Know Thy Enemy

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Christina

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I have posted this before but decided to make a thread out of it for a reasonLately there has been much disagreement on this site about Gen. 6 and Nephelium and fallen angels mating with woman. This thread is not about that per say but I do want to say a couple of things about it the believe in this doctrine is probably about 50/50 among Christians. the other belief is that they are son of Seth either doctrine has some problems. The fact is its in the past so it doesn't much affect us. So why does our site continue to insist upon it? Well we do absolutely believe it is the Word of God and can not be denied but there is a more important reason that effects every single one of you.And that is Whether you believe Gen 6. to be angles or not that fact is We are told in Rev. that Satan will be kicked down to earth and he will have the key to the bottomless pit to release the Angels that rebelled with him upon the inhabitants of earth This is a future event that happens in the 5th/6th trump SATAN AND HIS FALLEN ANGELS WILL BE HERE DEFACTO ON EARTH SOONthis is why it is important to fix this fallen angel idea in your mind for we are told the delusion they will cause is so great that if God did not shorten the time even the very Elect would be fooled if it were possible God will not allow it to be possible by shortening the time they are here.Now if you refuse to believe the type God gave us in Gen.6 your choicebut the concern of this staff is to prepare you for what is soon to happen.I suggest you read Rev.9 and start getting to know your enemy because all the denial in the world of Gen6. is not going to change what will happen to this last Gen. The Generation of the Fig Tree. Know thy enemyGod did not create Satan. God created Lucifer, the highest angel in God’s angelic kingdom. Lucifer was the anointed cherub (Ezekiel 28:14; Isaiah 14:12,13). Lucifer then of his own free will wanted to be God and receive worship as God. Through his pride and vanity, he fell and became Satan. This event caused a catastropic event to the Original earth to throw it into a state of chaos.Other titles for fallen Lucifer, now Satan: Satan, meaning - the Adversary, Devil - the slanderer, Apollyon - the destroyer, Beelzebub - the prince of demons, Belial - the low, abject one, The Wicked One, The God of This World, The Prince of Darkness, The Dragon, The Tormentor, The Accuser, The Deceiver, The Liar, the Murderer, He that hath the power of death, Abaddon, The Enemy, The Prince of this World, The Tempter.There are a number of Fallen Angels that rebelled with him: Rev. 12:4,9. These angels along with Satan will be imprisoned in the lake of fire for eternal torment.Lucifer’s Reign - The anointed cherub that covereth. God’s most high priest in the mountain of God. Isaiah 14:12-14; Ezekiel 28:13-17. Lucifer was the highest ranking angel that God created. Lucifer and the other angles were created some time before the foundation of the world (Job 38:1-7) Here are the titles and ranks of other Angels found in scripture:Another resourcefor you to study about Angels is a book called “All the Angels in the Bible” by Herbert Lockyer, Jr. This is a rewrite of the original work by his father “The Mystery and Ministry of Angels”. You can purchase this book at Amazon.comSeraphim - Isa. 6:1-7, Psa.24:1, 72:19; Exod. 3:6; Job 4:18, 15:15; I Kings 19:13Cherubim - Ezek. 1:5-18, 10:12, Gen. 3:24Archangels - Jude 9 (Michael, Gabriel)Angels - over 300 times in bible Sons of God - Gen 6:1,2; Job 38:7; Dan. 3:25-28Sons of the Mighty - Ps. 29:1, 89:6,7, 103:20; Isa. 13:3; Joel 3:11 Ps. 103:20; Ps.104:4; Dan. 9:21; Heb. 1:7.Watchers/Keepers - Dan. 4:13-17; Isa. 62:6 Holy Ones - Zech. 14:5; Matt. 25:31; Isa 6:1-3; Dan. 8:13Princes - Dan. 10:13,20,21; 12:1; John 12:31, 14:30, 16:11, Eph. 2:2Thrones - Col. 1:16,Rev. 4:2-11Dominions - Col. 1:16 Powers - Col. 1:16Principalities - Col. 1:16; Eph. 1:21; Col. 2:10; Eph. 6:12The number of Angels created is not exactly known however, the Bible gives us a few hints in Dan. 7:10 and Rev. 5:11. What is the strength of an Angel? Here is one example in 2 Kings 19:20,21,35. What should our relationship be to Angels? Please read Col 2:18; Col 2:8-10; Eph 6:10-12; Eph 1:17-21; I Tim 2:5__________
 

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Revelation 12:7 "And there was war in heaven: Mi'-cha-el and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,,"This event brings us back into heaven. The war is between Satan [the dragon] and his angels, who are fighting against Michael and his angels. Satan will lose. Revelation 12:8 "And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."This is the time of the sounding of the fifth trumpet, when Satan and his fallen angels are released upon the earth for the final s period, spoken of in Revelation 9:5, 10. Satan will be here on earth deceiving all mankind, then go to the pit for the thousand years. After that thousand years, Satan [not his fallen angels] will be released for a short period, then go to perdition [perish]. Once Satan is kicked out of heaven, he will not be allowed to return. Today Satan is in heaven accusing the saints before the Lord. This is prophesy that will come in the very near future. Revelation 12:9 "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Sa'-tan, which deceived the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."This is the man of sin, son of pertition that 2 Thess. tells us must come before the return of our Lord at the 7th trumpLuk 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
 

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Ezek 28:12-1812 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus,(another name for Satan) and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.(he was made perfect the full pattern of the Angels given great Wisdom)13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee
 

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Isaiah 14:12-15Isaiah 14:12 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!Isaiah 14:13 - For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:Isaiah 14:14 - I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.Isaiah 14:15 - Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
 

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Hi kriss,
this is why it is important to fix this fallen angel idea in your mind for we are told the delusion they will cause is so great that if God did not shorten the time even the very Elect would be fooled if it were possible God will not allow it to be possible by shortening the time they are here.
I don't know how you got that out of Revelation, but the seal of the devil is that mark of the beast, is it not? The strong delusion part is happening now... you just haven't ask the Lord for confirmation that tongues without interpretation is the strong delusion for believing a lie in seeking another spirit to receive it... thus departing from the faith in seeking for the Holy Spirit to come or to fill again...when He is in us as we are filled, preserved and thus saved as in sealed as His. If you look at the strong delusion in opposition to the faith in context: 2 Thessalonians 2:9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. Now you may say I am judging but as you quoted Revelation about Satan and his angels being kicked out and no longer found in Heaven anymore, remember about the door being shut about the marriage supper? Really think there is no pre-tribulation harvest now? Really think the hour on the earth to try them left behind is not by the seal of the devil being forced upon the earth?And what? Believers that speak in tongues without interpretation by seeking another spirit are damned? But Jesus says He will not lose one, but yet because of false prophets, many shall be led astray. Because they were not ready nor abiding in Him, they got left behind as the Father chastens every child He receives, so does this happen to the prodigal son.. the loss of the first inheritance for once that door is shut, that is the damnation.. the loss of inheritance. It can never be had again. The loss is so great, God has to wipe the tears from their eyes to help them get passed it.But let's forget about the rapture. I digress. Just sharing about where this strong delusion applies to for beliving a "lie" in opposition to the love of the truth.So let's talk about the fallen angels that are bound for intermingling with mankind. Are you saying that all those fallen angels are bound now for doing this? And yet we read that there were giants in the earth even afterwards, right? So there are still fallen angels intermingling with mankind, yes? Are they still lose? How is judgment given when they intermingle? The very first time or...? I know. Not a fair question. I just wondered how God can set the decree for those that intermingled to be bound for intermingling and yet when it continues... when do they get bound? I am finding evidence of the "intermingling" still going on if we look at results, and no.. I'm not talking about Shaq. At the link below.http://s8int.com/giants1.htmlSo... are fallen angels still messing around now and for what purpose? Jesus Christ has come, died and risen.I agree that we are to know our enemy, but if we know Him and have the love of the truth, then we shall not follow the stranger's voice.. and you gotta admit... tongues without interpretation is a stranger's voice. We are living in perilous times now as in after the tribulation of those days then the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not show its light. Then it goes to the signs before it besides the false prophets as in people will be marrying and given in marriage.. buying and selling...eating and drinking and being merry... no danger of the mark of the beast yet... and then wham. That door is shut.Anyway, consider that to take to the Lord in prayer as the call is to be ready and discern everything and apply when it is applicable by the scriptures.As it is, fallen angels mixing with mankind are fables to me now. I trust Jesus to be My Good Shepherd. From what I gather during that hour of trial upon the earth.. it is the mark of the beast that will be the testing ... not the danger of mingling with fallen angels.
 

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I am not going to argue with you Pariahif you think that the strong delusion is now you have no understanding of revelation or what a strong delusion isand if you think the mark of the beast is a physcial chip or somthing I suggest you study the subject the what seal(mark) of God is because the mark of the beast is the oppisite it is the belief that Satan is christ. why will people take the Mark because of the great delusion that will come on them when he physically is here with his fallen angels you dont want to believe it fine your choice. But I will never stop sounding the alarm. God has put it upon my heart to do so, same as you claim for yourself, my conviction is as strong if not stronger than yours so all I can say is one of us is wrong and Im sure each of us thinks its the other but I will follow what God has lead me to do as Im sure you will also So til he shows one of us something else guess we just have to agree to disagree