Un-Christian things going on in a once-Christian country (news, etc)

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hatedbyall

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StanJ said:
Nope, never. There were more Masons than Christians in their founding fathers.
well, we can say we come closer to it than other nations

the Founding fathers were Christians for the most part, but probably not diligent ones, probably not what you would call.. put Jesus first Christians.

Jesus said there are few who make it (Mt 7, Lk 13:24)



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hatedbyall

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Samael said:
we were never a Christian country we were puritan and that was a small portion the for fathers were free mason which is more deist not Christian we have NEVER been Christian. also the non Christian things happening please the majority of you twats who say your Christian don't even fathom or comprehend the book you speak from, the non Christians things that's called progress for humanity either get on the band wagon or get off
not sure i want to respond since you call people such foul words
 

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hatedbyall said:
well, we can say we come closer to it than other nations
the Founding fathers were Christians for the most part, but probably not diligent ones, probably not what you would call.. put Jesus first Christians.
Jesus said there are few who make it (Mt 7, Lk 13:24)
Close only counts in horseshoes and grenades. It's not a matter of being close it's a matter of you either are a Christian or you aren't a Christian. Those who think they're close will be separated with all the rest of the goats when Jesus returns.
 

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Samael said:
we were never a Christian country we were puritan and that was a small portion the for fathers were free mason which is more deist not Christian we have NEVER been Christian. also the non Christian things happening please the majority of you twats who say your Christian don't even fathom or comprehend the book you speak from, the non Christians things that's called progress for humanity either get on the band wagon or get off
I have a feeling you're not going to last very long here brother or sister or whoever you are.
 

hatedbyall

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StanJ said:
Why? The Bible tells us that the Devil comes on as an angel of Light. What exactly is Christian about the Declaration of Independence?
u obviously haven't read it.

people are created equal (for one). That is God's law, something man himself would probably never come up with out if God had not intervened in human history (through Christ)

man is self-centered to the core without Jesus
 

hatedbyall

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StanJ said:
Close only counts in horseshoes and grenades. It's not a matter of being close it's a matter of you either are a Christian or you aren't a Christian. Those who think they're close will be separated with all the rest of the goats when Jesus returns.
that is not true. When one tries to be Christian but fails, he has come closer. And it matters. God will not toss him into Hell (or even reject him absolutely on a temporary basis) as long as he keeps getting up after every fall..

this kind of extremist view is why people are not attracted to Christianity. They see how Christians are and they think: Oh, no... i cannot be like that: closed-minded.. extremist.. hostile toward anyone who believes differently

and you know, they are right to not like that kind of thing. And so, they are "closer" to being Christian than.. some so called Christians


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Read this in Yoda's voice did you?..hmm.
 

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It says it all about our nation ("the times, they are a'changin) when the front-runner in both parties is a lying, corrupt, narcissist.


God help us

And God said, Let there be sanity. and gave us Cruz :)

no self-respecting female would vote for the misogynist DumbOld Grump

but sadly there are plenty of non-self-respecting ones..

Anyway.. That's what a nation gets when it accepts baby killing. It is like the fall of the Roman Empire..

but maybe, just maybe...

:mellow:
 

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hatedbyall said:
It says it all about our nation ("the times, they are a'changin) when the front-runner in both parties is a lying, corrupt, narcissist.


God help us

And God said, Let there be sanity. and gave us Cruz :)

no self-respecting female would vote for the misogynist DumbOld Grump

but sadly there are plenty of non-self-respecting ones..

Anyway.. That's what a nation gets when it accepts baby killing. It is like the fall of the Roman Empire..

but maybe, just maybe...

:mellow:
Well I guess nobody can accuse you of being color blind because apparently all you see is black and white.
 

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Samael said:
we were never a Christian country we were puritan and that was a small portion the for fathers were free mason which is more deist not Christian we have NEVER been Christian. also the non Christian things happening please the majority of you twats who say your Christian don't even fathom or comprehend the book you speak from, the non Christians things that's called progress for humanity either get on the band wagon or get off
yeh, there have been 40 presidents who were masons. That is REALLY bad since masons believe in revenge. Christians believe in the Word that says "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, I will re-pay [not you]"

big difference

That love for vengeance is what is ruining our world, what makes people unhappy.. dysfunctional.
 

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StanJ said:
Well I guess nobody can accuse you of being color blind because apparently all you see is black and white.
oh well.

someone once said the devil's favorite color is gray

all your dress suits are no doubt gray
 

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...following a Jewish carpenter...
I know that when I was a kid, back in the '50's, this country sure looked like a "Christian nation".
We even prayed in school, and had Christmas pageants that featured the Holy Family...

Of course, all of that has been changing...just a little at a time, drop by drop...like water evaporating from a glass...until the glass is nearly empty.

It seems that, the more people insist that we were "never a Christian nation", the more un-Christian things become acceptable.

We are not a Christian nation....no-fault divorce. We are not a Christian nation....abortion on demand. We are not a Christian nation...gay marriage.

And don't you dare complain about it...that wouldn't be...ummm....Christian.
 

ScaliaFan

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The Barrd said:
I know that when I was a kid, back in the '50's, this country sure looked like a "Christian nation".
We even prayed in school, and had Christmas pageants that featured the Holy Family...

Of course, all of that has been changing...just a little at a time, drop by drop...like water evaporating from a glass...until the glass is nearly empty.

It seems that, the more people insist that we were "never a Christian nation", the more un-Christian things become acceptable.

We are not a Christian nation....no-fault divorce. We are not a Christian nation....abortion on demand. We are not a Christian nation...gay marriage.

And don't you dare complain about it...that wouldn't be...ummm....Christian.
yeh, for sure. Someone told these folks.. whispered in their ear that freedom means being able to do any vile thing you can think of, including murdering children

of course we know who that being is

the one you are a fool for believing in.. yet we see his handiwork
 

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ScaliaFan said:
yeh, for sure. Someone told these folks.. whispered in their ear that freedom means being able to do any vile thing you can think of, including murdering children

of course we know who that being is

the one you are a fool for believing in.. yet we see his handiwork
The same one who whispered in their itching ears that the Lord no longer requires or expects obedience.
They see him as an angel of light...but to those who have the True Light, he is the Lord of Darkness, and will blind his victims so that they will not be able to discern light from darkness, and will easily fall for the lie. Those who know the truth recognize the Father of Lies...
Yeah, we see his handiwork. Of course, we expected to see it in the world around us. But what a shock it is to see it in our churches...
 

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The Barrd said:
The same one who whispered in their itching ears that the Lord no longer requires or expects obedience.
They see him as an angel of light...but to those who have the True Light, he is the Lord of Darkness, and will blind his victims so that they will not be able to discern light from darkness, and will easily fall for the lie. Those who know the truth recognize the Father of Lies...
Yeah, we see his handiwork. Of course, we expected to see it in the world around us. But what a shock it is to see it in our churches...
4 sure

I have been disturbed by many things in my life, but nothing is more disturbing than that. You don't expect priests to.. (fill in the blanks). Now, i have never, ever known a priest to molest a child.. @ least none that were publicly exposed, & I have been in/out of the Catholic church all my life. But I have seen priests do some SERIOUSLY uncharitable things.. treat people like scum.. weird.. just downright weird.

Anyway, i am not sure i agree w/ you about people being blinded or however u put it.. not realizing they are sold out (or about to be sold out) to the devil. I think they know all along. They make a choice.. then the next time they are tempted, they make another choice for the evil one.. and the next time.. and so maybe that is what u r talking about.. how over time they just don't even have to think about what choice they will make. They will make the choice they have made so many times b4.. b/c that is who they have become

I don't believe anyone falls into Hell not having a clue s/he was going there..

but then, who knows??
 

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some people here have a Christian spirit and some do not

that's not to say that everything that SOUNDS negative really IS negative and unchristian.. nope. But some people.. all they seem to want to do is attack others. I gues that is a psychological issue having to do with low self esteem.. you know.. got to put others down so as to raise themselves up..

boring

not to mention it backfires.. makes u look small
 

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