1. They integrate their new faith into their existing life, rationalizing their pursuit of perceived "needs" and desires. They even start claiming new "rights" as a believer.2. They are not part of the 1% remainder who are actually converted into righteous people as shown in Scripture. Scripture never mentions making a "decision for Christ."3. They become involved, even dedicated, to a local organized religion or denomination, become filled with its ideologies, learn some Scripture verses, learn how to sit and listen to a professional church talker. They then often select and occupy a superior spiritual attitude over other people. They learn how to arrogantly say to other people what they "must know," "must realize," "must believe," "must get ahold of," and "must remember." They like to presumptuously state what is "Key!!" in various statements made and in Scripture. They like to use the imperial pronouns "We" and "Our" to supposedly be representing an authoritative position within greater Evangelical Christendom while spouting their opinions.4. They remain unskilled at speaking to issues, but turn issue based discussions into personal exchanges, especially when they are losing an arguement.5. They are emotionally thin skinned, and get upset if their favored ideologies, called "beliefs," are ever so slightly challenged or examined with Scripture. They are unable to be corrected in their error, and cannot oppologize for their rude arrogance.6. They use their intuition and imaginations to add selectively favored ideologies into explanations of Scripture, such as parroting ideas from popularized preaching and humanly contrived statements from historic national documents.7. They are unable to answer questions with direct and clear statements, but use their special language of churchy sounding talk, even using "preacherese" if they are that good.8. They find a comfortable niche to fit into within their local church, without having to engage in any huge risks to themself, their money, their time, their energy, or their other priorities in life. They call it "ministry," or "being faithful," or "using their gift."9. They buy right into most of the promoted ideologies from the preacher, probably a professional church talker, as if he can be trusted to have figured out for them whatever they need to believe. They do little or no work by themself to apprehend God's Word for themself.10. They like to talk about "What God means to me!", or "What Jesus does for me!", or how "Jesus lives in my heart!" Scripture never states such a thing as "Jesus living in someone's heart." That is a twisted view of various verses which speak of our realtionship with Jesus.Shelli.
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Good post. It hurts me some times to see a lukewarm person. But I have a little trouble with that myself sometimes.
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Actually, I have to agree with most of Shelli's post, and almost sounds British-Israel, except I know that the originator of this post does not believe in that, either.But on a positive note, although I was challenged on another thread, for the record I am in a very small minority of Christians and arrived at what I believe in by my own personal study. So, I do not consider myself with the masses, although I was unfairly lumped in with them! We have to watch how we judge people, because when we do, others can see the very same tendencies in us! Or to put it psychologically, projecting our own tendencies in others.
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Actually, I have to agree with most of Shelli's post, and almost sounds British-Israel, except I know that the originator of this post does not believe in that, either.But on a positive note, although I was challenged on another thread, for the record I am in a very small minority of Christians and arrived at what I believe in by my own personal study. So, I do not consider myself with the masses, although I was unfairly lumped in with them! We have to watch how we judge people, because when we do, others can see the very same tendencies in us! Or to put it psychologically, projecting our own tendencies in others.
You talk about me, you toot your horn about yourself, you talk about what "we" should and should not do (just like I described in the thread above), and then you talk about the masses.If you cannot speak to the posted matter, do not talk.
Actually, I have to agree with most of Shelli's post, and almost sounds British-Israel, except I know that the originator of this post does not believe in that, either.But on a positive note, although I was challenged on another thread, for the record I am in a very small minority of Christians and arrived at what I believe in by my own personal study. So, I do not consider myself with the masses, although I was unfairly lumped in with them! We have to watch how we judge people, because when we do, others can see the very same tendencies in us! Or to put it psychologically, projecting our own tendencies in others.
You talk about me, you toot your horn about yourself, you talk about what "we" should and should not do (just like I described in the thread above), and then you talk about the masses.If you cannot speak to the posted matter, do not talk.
Shelli Tim From Pa's post was fine. And what you just said about 99% of the people is disturbing.Disturbing as you never expresed the joy that they found true lifeDisturbing as they try all these " false methods" and listen to all these " false teachings" as only a method to get closer to christdisturbing that you do not have enough faith in Jesus to give them true faith.disturbing that you probably fit into these 99%. in a different post You said yourself that your faith was your own and then said you don't care about the bible verse that says otherwise.Disturbing that in less then 500 words you managed to judge and condem lmost all your brothers and sisters.and disturbing that you can't even treat a person who responded to your forum in the right christian way.I urge you to find real christianity, because everything you posted, from saying that everybody isn't born equal ( basically the same belief as racism) that your faith is your own and god has nothing to do with it. and this one condemning all of chistianity. is not christian.Your saved, now start living the christian life.and be more alive then ever beforeYour brother in christRyan Fitz
" a downer"what are you canadian. Because that made no sense at all. what in the heck do you mean by that
and I thought Tim from pas post was bad.
at least he made sense.Move back to ontario.lol your brother in christ ( who doesn't live in canada) Ryan Fitz
and I thought Tim from pas post was bad.
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Shelli Tim From Pa's post was fine. And what you just said about 99% of the people is disturbing.Disturbing as you never expresed the joy that they found true lifeDisturbing as they try all these " false methods" and listen to all these " false teachings" as only a method to get closer to christdisturbing that you do not have enough faith in Jesus to give them true faith.disturbing that you probably fit into these 99%. in a different post You said yourself that your faith was your own and then said you don't care about the bible verse that says otherwise.Disturbing that in less then 500 words you managed to judge and condem lmost all your brothers and sisters.and disturbing that you can't even treat a person who responded to your forum in the right christian way.I urge you to find real christianity, because everything you posted, from saying that everybody isn't born equal ( basically the same belief as racism) that your faith is your own and god has nothing to do with it. and this one condemning all of chistianity. is not christian.Your saved, now start living the christian life.and be more alive then ever beforeYour brother in christRyan Fitz
Ryan,Do you use your feelings of being "disturbed" to make evaluations about spiritual things ... ?Shelli.
Shelli Tim From Pa's post was fine. And what you just said about 99% of the people is disturbing.Disturbing as you never expresed the joy that they found true lifeDisturbing as they try all these " false methods" and listen to all these " false teachings" as only a method to get closer to christdisturbing that you do not have enough faith in Jesus to give them true faith.disturbing that you probably fit into these 99%. in a different post You said yourself that your faith was your own and then said you don't care about the bible verse that says otherwise.Disturbing that in less then 500 words you managed to judge and condem lmost all your brothers and sisters.and disturbing that you can't even treat a person who responded to your forum in the right christian way.I urge you to find real christianity, because everything you posted, from saying that everybody isn't born equal ( basically the same belief as racism) that your faith is your own and god has nothing to do with it. and this one condemning all of chistianity. is not christian.Your saved, now start living the christian life.and be more alive then ever beforeYour brother in christRyan Fitz
Ryan,Do you use your feelings of being "disturbed" to make evaluations about spiritual things ... ?Shelli.
shellido you use your "man made" faith to make spiritual evaluations.Do you really want to get into this game shelli. where we start throwing insults at each other trying to determine whos the better christianbecause let me tell you I'm no better then you. We are both a part of christ and we are both sinners who stray away like lost sheep.and I really don't want to be into an insult battle with my own sister. ( or brother.)If that last post offended you I'm sorry, I'm just pointing out what I see, which is that christianity is a faith which you haven't fully gotten yet. And I just want to help you grow closer to him.Thats all.this isn't a sick contest to show you that you are a horrible christian.This is trying to get you to become a better christian.Letsgofishing for a stronger faithRyan Fitz
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Doctor! What is this a case of?This person has an extreme case of ICLDSM, which is Impacted Coleoptera at the lower digestive sphincter muscle. Plus, there does not seem to be a funny bone in the entire body. Here. This is my Rx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1y_j7G-7s
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shellido you use your "man made" faith to make spiritual evaluations.Do you really want to get into this game shelli. where we start throwing insults at each other trying to determine whos the better christianbecause let me tell you I'm no better then you. We are both a part of christ and we are both sinners who stray away like lost sheep.and I really don't want to be into an insult battle with my own sister. ( or brother.)If that last post offended you I'm sorry, I'm just pointing out what I see, which is that christianity is a faith which you haven't fully gotten yet. And I just want to help you grow closer to him.Thats all.this isn't a sick contest to show you that you are a horrible christian.This is trying to get you to become a better christian.Letsgofishing for a stronger faithRyan Fitz
Ryan,If you cannot provide any leadership, as you indicated by saying you were no better a Christian than me, why should I "fish for a stronger faith" with you?Why do you try to change this issue based thread into a personal exchange?Can you point out which part of my faith is "man made?" If you can, then do it. If you cannot, then repent of your empty remark.Shelli.
shellido you use your "man made" faith to make spiritual evaluations.Do you really want to get into this game shelli. where we start throwing insults at each other trying to determine whos the better christianbecause let me tell you I'm no better then you. We are both a part of christ and we are both sinners who stray away like lost sheep.and I really don't want to be into an insult battle with my own sister. ( or brother.)If that last post offended you I'm sorry, I'm just pointing out what I see, which is that christianity is a faith which you haven't fully gotten yet. And I just want to help you grow closer to him.Thats all.this isn't a sick contest to show you that you are a horrible christian.This is trying to get you to become a better christian.Letsgofishing for a stronger faithRyan Fitz
Ryan,If you cannot provide any leadership, as you indicated by saying you were no better a Christian than me, why should I "fish for a stronger faith" with you?Why do you try to change this issue based thread into a personal exchange?Can you point out which part of my faith is "man made?" If you can, then do it. If you cannot, then repent of your empty remark.Shelli.
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1. They integrate their new faith into their existing life, rationalizing their pursuit of perceived "needs" and desires. They even start claiming new "rights" as a believer.Galatians 3: 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.Looks like a precedent was set to claim such rights.2. They are not part of the 1% remainder who are actually converted into righteous people as shown in Scripture. Scripture never mentions making a "decision for Christ."True. The altar calls of today were hardly given out in the NT at all. Preaching the Gospel is the only presentation. It is by confessing their faith are they known as believers... as well as their love for others. Ephesians 1:12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 15Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.3. They become involved, even dedicated, to a local organized religion or denomination, become filled with its ideologies, learn some Scripture verses, learn how to sit and listen to a professional church talker. They then often select and occupy a superior spiritual attitude over other people. They learn how to arrogantly say to other people what they "must know," "must realize," "must believe," "must get ahold of," and "must remember." They like to presumptuously state what is "Key!!" in various statements made and in Scripture. They like to use the imperial pronouns "We" and "Our" to supposedly be representing an authoritative position within greater Evangelical Christendom while spouting their opinions.From making a decision to membership: certainly a man made call for a bondages that was not preached, but are you not making "key" points here to other people? Not sure how you can address points without making ones of your own. 4. They remain unskilled at speaking to issues, but turn issue based discussions into personal exchanges, especially when they are losing an arguement.You are probably referring to internet exchanges now. Seems like believers nowadays just follow the crowd in the churches, which is one of the reasons why I don't go. Keeping members is more important than keeping the faith or addressing a brother in a trespass in love to see that he or she is abiding in Him.5. They are emotionally thin skinned, and get upset if their favored ideologies, called "beliefs," are ever so slightly challenged or examined with Scripture. They are unable to be corrected in their error, and cannot oppologize for their rude arrogance.Sounds like internet exchanges again. Course, if this is happening in churches today, guess I wouldn't know. Still think everybody either gets along or they simply leave to find another church. I just gave up looking after the Lord sent the plumbline across the nation in 1994. Yes. That is claiming to have special knowledge... just like you are doing in posting this thread.6. They use their intuition and imaginations to add selectively favored ideologies into explanations of Scripture, such as parroting ideas from popularized preaching and humanly contrived statements from historic national documents.Wow. Make everybody afraid to open their mouths in expressing their view in their walk with the Lord. Not exactly sure how anyone can be corrected of their error if they do otherwise. Are you not using your intuition and imaginations to add selectively favored opinions and views into explanations of current day believers?7. They are unable to answer questions with direct and clear statements, but use their special language of churchy sounding talk, even using "preacherese" if they are that good.I notice how you sometimes avoid answering direct questions and making clear statements by use of your highly intellectual sounding talk to just keep putting the inquirer on the spot.8. They find a comfortable niche to fit into within their local church, without having to engage in any huge risks to themself, their money, their time, their energy, or their other priorities in life. They call it "ministry," or "being faithful," or "using their gift."That could be said by the niche you are creating for yourself by posting this thread. You may be the 1%, but where is the "clear" instructions to the question for those 99% that ask.. thus the need to do what? Where is the love for those that have gone astray according to your niche?9. They buy right into most of the promoted ideologies from the preacher, probably a professional church talker, as if he can be trusted to have figured out for them whatever they need to believe. They do little or no work by themself to apprehend God's Word for themself.Kind of a weak argument there as letters are written to the early churches to instruct and to remind them of their faith in Christ. That would classify Paul as a professional church talker, would it not, by acting as if the believers are in need of his letters? By the same token... so is the point for your thread?10. They like to talk about "What God means to me!", or "What Jesus does for me!", or how "Jesus lives in my heart!" Scripture never states such a thing as "Jesus living in someone's heart." That is a twisted view of various verses which speak of our realtionship with Jesus.It is true, but Jesus is gracious. He lives in more than the heart. Since this verse, though, you could not say that He doesn't since the heart is part of the body.2 Corinthians 13: 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?Shelli.
Aren't you being a bit over critical? I know. Because I use scriptures, I'm on the "outs" with you. I agree in that there is no power in that decision nor commitments, nor promises in making a believer a believer or a follower. I speak against it too, so that they may know that Jesus didn't look to them as if He had confidence in them. He wanted believers to trust Him to do His work in them and to follow Him by faith. That is a relationship in progress and as identified as His by that faith... not by a voiced decision nor a church membership which only shows the outward appearances towards man and of man, not towards God nor of God.I do love you in Christ Jesus, Shelli, but you go through all this trouble in making your points in seperating yourself from the 99% with no explaining the need to do otherwise to fit into that 1 % as to the "whys" and "hows" shows more seperation than outreach in love to see them abiding in Christ.May the Lord enable you to show that loving outreach by the use of your intellectual prowess, but my faith is in the Lord to cause the increase... not in your intellect. I know the Lord can use you and enable you to serve Him, but do all in the name of Christ... not the 1 %.
1. They integrate their new faith into their existing life, rationalizing their pursuit of perceived "needs" and desires. They even start claiming new "rights" as a believer.Galatians 3: 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.Looks like a precedent was set to claim such rights.2. They are not part of the 1% remainder who are actually converted into righteous people as shown in Scripture. Scripture never mentions making a "decision for Christ."True. The altar calls of today were hardly given out in the NT at all. Preaching the Gospel is the only presentation. It is by confessing their faith are they known as believers... as well as their love for others. Ephesians 1:12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. 15Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.3. They become involved, even dedicated, to a local organized religion or denomination, become filled with its ideologies, learn some Scripture verses, learn how to sit and listen to a professional church talker. They then often select and occupy a superior spiritual attitude over other people. They learn how to arrogantly say to other people what they "must know," "must realize," "must believe," "must get ahold of," and "must remember." They like to presumptuously state what is "Key!!" in various statements made and in Scripture. They like to use the imperial pronouns "We" and "Our" to supposedly be representing an authoritative position within greater Evangelical Christendom while spouting their opinions.From making a decision to membership: certainly a man made call for a bondages that was not preached, but are you not making "key" points here to other people? Not sure how you can address points without making ones of your own. 4. They remain unskilled at speaking to issues, but turn issue based discussions into personal exchanges, especially when they are losing an arguement.You are probably referring to internet exchanges now. Seems like believers nowadays just follow the crowd in the churches, which is one of the reasons why I don't go. Keeping members is more important than keeping the faith or addressing a brother in a trespass in love to see that he or she is abiding in Him.5. They are emotionally thin skinned, and get upset if their favored ideologies, called "beliefs," are ever so slightly challenged or examined with Scripture. They are unable to be corrected in their error, and cannot oppologize for their rude arrogance.Sounds like internet exchanges again. Course, if this is happening in churches today, guess I wouldn't know. Still think everybody either gets along or they simply leave to find another church. I just gave up looking after the Lord sent the plumbline across the nation in 1994. Yes. That is claiming to have special knowledge... just like you are doing in posting this thread.6. They use their intuition and imaginations to add selectively favored ideologies into explanations of Scripture, such as parroting ideas from popularized preaching and humanly contrived statements from historic national documents.Wow. Make everybody afraid to open their mouths in expressing their view in their walk with the Lord. Not exactly sure how anyone can be corrected of their error if they do otherwise. Are you not using your intuition and imaginations to add selectively favored opinions and views into explanations of current day believers?7. They are unable to answer questions with direct and clear statements, but use their special language of churchy sounding talk, even using "preacherese" if they are that good.I notice how you sometimes avoid answering direct questions and making clear statements by use of your highly intellectual sounding talk to just keep putting the inquirer on the spot.8. They find a comfortable niche to fit into within their local church, without having to engage in any huge risks to themself, their money, their time, their energy, or their other priorities in life. They call it "ministry," or "being faithful," or "using their gift."That could be said by the niche you are creating for yourself by posting this thread. You may be the 1%, but where is the "clear" instructions to the question for those 99% that ask.. thus the need to do what? Where is the love for those that have gone astray according to your niche?9. They buy right into most of the promoted ideologies from the preacher, probably a professional church talker, as if he can be trusted to have figured out for them whatever they need to believe. They do little or no work by themself to apprehend God's Word for themself.Kind of a weak argument there as letters are written to the early churches to instruct and to remind them of their faith in Christ. That would classify Paul as a professional church talker, would it not, by acting as if the believers are in need of his letters? By the same token... so is the point for your thread?10. They like to talk about "What God means to me!", or "What Jesus does for me!", or how "Jesus lives in my heart!" Scripture never states such a thing as "Jesus living in someone's heart." That is a twisted view of various verses which speak of our realtionship with Jesus.It is true, but Jesus is gracious. He lives in more than the heart. Since this verse, though, you could not say that He doesn't since the heart is part of the body.2 Corinthians 13: 5Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?Shelli.
Aren't you being a bit over critical? I know. Because I use scriptures, I'm on the "outs" with you. I agree in that there is no power in that decision nor commitments, nor promises in making a believer a believer or a follower. I speak against it too, so that they may know that Jesus didn't look to them as if He had confidence in them. He wanted believers to trust Him to do His work in them and to follow Him by faith. That is a relationship in progress and as identified as His by that faith... not by a voiced decision nor a church membership which only shows the outward appearances towards man and of man, not towards God nor of God.I do love you in Christ Jesus, Shelli, but you go through all this trouble in making your points in seperating yourself from the 99% with no explaining the need to do otherwise to fit into that 1 % as to the "whys" and "hows" shows more seperation than outreach in love to see them abiding in Christ.May the Lord enable you to show that loving outreach by the use of your intellectual prowess, but my faith is in the Lord to cause the increase... not in your intellect. I know the Lord can use you and enable you to serve Him, but do all in the name of Christ... not the 1 %.
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Doctor! What is this a case of?This person has an extreme case of ICLDSM, which is Impacted Coleoptera at the lower digestive sphincter muscle. Plus, there does not seem to be a funny bone in the entire body. Here. This is my Rx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1y_j7G-7s
Apparently, Timmie, you have lots of talk, but no answers.
Doctor! What is this a case of?This person has an extreme case of ICLDSM, which is Impacted Coleoptera at the lower digestive sphincter muscle. Plus, there does not seem to be a funny bone in the entire body. Here. This is my Rx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1y_j7G-7s
Apparently, Timmie, you have lots of talk, but no answers.
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Aren't you being a bit over critical? I know. Because I use scriptures, I'm on the "outs" with you. I agree in that there is no power in that decision nor commitments, nor promises in making a believer a believer or a follower. I speak against it too, so that they may know that Jesus didn't look to them as if He had confidence in them. He wanted believers to trust Him to do His work in them and to follow Him by faith. That is a relationship in progress and as identified as His by that faith... not by a voiced decision nor a church membership which only shows the outward appearances towards man and of man, not towards God nor of God.I do love you in Christ Jesus, Shelli, but you go through all this trouble in making your points in seperating yourself from the 99% with no explaining the need to do otherwise to fit into that 1 % as to the "whys" and "hows" shows more seperation than outreach in love to see them abiding in Christ.May the Lord enable you to show that loving outreach by the use of your intellectual prowess, but my faith is in the Lord to cause the increase... not in your intellect. I know the Lord can use you and enable you to serve Him, but do all in the name of Christ... not the 1 %.
How does your speaking the word "May" cause anything to happen? Is it anything more than a nice sounding sentiment, devoid of material action?
Aren't you being a bit over critical? I know. Because I use scriptures, I'm on the "outs" with you. I agree in that there is no power in that decision nor commitments, nor promises in making a believer a believer or a follower. I speak against it too, so that they may know that Jesus didn't look to them as if He had confidence in them. He wanted believers to trust Him to do His work in them and to follow Him by faith. That is a relationship in progress and as identified as His by that faith... not by a voiced decision nor a church membership which only shows the outward appearances towards man and of man, not towards God nor of God.I do love you in Christ Jesus, Shelli, but you go through all this trouble in making your points in seperating yourself from the 99% with no explaining the need to do otherwise to fit into that 1 % as to the "whys" and "hows" shows more seperation than outreach in love to see them abiding in Christ.May the Lord enable you to show that loving outreach by the use of your intellectual prowess, but my faith is in the Lord to cause the increase... not in your intellect. I know the Lord can use you and enable you to serve Him, but do all in the name of Christ... not the 1 %.
How does your speaking the word "May" cause anything to happen? Is it anything more than a nice sounding sentiment, devoid of material action?
Hi Shelli,
How does your speaking the word "May" cause anything to happen? Is it anything more than a nice sounding sentiment, devoid of material action?
It doesn't, but you never know if the Word coming out of you is from Him, especially when it lines up with scriptures.Matthew 10: 17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.And yet even so, it is still on God to cause the increase.2 Corinthians 3: 5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.1 Corinthians 3: 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
How does your speaking the word "May" cause anything to happen? Is it anything more than a nice sounding sentiment, devoid of material action?
It doesn't, but you never know if the Word coming out of you is from Him, especially when it lines up with scriptures.Matthew 10: 17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.And yet even so, it is still on God to cause the increase.2 Corinthians 3: 5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.1 Corinthians 3: 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
What do you want me to do Shelli.reprimand you for proclaiming yourself better then 99% of christians.Then turn around and say I'm a better christian then you.First off I would be lyingand I would be a hypocrite. I am not a leader ShelliJesus is the leader through me.and your remark about me making this into a personal forum, I'm sorry, but what about christianity isn't personal.but I'll try to keep it as non personal as possible if you prefer it that way.Your brother in christRyan Fitz
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Doctor! What is this a case of?This person has an extreme case of ICLDSM, which is Impacted Coleoptera at the lower digestive sphincter muscle. Plus, there does not seem to be a funny bone in the entire body. Here. This is my Rx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1y_j7G-7s
Now that was hysterical Tim
Doctor! What is this a case of?This person has an extreme case of ICLDSM, which is Impacted Coleoptera at the lower digestive sphincter muscle. Plus, there does not seem to be a funny bone in the entire body. Here. This is my Rx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud1y_j7G-7s
Now that was hysterical Tim
(Pariah;26067)
Hi Shelli,It doesn't, but you never know if the Word coming out of you is from Him, especially when it lines up with scriptures.Matthew 10: 17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.And yet even so, it is still on God to cause the increase.2 Corinthians 3: 5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.1 Corinthians 3: 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
I am so glad you can quote some Scripture, for whatever purpose ...Do these Scriptures have anything to do with you?Have a nice time this week.
Hi Shelli,It doesn't, but you never know if the Word coming out of you is from Him, especially when it lines up with scriptures.Matthew 10: 17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.And yet even so, it is still on God to cause the increase.2 Corinthians 3: 5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.1 Corinthians 3: 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
I am so glad you can quote some Scripture, for whatever purpose ...Do these Scriptures have anything to do with you?Have a nice time this week.
(Letsgofishing;26079)
What do you want me to do Shelli.reprimand you for proclaiming yourself better then 99% of christians.Then turn around and say I'm a better christian then you.First off I would be lyingand I would be a hypocrite. I am not a leader ShelliJesus is the leader through me.and your remark about me making this into a personal forum, I'm sorry, but what about christianity isn't personal.but I'll try to keep it as non personal as possible if you prefer it that way.Your brother in christRyan Fitz
Ryan, Did I say or infer that I was "bwtter then 99% of Christians?" Or, did you assume I said that, like woman assumes things with her "intuition?"Did you forget you were the first to turn our exchange into a personal discussion? Can you talk about issues without relating every part of the discussion to yourself, like a woman does ... ?
What do you want me to do Shelli.reprimand you for proclaiming yourself better then 99% of christians.Then turn around and say I'm a better christian then you.First off I would be lyingand I would be a hypocrite. I am not a leader ShelliJesus is the leader through me.and your remark about me making this into a personal forum, I'm sorry, but what about christianity isn't personal.but I'll try to keep it as non personal as possible if you prefer it that way.Your brother in christRyan Fitz
Ryan, Did I say or infer that I was "bwtter then 99% of Christians?" Or, did you assume I said that, like woman assumes things with her "intuition?"Did you forget you were the first to turn our exchange into a personal discussion? Can you talk about issues without relating every part of the discussion to yourself, like a woman does ... ?
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