The Next Prophecy to Happen

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Ezekiel chapters 38,39 - A group of large armies from Russia, Iran, Iraq, Germany or France, Ethiopia, and Libya will unite to attack Israel. God will turn these armies against each other, and it will rain fire on them, and they will fall on the mountains of Israel. Details of the next prophecy to be fulfilled Ezek. chapters 38, 39These are the names given in the prophecy:Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, Ezekiel 38:3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: Ezekiel 38:4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts [of armour, even] a great company [with] bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Ezekiel 38:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: Ezekiel 38:6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: [and] many people with thee. Ezekiel 38:7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them. Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land [that is] brought back from the sword, [and is] gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. Ezekiel 38:9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee. Gog is russian leader magog is Russia. Meshech is a root word for Moscow. It will be the Russsian leader in the position that Vladmir Putin is now in.The biblical persia is Iran and Iraq together. Gomer represents Germany or France. Togarmah is east Germany.It says this is to happen in the latter years, which is the time close to the end. Now can be considered the latter years, because Israel is a nation again.Ezekiel 38:13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil? Sheba and Dedan, which are Jordan and Saudi Arabia, are going to question this army when they come toward Israel.Those names are names of people mentioned in the geneology in the bible. The lands where they lived are named after them, that is how bible scholars know what lands are being referred to . The old persian kingdom was on the land of Iran and Iraq together. Verse 38:7, shows that Russia is going to be like a guard to the armies of all of those smaller nations.Reasons why this is the next prophecy. It has not happened yet. The prophecy speaks of Israel coming back into their land from many different nations. The only time that this happened in history, is after World War 2, with Israel becoming a nation again in 1948. In the past, Israel came back into their land from only one nation, babylon. It is a future prophecy. It says in the prophecy that this would happen in the latter years or days, which is now and leading on into the future, before Jesus comes back. It is not the same as the prophecy about the Antichrist. The prophecy about the antichrist, in the book of revelation and the book of Daniel, show that Antichrist will take over the Holy Land and set up his throne in Jerusalem for the last 3 and a half years of the tribulation period, before Jesus returns. In the Ezekiel prophecy, the armies invading Israel will not take it over, but will die on the mountains of Israel before they reach Jerusalem. There is only one invasion of Israel during the tribulation period, of the book of Revelation, and it is the invasion by the Antichrist. So the Ezekiel prophecy cannot happen during the tribulation period which is the last 7 years before Jesus comes back. In the Ezekiel prophecy nations attack Israel when Israel is in control of the land and Israel dwells safely. At Armageddon, the Antichrist is in control of the land and the Jews have fled from it. The Ezekiel prophecy is not Armageddon. The Ezekiel prophecy cannot happen after the tribulation period. After the tribulation period is the Millenial reign of Christ on the Earth, ruling with the saints in glorified bodies, for a thousand years, and there is no war like the Ezekiel prophecy during that thousand years when Satan is bound and cannot deceive anyone. The Ezekiel prophecy does not happen after the thousand year reign. In Revelation, Gog and magog are mentioned, after the thousand year reign but this is just a reference to the land in which Gog and Magog lived and it is not referring to the same man Gog, in Ezekiel. [Gog and Magog are two people that lived a long time ago. The land that they lived in is called by their names.] In the Ezekiel prophecy, it shows that Israel had recently been gathered into their land and live in unwalled villages. After the millenial reign, in Revelation, people from the lands of Gog and Magog are going to attack the camp of the saints. So this cannot be the same as the Ezekiel prophecy. The saints will live in one camp, and they lived there for a thousand years already. This is different from what it says in the Ezikiel prophecy. So, the only time for the Ezekiel prophecy to happen is in the future and before the 7 year tribulation period starts. Iran is now starting to gain influence over the Shiites in Iraq. The old persian empire is Iran and Iraq together being ruled from Iran. As Iran gains more control over Iraq, it begins to look more like the old persian empire. Also Russia is allied with Iran now, and I saw on Tv that Russia has offered to enrich their uranium for them.
 

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Stone,I believe that the next prophecy to be fulfilled is event which signifies the start of the tribulation period.Dan:27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.This confirmation of a covenant (or signing of a treaty) is the event. The individual "he", I believe is the A/C, which is revealed when "he" signs the treaty.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
 

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Stone,I believe that the next prophecy to be fulfilled is event which signifies the start of the tribulation period.Dan:27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.This confirmation of a covenant (or signing of a treaty) is the event. The individual "he", I believe is the A/C, which is revealed when "he" signs the treaty.In Yehoshua,Guy Smith
The problem with thinking that the tribulation period is next, is that the Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 prophecy has not happened yet. And it must happen. The prophecy speaks of Israel coming back into their land from many people of different nations. The only time that this happened in history, is after World War 2, with Israel becoming a nation again in 1948. In the past, Israel came back into their land from only one nation, babylon. It is a future prophecy. It says in the prophecy that this would happen in the latter years, which is now and leading on into the future, before Jesus comes back. Ezekiel 38:8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. A summary of why I believe it must happen before the tribulation period:Ezekiel 39:9. The Jews are going to be burning the weapons for 7 years, after the armies fall. That prevents the Ezekiel prophecy from happening during the 7 year tribulation period. At 3.5 years into the tribulation period antichrist is going to conquier Israel and rule from Jerusalem. He will persecute the Jews and the Jews will flee out of the land. If they flee out of the land, then they cannot burn weapons for 7 years. The Ezekiel prophecy is supposed to happen after Israel is brought back from other nations (that happened after world war2) and during the latter years, Ezekiel 38:8, when Israel is dwelling safely in the land. That means the prophecy will happen before the antichrist and the 7 year tribulation begins. The Ezekiel prophecy is not armageddon. Armageddon happens when the anticrhist is ruling and the Jews are not dwelling safely but are persecuted and they are not in the land; they fled out of it. It don't happen after the millenial reign either as some say. That is not latter years and the saints did not just come from other countries; they lived in a camp for a very long time, maybe a thousand years. The Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 prophecy is the next prophecy to happen and it must happen and be over for at least 7 years before the endtime sequence can begin. The middle East is moving in the direction of the Ezekiel prophecy, but as you can see, it is no where near happening yet.I believe the last 7 years and the tribulation cannot happen until after the Ezekiel prophecy. Expect the situation in the middle East to get worse and worse until the Ezekiel prophecy happens.
 

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Israel returning as a nation for the first time in almost 2000 years already happened May 14,1948 this is called the parable of the fig tree the Gen that witness this event shall not pass before the Lord returns a Bible Gen is 40years,70 years or 120 yearsnext year will be the 60th year sense this event happened. Men (a gen.) do not live to be 120 years old these days so we are most likely within 10 years I think sooner rather than later but it can be anytime.As far as Dan 9:27 read it again it can not happen until Anti christ is here and declares himself god and if you read Rev. 9:5 and 9:10 you will see that 3 1/2 years of tribulation is shortened to 5 months for the Elects sake.We are told to set our face, or minds and attitudes against "Gog, Magog and Tubal". These people are the Russian people; however, it seems today that it is popular to buy, sell and trade with the very people God has warned us against. The "Land of Magog" in the Hebrew manuscript, is "Rosh", which is the "Chief Prince. It is from the Hebrew "Rosh" that we derive "Russia" in the English; that we see in Smith's Bible dictionary, and also Strong's Hebrew dictionary, #7218.
 

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As far as Dan 9:27 read it again it can not happen until Anti christ is here and declares himself god and if you read Rev. 9:5 and 9:10 you will see that 3 1/2 years of tribulation is shortened to 5 months for the Elects sake.
KrissI am having problems with the fact you say the tribulation will be shortenedI know Jesus says And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elects sake those days shall be shortened. The problem I am having is that this would make Danial and John false prophets. We have to have Danial's final 70th week a week of 7 years or his prophesy is false Also why would Jesus tell us he was going to shorten the tribulation period and then years later give John The Revelations and in these revelations we see the final 7 1260 days we see 42 months and times times a half a time we see the final 7 broken into two sets of 3 and a half yearsREVELATION 13:5And there was given to the beast a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and power was given to him to continue forty and two months. REVELATION 12:14And the woman was given wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wildneress, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. REVELATION 12:6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days.DANIEL 7:25He shall speak great words against the Most High, and shall wear out the saints of the Most High, and think to change times and laws -- and they shall be given into his hands until a time and times and the dividing of a time. I believe they will be a complete 70th week and Jesus is saying to us if he does not return on the appointed time man would destroy themselves. In other words If he doesent come at the end of the seventh year and waits a few more years man would destroy themselves I feel there must be a complete final week
 

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The seven years will happen just as prophisized its just the tribulation will not start untill the last five months of the 7 years as we are told in Rev.9:5 and 9:10 that Satan and his Angels are here for only five months and then Christs returns Time is not shortened only the tribulation itself is shortened the event of the tribulation is 5 months long it does not start until the 5th/6th trump. The lead up to the tribulation some of the seals (though not in order) and the fisrt four trumps are happing during this last 3 1/2 years just not the actual tribulation(the hour of temptation) until 5th/6th trump and Satan gets here.