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OK, we're all sinners, all engage in un-Christian behavior from time to time. But what i am talking about here is egregious behavior (sin). When "Christians" do the following, beware! They are telling you that you can just totally FORGET about them being Christian; we should "unfriend" them immediately

If the person says/does the following, s/he is not a Christian

(and these scriptures kick in: "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers"--"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness")



  • treats everyone well, except for spouse (or except for.. fill in the blanks person)
  • you ask a small favor of this person and he/she tells you No even though it would cost the person little or nothing to do this for you
  • equates revenge with "justice" and pays people back for every "wrong" or perceived wrong (in defiance of the Word: "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, "I will repay")
  • supports Planned Parenthood and other Godless organizations/politicians



and the list goes on..





 

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OK, we're all sinners, all engage in un-Christian behavior from time to time. But what i am talking about here is egregious behavior (sin). When "Christians" do the following, beware! They are telling you that you can just totally FORGET about them being Christian; we should "unfriend" them immediately

If the person says/does the following, s/he is not a Christian

(and these scriptures kick in: "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers"--"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness")


  • treats everyone well, except for spouse (or except for.. fill in the blanks person)
  • you ask a small favor of this person and he/she tells you No even though it would cost the person little or nothing to do this for you
  • equates revenge with "justice" and pays people back for every "wrong" or perceived wrong (in defiance of the Word: "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, "I will repay")
  • supports Planned Parenthood and other Godless organizations/politicians
and the list goes on..





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No you don't just forget about them being a chtistian. They should be rebuked, and the bible says count them not as an enemy, but don't have fellowship with them that they may br ashamed.

I also sense a hidden agenda. You mentioned that we shouldn't support planned parenthood. Is this really what you are getting at?

I might support you if it was, but not if you are trying to slip politics in with God's plan.
 

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FHII said:
I might support you if it was, but not if you are trying to slip politics in with God's plan.
are u one of those "Chritians" who thinks we have to throw our faith out the window before entering the public arena??

"If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before the Father" (Jesus)


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ScaliaFan said:
are u one of those "Chritians" who thinks we have to throw our faith out the window before entering the public arena??

"If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before the Father" (Jesus)


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I sense even stronger that you have a hidden agenda.

Did you read all of what i said? I fight hard for grace through faith. I believe in it, and i don't back away from it. Yet, the bible teaches what you do with those who are not sound in the faith, which i noted.

Regardless of the truth about grace through faith, no i don't believe in any sinful act. I'm just not so quick to condemn, lest i be proven a hypocrit.

But i also don't appreciate hidden agendas.

Here's something else to think about:
2 Timothy 2:4 KJV
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
 

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ScaliaFan said:
OK, we're all sinners, all engage in un-Christian behavior from time to time. But what i am talking about here is egregious behavior (sin). When "Christians" do the following, beware! They are telling you that you can just totally FORGET about them being Christian; we should "unfriend" them immediately
If the person says/does the following, s/he is not a Christian
(and these scriptures kick in: "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers"--"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness")

  • treats everyone well, except for spouse (or except for.. fill in the blanks person)
  • you ask a small favor of this person and he/she tells you No even though it would cost the person little or nothing to do this for you
  • equates revenge with "justice" and pays people back for every "wrong" or perceived wrong (in defiance of the Word: "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, "I will repay")
  • supports Planned Parenthood and other Godless organizations/politicians

and the list goes on..

Indeed we are all sinners. The difference is some are saved and some are not saved. Jesus said there is not one righteous person. There is not one person that has not sinned. Let's make sure we're aware of the log in your own eye before we start pointing out the specs in other people's eyes.
These are all morality issues and don't have much to do with true Christianity per se. Not everybody whose feelings are hurt are more Christian than the person who hurt their feelings. Most of the things itemized here or social issues not Christian issues.
 

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FHII said:
2 Timothy 2:4 KJV
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
you can't take one psg out of the Bible and apply it to just any old problem or concern. You can't take Scirpture out of context (without seroius consequences)

key word here: entangle

you can be involved without being entangled. If you can't, then "If your foot causes u to stumble, cut it off and cast it from you" .. applies


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Indeed we are all sinners. The difference is some are saved and some are not saved. Jesus said there is not one righteous person. There is not one person that has not sinned...
guess what?

NO ONE is saved. No one living on Earth is saved. Salvation is a process, a journey. You are either on that journey or you are not, but no human living on Earth has arrived at salvation. You can fall off that road easily through seroius sin.

The Bible supports this "belief" (truth) at every turn so you can forget throwing scripture psgs at me
 

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hatedbyall said:
you can't take one psg out of the Bible and apply it to just any old problem or concern. You can't take Scirpture out of context (without seroius consequences)

key word here: entangle

you can be involved without being entangled. If you can't, then "If your foot causes u to stumble, cut it off and cast it from you" .. applies


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I didn't take it out of context. I just listed it as something to consider. I actually follow politics and even vote. On the otherhand, i don't get bogged down or entangled with it so much that it affects my spiritual walk .
 

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ScaliaFan said:
OK, we're all sinners, all engage in un-Christian behavior from time to time. But what i am talking about here is egregious behavior (sin). When "Christians" do the following, beware! They are telling you that you can just totally FORGET about them being Christian; we should "unfriend" them immediately

If the person says/does the following, s/he is not a Christian

(and these scriptures kick in: "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers"--"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness")
  • treats everyone well, except for spouse (or except for.. fill in the blanks person)
  • you ask a small favor of this person and he/she tells you No even though it would cost the person little or nothing to do this for you
  • equates revenge with "justice" and pays people back for every "wrong" or perceived wrong (in defiance of the Word: "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, "I will repay")
  • supports Planned Parenthood and other Godless organizations/politicians

and the list goes on..
I wouldn't say that are not Christian, but we do know people by their fruits.

Just remember that there are James 5:20 type Christians. They fail on most things but do one immensely selfless deed. We need to discern properly. The only ones thrown out of church by Paul, were those in very mortal sins 1 Cor 5.
 

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hatedbyall said:
guess what?

NO ONE is saved. No one living on Earth is saved. Salvation is a process, a journey. You are either on that journey or you are not, but no human living on Earth has arrived at salvation. You can fall off that road easily through seroius sin.

The Bible supports this "belief" (truth) at every turn so you can forget throwing scripture psgs at me
Well anyone in mortal sin is clearly not saved. I agree with you though I would just add that God knows who are His. So many may have already made it, we just can't presume to know though 1 Cor 10:12.

Just as you explain falling away from mortal sin, likewise you can fall hard into Christianity with a truthful born again experience. Much like James 5:20 explains.
 

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Well anyone in mortal sin is clearly not saved. I agree with you though I would just add that God knows who are His. So many may have already made it, we just can't presume to know though 1 Cor 10:12.

Just as you explain falling away from mortal sin, likewise you can fall hard into Christianity with a truthful born again experience. Much like James 5:20 explains.
since you use the term Mortal sin, i say you are Catholic?

well, that is good for the most part. There are things giong on in the RCC that are not Christian, but i suppose that goes w/ o saying since it is made up of humans
anwyay.. forgot my point
 

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since you use the term Mortal sin, i say you are Catholic?

well, that is good for the most part. There are things giong on in the RCC that are not Christian, but i suppose that goes w/ o saying since it is made up of humans
anwyay.. forgot my point
I am not Catholic but agree with many of their teachings.
 

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hatedbyall said:
guess what?

NO ONE is saved. No one living on Earth is saved. Salvation is a process, a journey. You are either on that journey or you are not, but no human living on Earth has arrived at salvation. You can fall off that road easily through seroius sin.

The Bible supports this "belief" (truth) at every turn so you can forget throwing scripture psgs at me
True salvation IS NOT A PROCESS.

1 Cor 6:11
11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
NKJV

2 Cor 1:21-22
21 Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God,
22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
NKJV

Eph 1:11-14
11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will,
12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.
13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
NKJV

Eph 4:30
30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
NKJV
 

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ScaliaFan said:
OK, we're all sinners, all engage in un-Christian behavior from time to time. But what i am talking about here is egregious behavior (sin).
I think you mean "over-the-top" sin, of the pre-meditated variety. The kind committed by "Christians" who are convinced that the rules do not apply to them.

When "Christians" do the following, beware! They are telling you that you can just totally FORGET about them being Christian; we should "unfriend" them immediately
With this caveat:
Remember that Jesus also ate with publicans and sinners.
How do you reach someone if you refuse to talk to them?
That is why I really hate to put anyone on "ignore"....although I have, sadly, discovered that sometimes, it is in my best interest.

If the person says/does the following, s/he is not a Christian

(and these scriptures kick in: "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers"--"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness")
  • treats everyone well, except for spouse (or except for.. fill in the blanks person
I take it you do not mean that he "unfriended" this particular person? For instance, Christians do not beat their wives or abuse their children, or bully other people...

  • you ask a small favor of this person and he/she tells you No even though it would cost the person little or nothing to do this for you
    Without knowing the person's circumstances, I can't really agree, here. Maybe the guy has a huge mortgage he has to pay or something. After all, even God says "no" sometimes....


  • equates revenge with "justice" and pays people back for every "wrong" or perceived wrong (in defiance of the Word: "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, "I will repay")
    I can't argue with this one. Christians do not look for revenge.
  • supports Planned Parenthood and other Godless organizations/politicians
I would add things like no-fault divorce...Christians do not abandon their marriage, just because they argue with their spouse,they work things out.
And "gay marriage"....Christians do not support what God has called an "abomination".

and the list goes on..
I would add...a Christian does not look for "loop holes", but rather obeys God in all things without hesitation.
As the Lord did say, "If you love me, keep my commandments."
Grace is not a license to sin...






 

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FHII said:
I didn't take it out of context. I just listed it as something to consider. I actually follow politics and even vote. On the otherhand, i don't get bogged down or entangled with it so much that it affects my spiritual walk .
So, do you separate your Christianity from the rest of your life?
 

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hatedbyall said:
guess what?
NO ONE is saved. No one living on Earth is saved. Salvation is a process, a journey. You are either on that journey or you are not, but no human living on Earth has arrived at salvation. You can fall off that road easily through seroius sin.
The Bible supports this "belief" (truth) at every turn so you can forget throwing scripture psgs at me
"If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved." Roman 10:9-10

I suggest you learn the Bible before telling us what it does or doesn't say.
 

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So, do you separate your Christianity from the rest of your life?
Don't have much of a life outside of Christ. But no.... At least in the sense that i consider what the effects of my outside life are in relation to Christ.

In other words, i ask how things i do affect my walk.
 

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FHII said:
Don't have much of a life outside of Christ. But no.... At least in the sense that i consider what the effects of my outside life are in relation to Christ.

In other words, i ask how things i do affect my walk.
Maybe you didn't know...but I have been involved in the fight against abortion for over 30 years. In that time, we have saved several lives...but we are still losing the war.

Again, I can't understand how "Christians" can quietly accept things like "no-fault divorce", or "abortion on demand" or "gay marriage".

Yeah, yeah, yeah...I know..."secular nation," and all that.
Still, some things are universal. There is something horribly wrong with a society that allows these things, whether it is a "Christian" society or not.
 
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FHII said:
OK, we're all sinners, all engage in un-Christian behavior from time to time. But what i am talking about here is egregious behavior (sin). When "Christians" do the following, beware! They are telling you that you can just totally FORGET about them being Christian; we should "unfriend" them immediately

If the person says/does the following, s/he is not a Christian

(and these scriptures kick in: "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers"--"Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness")


  • treats everyone well, except for spouse (or except for.. fill in the blanks person)
  • you ask a small favor of this person and he/she tells you No even though it would cost the person little or nothing to do this for you
  • equates revenge with "justice" and pays people back for every "wrong" or perceived wrong (in defiance of the Word: "Vengeance is Mine, saith the Lord, "I will repay")
  • supports Planned Parenthood and other Godless organizations/politicians
and the list goes on..





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No you don't just forget about them being a chtistian. They should be rebuked, and the bible says count them not as an enemy, but don't have fellowship with them that they may br ashamed.

I also sense a hidden agenda. You mentioned that we shouldn't support planned parenthood. Is this really what you are getting at?

I might support you if it was, but not if you are trying to slip politics in with God's plan.
politics touches everything and everyone

it is absurd to say it can be seperated from other things.. and that good peple cannot get involved with it. Indeed, this is how we go to where we are.. good peple so called doing nothing.. letting the corruption go.. Good peple dont seem to run for office, just the ambitious... those who love power and prestige and $$