerful world ruler will do as he pleases, he will promote himself as god, uttering terrible blasphemies. Things will go well for him until the time of wrath is completed. [The Tribulation] Near the end, the leader of a Southern confederation will attempt to attack him, so he storms out in full force, sweeping all before him, including the holy Land. He will take control of all Arabia and take their treasure. Then, alarmed by rumours from the North and East, he will hurriedly go back to Israel and camp in the valley of Megiddo, where he will meet his end. Daniel 7:11, Revelation 19:17-21[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Kingdom of Jesus[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – 2 Samuel 22:32[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:34-35 & 44-45 I saw a supernatural Rock that smashed the statue, it blew it away like chaff. Then that Rock became a huge mountain that filled the whole earth. God will set up a Kingdom that will be supreme over all other kingdoms and it will endure forever.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:13-14 & 26-27 The Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign. Gods judgement is against the Anti Christ and his kingdom is abolished. The governance of the whole world is given to the holy people of God. Daniel 7:13-14[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 12:1-4 At the end of that time, [the Tribulation] Michael, the Archangel of Israel will appear, he will deliver the Lord’s people – everyone whose name is written in the Book of Life. Many of the dead will rise, some to eternal life, some to eternal abhorrence. The wise leaders, those who guided the people on the true path, will shine like stars forever. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] But you, Daniel, keep this book sealed until the time of the end. Many will try, but will not succeed to gain this knowledge.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 12:5-10 I asked: How long until the end of these things? It will be for 3½ years, [1260 days] when the holy people regain their strength. I asked: What will the outcome of all this be? Go your way, Daniel, for these prophesies are to be kept secret until the time of the end. Many people will be purified and made righteous, but the godless will keep on in their wickedness and none of them will understand. Daniel 8:22[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 12:11-12 From the time the Anti Christ sets up the ‘abomination of desolation’, there will be 1290 days. Blessed are those who see the completion of 1335 days![/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. some verses condensed. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:20-22 Blessed be God’s Name [Jesus] from age to age, for to Him belong wisdom and power. He changes seasons and times, He deposes and sets up kings. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those with discernment, revealing deep mysteries: in Him there is light and understanding. Proverbs 8:12-29[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:31-33 In your dream, your majesty, you saw a great image. The head of the image was of fine gold, its chest and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze, its legs of iron and its feet of part iron, part clay. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Assyrian Kingdom[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – [Sargon][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:4 The first beast was like a lion with eagles wings, then its wings were removed and it stood on two feet like a human. It was given the mind of a human.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] [This kingdom had already passed by the time of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream. It conquered and sent into exile the ten Northern tribes of Israel][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Babylonian Kingdom[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – [Nebuchadnezzar][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:38 You king Nebuchadnezzar, are that head of gold.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:5 The second beast was like a bear, it raised itself up on one side and it had three ribs in its mouth. The command was given: Get up and gorge yourself on flesh. [The Babylonian conquest of Judah][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Media/Persian Kingdom [/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] [King Cyrus][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:32 & 39a...its chest and arms of silver...After you another kingdom will arise that will be inferior to yours[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:3-4 & 20 The ram with two horns, Persia and Media. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Macedonian [Greek] Kingdom[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] –. [Alexander the Great][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:32 & 39b ...its belly and thighs of bronze....Next a third kingdom of bronze will rule over the whole earth.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:6 The third beast was like a leopard with four wings like a bird, it had four heads and was given authority to rule. [Alexander’s conquest of the known world][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:5-8 & 20-21 The defeat of the Babylonian Empire, by Alexander. Daniel 11:2[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:9-14 & 22 After Alexander’s death, four kingdoms are formed. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:3-4 One of those kings, Antiochus Epiphanes, succeeded in conquering the holy Land and he desecrated the Temple. 2 Maccabees 5:13-20 Then Judas Maccabaeus defeated him. 2 Maccabees 8:16-24 Then they rededicated the Temple. 2 Maccabees 10:1-8 The 2300 evenings and mornings; actually 1150 days, was the time between the desecration and rededication of the Temple, circa 167BC to 164BC. This is a precursor to what will happen in the last days. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:5-20 This is a description of other historical battles and alliances.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Roman Empire [/SIZE][SIZE=11pt]– [Julius Caesar][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:32-33 & 40 Finally there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron, it will dominate all the others, but as its legs represent, this will be a divided kingdom – its people will be a mixture, it will not remain united. [The Western and Eastern Roman Empires][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:7a & 23 The fourth beast, fearsome and very powerful with great iron teeth, crushed and devoured its victims, then trampled what was left. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 9:26 After sixty two weeks, [434 years] the anointed Prince, [Jesus] will be removed and the army [of Rome] will destroy the city and the Temple. [As fulfilled in 70AD.] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]A Last Days resurgence of Rome[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – [the Anti Christ][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:33 & 42-43...its feet of part iron and part clay.... [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:7b-8 ... the fourth beast had ten horns, another horn grew up and uprooted three of the ten. That other horn was very imposing and spoke with great power. As I watched this horn waged war on the holy ones and defeated them.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:23-24 The explanation is this: This fourth kingdom will take over the whole earth, [The One World Government] The ten horns signify the ten divisions of the world, but another man will arise and defeat three of the first leaders. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:21 Another king will come, a person not worthy of recognition, but he will seize power by intrigue and cunning. [a clever and charismatic man][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 8:23-25 In the last days, when sin is at its height, a powerful king and a master of strategy will arise. He will succeed in whatever he does and will take control of the nations and the holy people. By cunning and deceit, he will destroy many when they felt secure and did not expect it. He will challenge the ‘Prince of princes’, [the Lord] yet he will be defeated, but not by human hand. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 9:27 The prince, [World leader, descended from Rome] will make a treaty with many, [that is: not all of the Israelites] for one week, [that is: seven years] but at the mid point, he will put a stop to the sacrifices and offerings. [in the new Temple] He will place an ‘abomination’ there, then in the end what has been decreed will come on him. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:25 He will defy God and take control of the holy people for 3½ years. [This is the ‘beast’ of Revelation 13:1-8. The One World leader receives a ‘mortal blow’ and his body is taken over by Satan, commencing the ‘forty two months’ Tribulation period][/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:22-45 His army will be victorious and a leader of the Covenant people will be killed. The military forces of the South will be defeated and he will invade the Middle East, but ships of the Western nations will oppose him, so he will turn back. In the holy Land, he will vent his fury against the people who hold to the Covenant, but will show favour to those who forsake it by believing his promises. His soldiers will desecrate the Temple, setting up an ‘abomination of desolation’. Those of the Israelites who remain faithful to the Lord, will be resolute and take action. Wise leaders of the nation will guide their people, though for a time some may be killed or captured. They will receive a little help, even if many who join them are insincere. This is a period of testing, of refining and purification, for the end is yet to be; at the appointed time. Daniel 7:9, Daniel 8:22[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 11:36-45 This powerful world ruler will do as he pleases, he will promote himself as god, uttering terrible blasphemies. Things will go well for him until the time of wrath is completed. [The Tribulation] Near the end, the leader of a Southern confederation will attempt to attack him, so he storms out in full force, sweeping all before him, including the holy Land. He will take control of all Arabia and take their treasure. Then, alarmed by rumours from the North and East, he will hurriedly go back to Israel and camp in the valley of Megiddo, where he will meet his end. Daniel 7:11, Revelation 19:17-21[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]The Kingdom of Jesus[/SIZE][SIZE=11pt] – 2 Samuel 22:32[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 2:34-35 & 44-45 I saw a supernatural Rock that smashed the statue, it blew it away like chaff. Then that Rock became a huge mountain that filled the whole earth. God will set up a Kingdom that will be supreme over all other kingdoms and it will endure forever.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 7:13-14 & 26-27 The Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign. Gods judgement is against the Anti Christ and his kingdom is abolished. The governance of the whole world is given to the holy people of God. Daniel 7:13-14[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 12:1-4 At the end of that time, [the Tribulation] Michael, the Archangel of Israel will appear, he will deliver the Lord’s people – everyone whose name is written in the Book of Life. Many of the dead will rise, some to eternal life, some to eternal abhorrence. The wise leaders, those who guided the people on the true path, will shine like stars forever. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt] But you, Daniel, keep this book sealed until the time of the end. Many will try, but will not succeed to gain this knowledge.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 12:5-10 I asked: How long until the end of these things? It will be for 3½ years, [1260 days] when the holy people regain their strength. I asked: What will the outcome of all this be? Go your way, Daniel, for these prophesies are to be kept secret until the time of the end. Many people will be purified and made righteous, but the godless will keep on in their wickedness and none of them will understand. Daniel 8:22[/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Daniel 12:11-12 From the time the Anti Christ sets up the ‘abomination of desolation’, there will be 1290 days. Blessed are those who see the completion of 1335 days![/SIZE]
[SIZE=11pt]Reference: REB, NIV, KJV. some verses condensed. [/SIZE]
Oh, I don't think "all things will continue as they were". (2 Peter 3:4) I'm expecting things to get pretty bad. If it's in the form of an economic crisis this will affect everything and everyone. I'm expecting something much worse than the great depression. If it's not a financial crisis, whatever happens to bring about a power shift and put the AC into a position of dominance, I believe it will bring drastic change, especially in the US. I'm also a post-triber. So if it happens in my life time, which it may, I'm expecting a pretty rough ride going through the trib since it will be "a time of trouble such as was not since the beginning of the world..., no nor ever shall be." So I'm definitely not expecting business to carry on as usual.keras said:
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
Tktt, actually; provided you were deemed righteous and included in the group referred to as the 'woman' in Rev. 12, then you will be taken to a place of safety and won't experience the Great tribulation at all. That is the 'rapture' you look forward to.
But first, it is the Lord's Day [a literal Day] of His vengeance and wrath, that we should be aware of and prepared for. You say 'drastic change', you are right and the loss of all of our modern infrastructure will surely be that!
Concerning America, Isaiah 18 gives us a grim picture of your future.
But first, it is the Lord's Day [a literal Day] of His vengeance and wrath, that we should be aware of and prepared for. You say 'drastic change', you are right and the loss of all of our modern infrastructure will surely be that!
Concerning America, Isaiah 18 gives us a grim picture of your future.
Well, I would interpret Rev 12 to infer the Church in general and that many of us will be hid in the "wilderness" of the nations that rebel against the AC reign. It's clear to me, though, that "some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge , and to make them white, even until the time of the end: ..." Dan 11:35. And that "it was given unto him to make war against the saints and to overcome them". Rev 13:7. "... and shall wear out the saints of the Most High...and they shall be given into his hands until a time and times and the dividing of time." Dan 7:25. This to me is the Church going through the tribulation. If this turns out to be the wrong interpretation I'll be more than happy to escape the trib. However, I don't think that's the way it will happen.keras said:
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
Understanding the end times events is very difficult unless a correct sequence of what will happen is sorted out.
We see in Zechariah 14:1-2, that the Holy Land is invaded and half of the people go into exile. Before that, the Sixth Seal/ Psalm 83 punishment of the nations occurs and the holy Land is cleared and cleansed for the gathering and settling of all true believers there. Ezekiel 20:34-38
So it is the Lord's righteous people who are inhabiting the Land when the AC comes. Daniel 7:25
From Daniel 11:32, we see two types of people in the Land at that time: Those who violate the Covenant and those who are faithful to their God.
The former stay in the Land and go thru the GT, the latter are the 'woman' of Rev 12, in an exile place of safety, for 1260 days.
The former are still the Lord's people, but must face further testing, they made a covenant with death. Isaiah 28:18
The latter will be gathered back to the Land when Jesus Returns.
We see in Zechariah 14:1-2, that the Holy Land is invaded and half of the people go into exile. Before that, the Sixth Seal/ Psalm 83 punishment of the nations occurs and the holy Land is cleared and cleansed for the gathering and settling of all true believers there. Ezekiel 20:34-38
So it is the Lord's righteous people who are inhabiting the Land when the AC comes. Daniel 7:25
From Daniel 11:32, we see two types of people in the Land at that time: Those who violate the Covenant and those who are faithful to their God.
The former stay in the Land and go thru the GT, the latter are the 'woman' of Rev 12, in an exile place of safety, for 1260 days.
The former are still the Lord's people, but must face further testing, they made a covenant with death. Isaiah 28:18
The latter will be gathered back to the Land when Jesus Returns.
OK, so first comes the Sixth Seal solar flare (can't remember the exact term) where the holy land is cleared and cleansed? When does the gathering and settling happen? Then there is a war where Israel is invaded and half the people go into exile? Have I got that right?keras said:
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
Yes, the next prophesied event will be the Sixth Seal, Psalm 83, Micah 4:11:12, 2 Peter 3:7 and over 100 other prophesies that detail the terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath against the nations. The Lord will literally fulfil all those graphic prophesies by the means of a massive CME and virtually the entire Middle East will be cleared and cleansed. Ezekiel 30:2-5 The Lord's righteous people will go to live there. Isaiah 66:15-21toknowthetruth said:
A further test for His people is whether they agree to a treaty with the leader of the rest of the world. To agree is death, Isaiah 28:18, to oppose it is life, Daniel 11:32-35
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OK. So if things happen according to your interpretation and I'm still alive after the first event I should be on the look out for the AC's confirming of the 7 year covenant as the next coming end-time event. Right? Personally I see the the covenant happening next and how I interpret the Lord's day (not the same as you) happening at the end of the trib. But I guess we'll know for sure sooner or later when it all starts happening. Thanks.keras said:
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
Things will happen according to what the Prophetic Word tells us.
You will surely know the Day the Lord takes action! But the secular world will think it [a Coronal Mass Ejection] was just a natural disaster.
Rev. 6:17 says the Day of the Lord's wrath happens at the Sixth Seal. How do you construe that to the end of the Trib? Seals must be removed before a scroll is opened and thinking the Seals are just pronouncements is not the way they were written.
Have you checked out my website?
You will surely know the Day the Lord takes action! But the secular world will think it [a Coronal Mass Ejection] was just a natural disaster.
Rev. 6:17 says the Day of the Lord's wrath happens at the Sixth Seal. How do you construe that to the end of the Trib? Seals must be removed before a scroll is opened and thinking the Seals are just pronouncements is not the way they were written.
Have you checked out my website?
Yes, I have checked out your website. Looks good. GBY for making your teachings available.keras said:
About the Seals, to me it's not a literal scroll, just a word picture He's giving, that's all.
keras
Writer of Bible study guides
I have written over 500 articles, most on Bible prophecy. My task is to point out what the prophets actually wrote and I use other scriptures, logic, common sense and modern knowledge to help explain the prophesies.toknowthetruth said:
With the prophesies; where a literal fulfilment is possible, I take that as what will actually happen and with allegories and metaphors, most often they are explained elsewhere or from hindsight and modern scientific knowledge, we can figure out their meanings.
So the 7 Seals are not just word pictures at all, the first five are now open, as we see from the things described having happened already. The next will be the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster; as 2 Peter 3:7 says.
It will be triggered by the commencement of an attack on Israel by the Islamic peoples. They will be wiped out, we then have the Lord's promises of our redemption and restoration. Ezekiel 34:11-31
If you're saying that the representations given in the 7 Seals are about real events, I would totally agree with you. The way I see the Seals themselves though, is that they are used as word pictures to package the presentation. They're not literal seals.keras said:
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